Respected Bhatia Sahib,
The game you have mentioned is not a new one for me, many people knew
it for a long long time. It was September 18th, 2004 when one of the
senior most Lal Kitab scholar Pt. Umesh Sharma ji organized a Seminar
on Lal Kitab at New Delhi In which Prof Upadhaye too participated
incognito. The very next morning two messages appeared expressing
views regarding the above-mentioned seminar on the internet. One was from Madam Bhushan Priya and another was from Mr. Bhuvan Vashishta. I along with Kulbir Singh Bains was at Pt. Umesh Sharma's residence at that time. Previously, we used to exchange mails with Bhuvan Vashishta, so we requested him to attend the seminar and meet us. We were all taken aback as to why Bhuvan Vashishta preferred to remain hidden. We watched the video clippings of the program again and again to find out who actually Mr. Bhuvan Vashishta and Madam Bhushan Priya were. We checked each female who attended the function but could not find "her" (because by then we all knew "him" as "her). We checked each one of the young men who attended the seminar, but were unable to find any Bhuvan Vashishta among the participants. But we could smell the rat and suspected that some hanky-panky was certainly going on. Actually, no person with those names ever participated in the function. Anyways,the information about this Bhuvan Vashishta's ID was conveyed to our senior most American Indian scholar by PSU's one bespectacled Lieutenant many years ago. And years later,one of our Canadian forum members forwarded me a mail of a lady who addressed PSU by his actual male name clearing any doubt whatsoever about his tactics.
A few years back he also entered our group on a conjured name and
tried to disrupt the proceedings with his clumsy and half baked
rationales. He even provided a wrong telephone number. Once we tried
to inquired about his actual identity, he not only provided the wrong
contact numbers but later he simply ran away. He started his own group
after a few days of leaving our forum. His real game started from
there only. He made more than 2 dozen fake IDs and started fooling the
innocent LK followers. He never forget to announce the Bithday of his
group and never forget to boast about the "achievements"
dozens of groups Having members in thousands but they never used such
gauche methods. What a way to "achieve", KHUD HI GURU - KHUD HI CHELA?
I wonder how many genuine (real) people actually are there in his group?
He is trying to prove himself as the GRAND-MASTER of Lal Kitab, I have
no objection to that. But what are his credentials? He tells all the
remedies from one Dalda book by Late BD Dhanwantri. But surprisingly,
this book never appeared in his list of "suggested readings list" for
the new comers? Why? Is he afraid that his reality will be known to
others? Discuss any remedy with him privately, he will instantly
announce through his CHELAS (fake IDs) that this remedy was the
creation of our GURU JI. I can provide proofs of this claim, if
required.
He is trying to project himself as the "greatest" Lal kitabist ever
born, he even named his groups in the name of Lal Kitab. But I never
saw him doing the Tewa Darustee, he says that he is using the
Chalit/bhav Spashat chart instead. 'Tewa Darustee' and 'Ilm Qyafa' are the two most important ingredients in Lal kitab astrology, but he never cared about these aspects. Perhaps no one ever taught him these
points. Most of the veteran LK astrologers especially Shri Umesh
sharma ji, your good-self, MS Kondal, Finn Wandahl and Rajiv Khattar never proceed further without a proper darustee of a chart. And to his credit, Shri Umesh Sharma ji is far FAR ahead of everyone in this matter.
He even accused me and your good-self of using fake ID's. When Mr. MS
Kondal joined Punit's group and start writing, he spread the rumour
that MS Kondal is nothing but Prabhakar's shadow handle. About one year back, he also cried foul when I analysed a chart of a female and the native replied to almost all of my questions in affirmative I asked from her for Tewa Darustee purpose. But when I I told about 500 Pound Sterling Demand draft sent by her to me to one of his "then" close associates, he was clueless as to what he should do now. I know that he raised such issues only to hide his own mischief. He will not
desist from such misadventures in the future also because old habits
die hard.
His other prominent habit is to hijack the subject matter of other
forums. Perhaps he is unable to conceive any original thoughts in his
old age. Since we are discussing Dharmi Tewa - he did not waste a
moment to grab it, this time his latest Avtar Narendra Juneja did
this. He is doing this not to add somethinbg positive in it, but to
prove that everybody else is a fool and only he is the wisest man on
this planet. He is trying his level best to prove wrong whatever has
been said about Dharmi Tewa, and his each fake Id is burning their mid-night oil in the process. But those old school followers who are
associated with Lal Kitab by heart and soul will never listen to him,
yes a few innocent new comers might be misguided by them - but for how
long?
