Friday, June 27, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: One More Great Lal Kitabi of his time.

Dear Sir,
I am in the field of HOSIERY for the last 10 years and deal mainly with LUDHIANA people , if just u can give me any hint like name/cast/time of migration of the person i will try to locate the person and can get all the details from him/her

thanks
VINAY

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Thursday, June 26, 2008

[astrostudents] Beware of Priya ji and their lalkitab_remedies group..

Dear all Group members of lalkitab group, laalkitab group,
astrostudents, lalkitab

astrology:

Plz read this important message about lalkitab_remedies group.

plz read the mail first and then think.

i have been here for 3 year.

and its based on my research and will help you and even can save you
life too.

1) The owner of lalkitab_remedies group is Bhooshanpriya.

The first thing is that he bhooshanpriya (yes if u think that he is a
lady as many people

think like that coz he writes at the end priya(the most common name
of girls) ) was in

lalkitab group firstly. He was practising lalkitab with wrong rules
and his own wrong and

faulty new methodologies. when the other Gurujans of lalkitab group
requested him to stop

acting like that then he left the group and created his own group.

2) He has created his own group. that's good. but what is worst that
he do not allow any

other moderator or learned person to post message or to correct his
mistakes in his group.

this results into lot of wrong and faulty remedies and wrong and
faulty methodlogies. the

reason for this is that nobody is there to check him or keep an eye
over him.

3) The actual rule of lalkitab for checking the horo or telling
remedies is that first we

check that which planet is malefic or banefic then a learned
astrologer ask some questions.

the answers of that question reveals the character or nature of
planet. the whole thing

normally take 15 to half an hour face to face. pt. Roopchand joshi
used to do this in half

hour and smtime in 1 hour.Going deeper and deeper. but what priya ji
do is.. he/she never

ask any question never check the nature or character of planet just
reply at the end with

remedies and which are wrong to some extent too. this can spoil your
life or future.

4) He/she use to check 20- 30 horo or sometimes 50 per day. it is
good that he/she have

computer which make the generation of horoscopes easily, fastly and
quickly. The thing is

that bhooshan ji is not a computer. he is a man of the age 70 or 80
plus. Can u imagine or

can you agree that an eighty year old person working hard for whole
day and you agree that

he/she don't committ any mistake. or he is right everywhere. i dont
agree with this that a

person who is working over 30 to 50 kundlis per day at the age of 80
and he do not committ

any mistake.

5) Many of the members of him/her group (lalkitab_remedies) have
suffered a lot. and

contacted me. when i wrote to him/her in his/her group. he/she denied
and said that i am the

only owner of lalkitab_remedies and no other can interfere in my work
or inmy group even if

i am wrong// even shri yograj prabhakar ji corrected his many mistake
and in his previous

group where he have mentioned the page number of books wrongly.

6) He use cut copy paste scheme and do this in hurry and committ many
mistakes. i have proof

of it.. i have downkloaded all the mesaages of his group by win
httrack website copier.

analyzed them u can see that the whole wording of the remedies is
exactly same and that too

are not his. he has a book of shri dhanvantri8 ji fron which he
prescribe the whole remedies

and thats too without the drusti of kundli or without actual knowing
the state of horoscope.

7) The other thing is astrology is not his hobby neither his
profession then why he is

doing? have you ever thought why he is doing ??? He is a retired
professor who have gone

mad. This group for him is a source of entertainment or time pass. he
do this for his

enjoyment or to kill time. he is getting pension nothing to do.
totally free. so he think

that this could be the best thing to kill time. he has never revealed
his identity in the

group can anybody tell me who he is and what is his contact number
where he is from.

8) He is hiding all his identity. misguiding the peoples. he has many
fake ids. specially

varun trivedi and other are sharma.rohit, gill and many.

9) Earlier he use to tell only remedies and not mantras. i uploaded
mantras in my group. he

copied them and uploaded in his group by the name of varun. See when
the thing are free like

Langar
then EVERYONE IS POSTING MESSAGE TO LALKITAB_REMEDIES group. but
please don't save money at

the cost of your life or future. consult some professional astrologer
like umesh ji, or any

other good astrologer face to face or if on net then only that
asterologer who has revealed

his her identity. and not like this who is hiding his identity and
have mutiple ids and is

totally fake.

