Monday, November 10, 2008

Re: [astrostudents] Re: query

Dear Friends,
In my chart , these three planets are in 8th house.
In my wife's chart these there planets along with Mars
are in 4th house.
I have a Son (elder ) and daughter (younger)
After the birth of the Son , I started having problem with
my blood pressure.
After the birth of the daughter , my wife also started having
ill health , which ultimately responsible of her present week physic.
Lal Kitab says:
" Estri kisi bhi na kisi tarah se barbaad ya beghar ho jaye ya sharir ke 
sadmon se dukhi hogi". 
 There was only prosperity in the family except ill health.
I am sharing my personal experience.(If required birth particulars
can be given)
G.K.GOEL
Ph: 09350311433
Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR
NEW DELHI-110 076
INDIA



From: Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@yahoo.com>
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2008 1:06:11 PM
Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: query

Respected Umesh Bhai
Sa'adar Pranaam.

Only a person of your high caliber can give such an extraordinary response. This reiterate my belief that Lal Kitab can be learned more efficiently from the life rather than dull text. You are one of our veterans in Lal kitab whos practical experience is second to none, As such, who else could have given such a brilliant answer than your good-self. Please accept my congratulations and salutation.

Kisi ne vaise hi to nahi kaha na ki "Oonth chahey baitha huya hi kyon na ho - gadhey se phir bhi ooncha hi rehta hai. I would like to see more and more such thoughtful postings from your goodself in the future too. Kindly keep us students blessed.

Respectfully
Yograj Prabhakar


--- On Mon, 10/11/08, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: query
To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 1:07 AM

Dear Jatin

I think you are not correct.

       Because Book Says

  1. Ab Budh ka khali chakar Surya ki sahayta lekar  Shukar ko barbad karega.
  2.  Aurat (Shukar) ke teve main tino grah ekathe kisi bhi ghar main hon aur Ladka(Ketu part of Shukar) paida hone par aur Mard ( Shukar) ke teve main tino grah ekathe kisi bhi ghar main hon aur Ladaki (Budh) ke paida hone par " Estri kisi bhi na kisi tarah se barbaad ya beghar ho jaye ya sharir ke sadmon se dukhi hogi".

Yahan sirf Shukar par hi gaj gir rahi hey Budh par nahin.

 

Mashnoi Grah

Esmain koi shak nahi hey ki Budh+Shukar= Surya, Surya+Shukar= Jupiter, Surya +Budh = Mangal Nek hey

Par brother en mashnoi grahon ka concept bilkul alagh hey. Lalkitab ke mutabik Suraj ki ashiayaon main Sehat ka kahin bhi jikar nahi hey uske liye Chandar ko mana hey lekin Mashnoi Suraj Sehat ka swami hey. Esliye Jab bhi jatak ki sehat mandi ho to mashnoi surya ka bhi sahara liya ja sakta hey. Esi parkar anya mashnoi grahon ka vivechan kiya ja sakta hey.

 

Surya + Shukar= Khali Hwai Brihspat= Santan ki paidaish ka    malik= ketu 

Surya+budh=Magal Nek= santaan ko jivit rakhane ka swami= Ketu ( Book Says- Ab Girhasthi halat ka faisla Ketu par hoga)

Budh+Shukar= Surya= Sehat ka swami = Surya es yog main pahley se hi hey=( Book says- Estri dhan aur Sharir ke sadmaon se dukhi hogi)

Vese Prabhakar ji ne jo baat kahi hey usko aap aam jindgi main jod kar dekhaingey to aapko unki kahi baat ekdum samajh main aa jayegi. Es combination main budh dono ka mitar hey aur vah jyada takatwar Suraj ka sath de raha hey kyonki Budh bhi Suraj se takat lekar takatwar hona chahta hey kyonki uski takat Shukar se kam hey-

Humari aam jindgi main bhi to yehi sab ho raha hey. Har aadmi power ke pichey bhag raha hey. Ye ek prakrtik cheez hai.