His one point agenda is to prove all Old school followers wrong. I
have no objection if it is limited to the individuals only, but in the
backdrop he is trying to defame Pundit Roop Chand Joshi and Lal Kitab.
One of his shadows (Satpal Khurana) even raised questions on the very
authorship of Lal Kitab in another astro forum, No true follower of
Lal Kitab can ever tolerate this type of nonsense.
I suffered a brutal onslaught from him when his shadow Id's criticized
my book (LK-1941 Transliterated) in the cheapest possible ways under a
well planned strategy. He also declared that time that he was trying to "show me the mirror". I saw myself in that mirror carefully - I was
very much present there, nice and stronger than ever, because I was a
real entity not a shadow. But I know that he will not be able to see
more than a big dark spot while seeing "our mirror".
I have not used words like "with heavy heart" purposely as your
good-self has used in your post, because I am a fearless guy and have
no regret over whatever I have expressed.
Respectfully
Yograj Prabhakar
--- In astrostudents@
<rajinderbhatia2002
>
> Friends,
> With a heavy heart, I am writing the following. I have resisted this
for many years but now that the cat is out of the bag, I want to bring
out some facts. My apologies in advance, this is a lengthy Email and
the subject matter is quite unpleasant.
>
> Prof Suresh Upadhyay (PSU for short), is one the foremost scholars
of Lal Kitab astrology. He retired as a professor of
linguistics/
Shukla (Lalkitabee)
extremely highly of PSU's devotion to Lal Kitab. Let me state here
that Pt Shukla is not easily impressed by anyone; so this is a great
testimonial to Prof Upadhyay's ability. Of all the people that I know,
however, only three people have met PSU in person – Pt Shukla and
others being PSU's former students; one of them is a member of various
Lal Kitab forums. Other than that, none of the Lal Kitab devotees that
I know of has ever seen him as he refuses/avoids to meet anyone from
any of the forums. So we have to depend on Pt Shukla's testimonial.
There is no question in my mind about PSU's deep study of Lal Kitab.
He works tirelessly and provides remedial measures free of cost. Some of
> these are Lal Kitab based, others are mostly folk remedies
collected from here and there and many are questionable and
controversial. Yet all these are being dispensed by him under the name
of, Lal Kitab (as if these were solely Lal Kitab remedies.) To his
credit, he is quite diligent about this service. That is one aspect of
his personality – a knowledgeable and compassionate person who perhaps
spends his entire day being on the net, juggling between various roles
concerning forum-related activities.
>
> However, there is another aspect of PSU's personality, a very sad
one, a painful subject to talk about but it has to be brought out to
set the record straight. Right from the start of Lal Kitab Yahoo
groups, he has always operated with multiple user-ids; has always
acted as "good-guy" via some user-ids and as "bad-guy" via others; has
always employed stealth and surreptitious methods with the ultimate
goal of gaining an upper hand over everyone else when it comes to any
Lal Kitab discussion, thus boosting his ego. Prof Suresh Upadhyay is
none other than Pt Madam Bhushan Priya (a self assumed name in which
he, very surprisingly, introduced himself as a woman, a "mother" and a
novice trying to learn Lal Kitab.) Within a couple of months, Prof
Upadhyay disappeared from the then-forum and this "new" woman became a
Lal Kitab "expert" so much so that s/he started his/her own Lal Kitab
group on Yahoo. With this came the "master
> stroke" – he also started a Lal Kitab "Discussion Group" where he
became the great Gurujee with numerous (imaginary) disciples studying
Lal Kitab under his tutelage. These "disciples" were all fake user-ids
manufactured by PSU as needed – the number of such fake chelas is
unknown.
>
> In his forum, he has always been very careful to censor any
dissenting opinion and delete Emails that question his tactics. In the
process, many have been banned who were writing things that were
inconvenient to PSU. Yet he unabashedly accepted mails from a few
misguided and immature individuals who were openly taking pot shots at
some others. Even Lal Kitab1941 (Gutka) transliterated by Sh Yograj
was not spared. On the one hand PSU lauded the attempt and on the
other hand, he let the same malicious people splash mud at the
wonderful book and the people associated with it. Topics that were/are
being discussed in AstroStudents forum were (and are) regularly
hijacked to the great Gurujee's forum; even irrelevant non-topics from
some pea-brained individuals were published as long as they splashed
mud at some particular individuals, yours truly included. PSU really
stooped low! At times PSU acted extremely abrasive, while at others he
acted as a naive
> person with the express intent of be-fooling others. He has used
circular logic, ignored the basic point of an inconvenient discussion
and has never for once, conceded that he ever made a mistake. One
example: Steel ring as a remedial measure suggested in Mercury 12 -
through his illogical logic he has always maintained that the ring has
to be open-ended and that is what he prescribes because once he
has "pronounced" that, he won't rectify his mistake. This is despite
the fact that I tried to correct him numerous times on this particular
topic, sharing with one and all what Pt Rup Chand jee had to say about
this remedial measure. He would have none of it – he firmly believes
that he knows more than the originator of the system! Many of us have
known about PSU's strange
word about it. As a moderator at another Lal Kitab group, I used to
receive emails about this "fake id" business quite
> regularly but out of respect and decency towards a senior person
and a former educator, I decided to reject/delete/
does not matter, if that is how he gets his kicks - let it be. But
repeatedly, he has crossed the limit of what is tolerable. On all
possible occasions, he has, through his various fake ids, tried to
blow the trumpet of Pt Krishan Ashant's blatant lies about Pt Rup
Chand jee and as recently as a few weeks ago, he called Pt Jee a
mere "scribe.
