Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN

well the funniest part is this person using fake punjabi names like
kapoor, juneja and sood to be anti-punjabi. lol.
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "sdrkirti" <sdrkirti@...> wrote:
>
> Respectable kalsi ji
>
> I bet, he will never come forward to attend any such confidence.
Very
> recently, he as Satpaul khurana when challenged, ran away from
ancient
> astrology group and never came back. This guy is burning his night
> oil to project himself as the only intelligent Lal kitabist in the
> world nd prove others as big fools by using fake IDs of Trivedi,
> vashishta, Tyagi, Khurana, Raheja, juneja, miglani, Gill and dozens
> more on the internet. His anti Punjabi feeling is also an open
secret,
> he with his various avtatars wont miss any chance to let the punjabi
> LK scholars down. for your eyes only I am presenting some of other
> avatars of "Guru" Bhooahan Priya:
>
> (1)Dharamveer dahiya
> (2)Pardeep Kapoor
> (3)AmIt sood
> (4)Ranbir Tokas
> (5)Narendra Juneja
> (6)Roopak Rastogi
>
> In spite of everything he is still not stopping as it is right said
> that old habits die hard. His avatars are doing their work of
fooling
> innocent public in full swing. Even today (05/11/2008) he raised a
> question as respected Gill saheb and answered as guru Vatun ji (khud
> hi guru khud hi chela) Now expect some mails of Wah-Wahi from his
> other Avatars in the evening, the same old routine-bravo!!!!!!!!.
What
> a way to prove your point. He declared Kheti-baadi ka sazo saman
> (equipments) as venus- waah ji waah. Agriculrual equipments mostly
> made of iron belongs to Venus? God bless this "SUPER LITERATE"
scholar
> who always label others as semi-literates.
>
> Have a nice day
> Dr. Kirti Sharma
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Shivdev Kalsi"
> <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote:
> >
> > Respected Members,
> >
> > It is "Aape Guru Chela". mean Me is Guru and Me is Follower. It is
> amazing,
> > a person who donot know the basic script of the Lalkitab, is
writing
> > treatise on it and telling others about the history of this
book.It
> is like
> > a person like me who donot know Sanskrit and try to bring my
> theories about
> > the Hora shastra and declaring that shastra wrong.
> >
> > I Invite Mr. Bhoosan Priya and his Avtars to come in a joint
conference
> > about Lalkitab. and discuss it there in person. He can fixup the
> venue and I
> > request Prabhakar ji,Nirmal ji, Kondal Ji and others to attend
that
> > conference.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:26 PM, mts3434 <mts3434@> wrote:
> >
> > > Members,
> > >
> > > Pt.Luxmi Rattan Shukla jee kitna sahi likha ki:-
> > >
> > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai, aur
ye
> logon
> > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in
logon
> ka 5
> > > point agenda hai:
> > >
> > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko bhramit
karna,
> > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki bat
ko
> galat
> > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur par
project
> > > karna.
> > >
> > > jab yeh log apni koshish mein kamyaab nahi ho rahe theiy tab in
> logo ne
> > > apna ek group banaya aur usko chalane ke liye naqli naam se
> (ids)khud hee
> > > member ban gaye aur khud hee swal jawab dene lag gaye aur woh
bhee
> > > manghadant jiska ki , group jo LAL KITAB ke naam par thaa aur
> jawab/swal
> > > ka LAL KITAB ke sathh tallouq kum hee hua karta thaa, genuine
> members bhee
> > > usko sahi maan baithey aur unko kitna fayda panhuncha ya nuksan
> iska koi
> > > vivran nahi hai.agar yeh log LAL KITAB ke naam par group na
banatey to
> > > shayaad LAL KITAB ke premi inke member nahi bante aur yeh unko
> gumrah nahi
> > > kar patey.
> > >
> > > BURAI JAB BHEE BURAI KE ROOP MEIN SAHMNE AYEGI USKO PEHCHANANA
> ASAAN HOTA
> > > HAI,ISS LIYE BURAI HAMESHA HEE ACHHAI KA MUKHOUTA AURH KAR
SAHMNE
> AATEE
> > > HAI, JIS SE USKO PEHCHANANA KATHIN HOTA HAI.ISS LIYE *RAVAN *KO
> BHEE SADHU
> > > KA VESH DHARAN KARNA PADA JIS SE *SITA* JEE BHEE DHOKHA KHA
GAYEE.