I have many more other points that are against him...

but i am not against him i am in favour of you. many of his group
members contacted me

personally and told me that they suffered a lot due to priyaji's
upays.

Earlier I stated that please dont save your money at the cost of your
future of life.

Plz think over it.

And i have some questions for priya ji,, if he/she is reading this
mail.

1) Why u have not revealed ur sex properly.. why there is a confusion
of he/she ?
2) why u have not revealed ur identity ?
3) why you are wasting your time and others too ? i agree that you
are free but others are

not mad like you ?
4) Why don't u open your free shop or start doing this over home ?
why only on net ? where

ids can be fake.. person can be fake.. we cannot do anthing if the
person tell us wrong

remedy ?? why priya ji why ??
5) why you are the only owner moderator of your group ? do you think
that only you are

intelligent and the rest are fools?

why ?? why ?? and big WHY >>>>WHY ?????

Regards,
Rohit Sharma Sunny

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Monday, June 23, 2008

Re: [astrostudents] Re: One More Great Lal Kitabi of his time.

Dear Friends,
Even i know a family who used to visit Neel Kanthji and when they were
going throug the bad days of life,he(Neelji) asked them to change
their buisness to hoisery and to take some money from your friend to
start the new venture.They did the same and the entire picture of the
family changed.Today they r among the rich people of ludhiana.We r not
in contact with them because they had left batala long back.
Livia.

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Re: [astrostudents] Discussion over GURU in 10th & Behaviou to be maintaine

Dear Rohit Ji,
You have excellently explained the 10th guru properties. I can judge from your explanation that there might be some combination in your Kundli, whose results overrule all the conditions written for normal planetary position. Please check your the kundli.
Regards
Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 9:47 AM, »--‡§ÜÑÑÝ-» <dhanulagna@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear all Gurujan,

I am new to this group. and a student of lalkitab. I have 3 frndz of
mine who have jupiter in 10th and me too.

* it is rightly said in lalkitab "Daswa ghar shani ka ghar hai, yahan
agar guru apna sawbhaw shani ki tarah kathor aur chalak nahi banayega
toh nuksan hoga"
meaning: 10th house is the property of Shani and if jupiter is there
then jupiter has to change his behaviour according to shani for his
survival.

* But what i experienced from others and myself.
that it is very difficult to change the behaviour of planet and
oneself too.

* Means the person has to change his behaviour and then only the
planets behaviour can be changed.(and changing ones behaviour is
tough thing)

* person should not be more religious, should be clever, should not
care about others and should be selfish to some extent.

* If i am not wrong GURUJAN then the above said points describe that
how a person should behave if jupiter is in 10th

now my observations and others(who have jupiter in 10th) is that it
is hard to change according to above said.

if somehow i or they managed to change for months or sometime then
what were the results ::: DISSATISFACTION, DISHONOUR, and DISLIKE
from society.

What i concluded is that something is misunderstood here...

Shani is not what is said in above written lines.
(GURU shani k tarah chalak chaukkana ho, dharam karam na kare kisi pe
taras na khaye.etc...)

* 1) Don't care for others: this means that shani is always busy
within his own work and he does not have extra time for useless
interference in other matters. (coz shani si hardworking)
* 2) He/she should not indulge in religious activities: Shani is a
planets whose nature is that this planets does not believe in showing
off the religiousnes like going to temples or prayers or lightening
diyas. it is of sanyasi or yogi nature. means it is of spiritual high
level religious planet.
* 3) KISI PE TARAS NA KHAYE (No sympathy no attachments etc.) : Is
this true ? Shani is planets who is responsible for karmic activities
their debts and credit. Means tit for tat. Means you will pay for
what you are doing.

so conclusion comes out to be that if jupiter is in 10th how should
he she behave.

[according to me: He shud be hardworking, spiritual but not
religious, should not interfere in other activities.]

this is often misunderstood by my friends or others when they analyse
kundli for jupiter in 10th..