low-class and vulgar – these are the politest words I can use. (When I
say 'he' I mean one of his user-ids, his creation, his make-believe
world.) Not only that, he even gloated in the recent past that there
is no material ever written by Pt Rup Chand jee post-1952 that is in
his son's (Pt Som Dutt jee's) or anyone else's possession and that if
there is any such Lal Kitab related material, it must be "brought to
> Aligarh" "for authentication.
get off your imaginary high horse. Your "virtual disciples" and the
vaporous "Aligarh Group" will decide the authenticity of Lal Kitab?
Get a life! Many seniors have laughed at this suggestion while others
have pitied the so-called Aligarh Group's "intellect."
>
> Although a scholar, PSU has been displaying a severe psychological
aberration. He wants to be known and recognized as the high priest of
Lal Kitab and lives in a fantasy world where he visualizes himself
sitting at a high pedestal with numerous of his disciples standing
around with bowed heads and folded hands, awaiting
- "The Oracle has spake." Why did he have to "change" his persona into
a woman, Pt Bhushan Priya, who by "her" own admission, (also) taught
at IIT, and had the same credentials as Prof Upadhyay, "She" went to a
conference at IIT, Kharagpur as advertised in "her" "Discussion Group"
(Little known to "her" that we have a copy of the names of invited
guests and those who attended – "Priya" was NOT one of them, Prof
Upadhyay was.) A liar always gets caught in his/her own web. As Priya,
"she" also said, while writing to a woman, "... as a mother myself I
know your feelings..." Why all this deceit and
> that too in the name of Lal Kitab? Don't you have any qualms about it?
>
> To express his opinion and to spread the word, Prof Upadhyay would
have earned a lot more respect had he started his own Lal Kitab blog.
He didn't have to have a "spokesperson" in "Varun Trivedi" who, it
seems, had nothing to do all day long except to wait for the great
Gurujee to issue a farmaan or issue clarification or explanation –
this chela knew everything! (Even now this "maanas chela" is
explaining and writing and fielding questions even though the cat is
out of the bag; thanks to Sh Ratan jee.)
>
> I know that I am not setting a good example for our new members and
I know numerous seniors will be pained to read this. But I can't
tolerate Prof Upadhyay continually and knowingly spreading lies
and misinformation about Lal Kitab and Pt Rup Chand Jee. I have
expressed to him in the past internet discussions and will do so
again, that his methodology of dispensing Lal Kitab Remedies Forum is
also patently WRONG. He never ever verifies the correctness of a
horoscope - his remedial measures are as if they came from a ready
reckoner that he has compiled. Per Mr. Finn Wandahl, a scholar of
Vedic astrology from Denmark (and fortunately a good friend) "A
horoscope is always incorrect unless verified." [You have seen Emails
from him from time to time. He was trained under some of the greatest
astrologers of India including Prof B V Raman and he has spent
numerous years studying Nadi and Bhrigu methods of astrology;
currently Lal Kitab is his big
> passion. He is a one of Europe's premier professional astrologers.
Mr. Wandahl
> is among the few who live by the golden rule of Lal Kitab - `VERIFY
BEFORE YOU SPECIFY'.) Many of us, if we can't verify the
correctness/
it. We can't act like quacks who must inject something into a patient
whether they are able to diagnose the problem or not. Prof Upadhyay
has chosen to ignore this ethical responsibility. The prescriber of a
(possibly wrong) remedial measure is committing a sin.
>
> In the end, I do pray to Almighty to put Prof Upadhyay on the right
path. He is a learned person and should desist from such unbecoming
activities. It really pains me to write such a long Email criticizing
him but the truth has to be told and has to triumph.
>
> My apologies for such ramblings.
>
> Rajinder Bhatia
>
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