> > >
> > > Issi asool par woh log bhee chal rahe hain, lekin woh log (ek
ya ek se
> > > zyada)yeh bhul gaye ki akhir mein VIJAY sirf sachai ki hoti
hai. iski
> > > udharan ek nahi hazaron mil jayengi. iss liye mera unn logo se
> nimrata sahit
> > > nivedan hai ki woh sachai ka sath dein na ki galat hathon mein
> apne aap ko
> > > sounpe. apne gyan ka (LAL KITAB ka jitna gyan hai ) sahi istemal
> kar ke
> > > logo ka aur khud ka bhala karrein.
> > >
> > > Mahajan
> > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Luxmi Rattan Shukla
> > > <luxmirattanshukla@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Respected Mudit ji, apne bilkul sahi kaha hai aur main apse
> poori tarah
> > > se sehmat hoon, ek badi prasiddh kahawat hai ki jab baaj khamosh
> ho jatey
> > > hain tab totey shor machaney lag jatey hai. Ap sab purane log
pata
> nahi kyon
> > > gehri nidraa min leen ho gaye hain. 2003 se lekar 2005 tak kya
badhiya
> > > discussion huya karti thi old group mein. Ap, Bhatia jee,
lalkitbi
> jee,
> > > prabhakar jee, kulbeer ji, Iqbal jee, Anshev jee etc. kitni
uttam
> batein
> > > bataya kartey the. Kitni khul kar debate huya karti thi ek-ek
> point par.
> > > Pata nahi kyon ap sab log chup ho gaye aur doosrey logon ne
darzan
> darzan
> > > nakli naam rakh kar budhu banane ka silsila shuru kar diya.
tabhi se
> > > standard ki discussion honi band ho gayi hai. Ab to sab log apni
> apni dafli
> > > aur apna apna raag alap rahe hain.
> > > >
> > > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai, aur
> ye logon
> > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in
logon
> ka 5
> > > point agenda hai:
> > > >
> > > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko bhramit
karna,
> > > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki
bat
> ko galat
> > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur par
> project
> > > karna.
> > > >
> > > > Apke sahit sabhi purane khiladiyon se anurodh hai ki neend se
> jagiye aur
> > > jo log is vidya ko prapat karna chahte hain unki sahayta ke liye
> aage ayiye.
> > > >
> > > > With respect
> > > > Pt. Lumxi Rattan Shukla
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Umesh Sharma mudit982001@ wrote:
> > > > From: Umesh Sharma mudit982001@
> > > > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON SE
> > > SAWDHAN
> > > > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 4:56 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Members,
> > > > No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
> > > > Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not participate in
> group, we
> > > are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are
seeing. My
> > > suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give answer
to
> those
> > > peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all go for make
> much more
> > > to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and share
the
> knowledge.
> > > An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
> > > > I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge of
> English plz
> > > do not go for my errors.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > >
> >
>
> Regards
> > > >
> > >
> > > Umesh Sharma
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82"
> <jitinsyal82@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt.
> ashant, that
> > > > > lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but
was "given" by
> > > > > someone during their service years in army.
> > > > >
> > > > > even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji
himself,
> Pt. ji
> > > > > told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious
who said
> > > > > what!!)
> > > > >
> > > > > even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT
Pt. ji
> > > > > could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met
prabhakar
> ji who
> > > > > assured me that i was right.
> > > > >
> > > > > i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people
to
> mislead
> > > > > students like me, and i think you all would agree that one
> needs to
> > > > > know the true source of something before following it.
> > > > >
> > > > > it would be great if this group could organise camps where
> > > > > a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> > > > > b.) share knowledge.
> > > > > c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the
origin and
> > > > > writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where
> credit is
> > > > > due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to
Pt. ji.
> > > > >
> > > > > AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am
> pretty sure
> > > > > that 'what goes around comes around'.