Chota munh aur badi baat lagey to khashma karain. Jo muze samajh aaya vah aapse share kiya. Galti to kisio se bhi ho sakati hey main uska Aapvaad nahin.

                                                                       Thanks to all

                                                      Regards

                                                       Umesh Sharma

 

                                             


 

--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@ ....> wrote:
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> respected prabhakar ji in regards to what you explained below i would
> like to clarify something.you have mentioned that mercury will take
> sun's side and would destroy venus(wife), but isn't it true that
> sun+venus+mercury destroys mercury(daughters, sisters etc.)? so that
> would mean that sun instead of taking out it's enemity on venus it
> would destroy mercury.
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> please clarify this for me as i am bit lost due to my limited
> knowledge and understanding.
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> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Yograj Prabhakar
> yr_prabhakar@ wrote:
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> > Dear Jatin
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> > I would like to contribute my two cents In the present discussion
> of Sun+Mer+Ven combination, There are three planets involved namely
> sun, Mercury and Venus.  Everybody knows that under this trio
> Mercury will join the Sun and they both will harm Venus. But the
> question is why Mercury prefers to go with Sun to harm Venus instad
> of being later's friend? For that, we have to see the points table
> under the Budh ka Bhed (secret of Mercury). Under this table, points
> allocated for the planets in question are, Sun -  9, Venus - 7 and
> Mercury - 4. We are well aware that Mercury has a nature/habit of
> Ganga Gaye Ganga Ram, Yanmuna Gaye Yamuna dass, This very
> Characteristic of Mercury indicates how clever this eunuch planet is.
> Since Sun is more powerful than Venus, consequently the clever
> Mercury decides to go with 9 point strong sun instead of 7 point
> strong Venus.
> >
> > The concept of Masnooyi or artificial planets is a simple method
> devised by Pundit ji to know the true nature of a planet. The enigma
> of divisions,sub- divisions and sub-sub-devisions invented by some of
> our learned matesis nothing but a futile and lumbering arithmetcal
> excercise. You can probably "make" all the 9 planets from a single
> planet or a combination by using this bizarre process (isnt if
> funny?).
> >
> > Please remember, that simplicity and candor is the soul of this
> great scripture, so dont get confused and keep it simple and
> straightforward. But, if you too believe in the above mentioned "make
> and break" division, sub-division and sub-sub-division juggernaut -
> God bless you.
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> > Have a nice day
> > Yograj Prabhakar
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> > --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@ wrote:
> > From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@
> > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] query
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 3:47 PM
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> > Dear Jatin Ji,
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> > In my opinion, This is soup made by few of fellow friends in which
> you
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> > are searching the too much but find nothing. First of all we have to
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> > follow the basic rules of the system. Masnooyi is one of the rule of
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> > the system. The rule for sun as far as I remember is that
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> > Sun suppress the planet who is posited with him. In case of three
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> > planets if one of the planet is friend and other is enemy of sun,
> then
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> > Sun will try to destroy his friend or transfer the bad efect on his
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> > Now coming to Masnooyi.Some of friends made algebra of this concept
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> > try to solve it mathemetically by putting so many notions that they
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> > themselves stuck themselves in this algebra..I term them a Postmortem
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> > astrologers who try to justify any event by hook and crook.
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> > Masnuyi have different type of effect as compare to Pakka Planet.
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> > Masnuyi is the concept used for the purpose of upaya. as far as me
> is
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> > concerned I am not in favour of this algebric justification system.
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> > Dear Jatin, if one try to keep focus on "what is written in the
> book" confusion will not touch him.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Nirmal
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> > On 11/8/08, Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > another combination can make out from sun+mer+venus ie sun+venus
> is JUPITER
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> > > tht becomes jupiter & mercury ithink so the concept is confusing
> all learned
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> > > members
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> > > can any one solve ths query whether SUN+MERC+VENUS is sun & sun
> or any other
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> > > combination can be made i dnt know
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> > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> > > From: Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com>
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> > > Subject: [astrostudents] query
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