> > > > >
> > > > > yours respectfuly
> > > > > jitin syal.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Baljeet Pandher
> > > > > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake
> identities by
> > > > > a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI
LAL
> KITAB
> > > > > KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA
MILA TO
> > > > > LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these
> who use
> > > > > fake mail names. people like us who think that these people
> are very
> > > > > great people and we believe what they said is correct. This
is
> > > > > cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant
> believe
> > > > > that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > II was member of their group and found that these poeple
are
> > > > > running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology
> always.
> > > > > Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI
> SAID THIS,
> > > > > OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata
> chal gaya
> > > > > tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar
apni
> > > > > dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH
KYA
> BAAT
> > > > > HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar
Pundit Roop
> > > > > chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana
ban kar
> > > > > Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul
ye hi
> > > > > kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab
ko
> pundit
> > > > > roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with
his
> tail
> > > > > in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to
contradict that
> > > > > means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely
corrct. I
> also
> > > > > note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it
and
> > > > > always try to prove it wrong.
> > > > > > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan
ka bhi
> > > > > shikar hai.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apka abhari
> > > > > > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > > > > > From: Raj hdincp@
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
> WALON SE
> > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Cc: hdincp@
> > > > > > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread
I was
> > > > > just I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to
> people
> > > > > like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake
group and
> > > > > people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has
got to
> > > > > mislead people. I think the moderators should call and
check the
> > > > > people who join this group
> > > > > > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold
> enough to
> > > > > give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping
> people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will be happy of any help in further development of the
> lal Kitab
> > > > > and Vedic astrology.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every
> experience in
> > > > > which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and
then you
> > > > > destroy yourself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@
yahoo.co. in>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON SE
> > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > > > > > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things
> on right
> > > > > track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps
will not
> > > > > only help the human kind but will also help to demask many
fake
> > > > > people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud
> appreciate
> > > > > ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in
> practicality. ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON SE
> > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > > > > > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee
> thee jo
> > > > > ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki
> hum logo
> > > > > ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke
> naam par
> > > > > logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > > > > > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss
group ka
> > > > > naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids
bana
> > > > > rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur
khud hee
> > > > > uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki
> tarif kar
> > > > > deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> > > > > > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri
> kafi saari
> > > > > mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss
> tarah se
> > > > > likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar
> nahi likh
> > > > > rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh
galat kar
> > > > > rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar
chale to
> > > > > achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal
> raha hai.
> > > > > > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se
> (shayad)woh iss
> > > > > group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay
iss
> group
> > > > > mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein
bhee
> chala
> > > > > jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir
unki
> > > > > dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee
ek baat
> > > > > hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal
sakte
> > > > > kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur
> hamesha
> > > > > se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > > > > > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh
tp wohi
> > > > > jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee
> unko yeh
> > > > > chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par
> debate karte
> > > > > ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee
hota. Mere
> > > > > baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat
karein balki
> > > > > LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo
> ka bhala
> > > > > hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO
MAZMEWALE KA
> > > > > APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB
> DETA HAI
> > > > > USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE
HOTE HAIN
> > > > > TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali
bajati
> > > > > hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki
haan mein
> > > > > haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > > > > > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se
> kisi bhee
> > > > > tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > > > > > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > > > > > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh mail
> dekhe to
> > > > > mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki
> kyon na
> > > > > hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo
ka
> bhala
> > > > > karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp
> lagaya kare
> > > > > aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee
bhala hoga
> > > > > aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla
camp unke
> > > > > hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
> > > > > jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > > > > > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya
> woh bhee
> > > > > jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye
> (unke India
> > > > > aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho sake
to apna
> > > > > progrram pehle bata dein.
> > > > > > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA.
SAB
> MEMBERS
> > > > > ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE
KI YEH
> > > > > GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI.
YEH
> GROUP
> > > > > LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > > > > > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki
> hum sahi
> > > > > raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein
kyonki yehi
> > > > > LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > > > > > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton
se thes
> > > > > pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi
laga woh
> > > > > zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB SE
MAFI
> > > > > CHAHTA HOON KUCHH KADWA BHEE LIKHA HOGA.
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> > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,
> > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)
> > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)
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