Dear all learned gurujans. plz forgive if i might have written
something wrong(as i am just beginer) orsomething interpretted
wrongly. and Please throw light over this topic that HOW A PERSON
SHOULD BEHAVE OR CHANGE HIS HER BEHAVIOUR IF GURU IS IN 10TH HOUSE.

Regards,
Rohit Sharma Sunny


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Sunday, June 22, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: One More Great Lal Kitabi of his time.

Respected Gurujans,
maine bhee kisi se suna thaa ki batala mein ek lk ke bahut hee mahir
rehte theiy. jis ne mere ko yeh bataya thaa woh khud lk mein intrest
rakhte theiy. unohne bataya thaa ki kisi ka business jab bilkul thup
ho gaya to woh apna teva lekar unse mile to unohne unko bataya ki aap
sone ( gold ) ki ring mein kacha koyla dal ke pehno. meanz kacha koyla
sone mein pehno. uske baad uss shakhsh ne pichhe mud kar nahi dekha
din dugni raat chugni tarrkai kar raha hai woh shakhsh. meine unse
kaha ki uska teva ek baar mujhe bhee dikhao, uss shakhsh ne mana kar
diya woh apna teva abb kisi ko nahi dikhata . lekin jis ne kacha koyla
ki ring pehni hai woh abb bhee batala mein rehta hai , koyla badal
leta hai kharab ( break )ho jane ke baad.
mahajan
-- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Yograj Prabhakar"
<yr_prabhakar@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Vivian Sahib
>
> The information you have provided is very important for the grpup. I
> have heard a lot about Colonel Neelkanth ji and his unique remedial
> measure, but unfortunately never had the chance to meet him personally.
>
> This is one of the policies of our group to locate such doyens. We
> have already done some work in this direction and we were able to
> locate some veterans. Fortunately We were also successful in procuring
> some charts analyzed by Pt. jee apart from some other valuable
> informations. Apart from my other colleagues, Advocate Kulbir Bains ji
> have seen those charts at my place.
>
> We need to find those who use to visit or use to know Pundit jee and
> knows his style of work. There are still many questioned beyond our
> limited knowledge in LK and possibly those old stalwarts might have
> the answers.
>
> We need those elders becuse, I strongly believe What an elder sees
> sitting; the young can't see standing.
>
> Respectfully
> Yograj Prabhakar
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, vivian tandon <viviantandon@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Respected Kulbirji,
> > Thanx for ur responce,but I am going on adding wotever detail I am
> finding out from my uncles and will continue to do so in future also.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Saturday, June 21, 2008

[astrostudents] Discussion over GURU in 10th & Behaviou to be maintained

Dear all Gurujan,

I am new to this group. and a student of lalkitab. I have 3 frndz of
mine who have jupiter in 10th and me too.

* it is rightly said in lalkitab "Daswa ghar shani ka ghar hai, yahan
agar guru apna sawbhaw shani ki tarah kathor aur chalak nahi banayega
toh nuksan hoga"
meaning: 10th house is the property of Shani and if jupiter is there
then jupiter has to change his behaviour according to shani for his
survival.

* But what i experienced from others and myself.
that it is very difficult to change the behaviour of planet and
oneself too.

* Means the person has to change his behaviour and then only the
planets behaviour can be changed.(and changing ones behaviour is
tough thing)

* person should not be more religious, should be clever, should not
care about others and should be selfish to some extent.

* If i am not wrong GURUJAN then the above said points describe that
how a person should behave if jupiter is in 10th

now my observations and others(who have jupiter in 10th) is that it
is hard to change according to above said.

if somehow i or they managed to change for months or sometime then
what were the results ::: DISSATISFACTION, DISHONOUR, and DISLIKE
from society.

What i concluded is that something is misunderstood here...

Shani is not what is said in above written lines.
(GURU shani k tarah chalak chaukkana ho, dharam karam na kare kisi pe
taras na khaye.etc...)

* 1) Don't care for others: this means that shani is always busy
within his own work and he does not have extra time for useless
interference in other matters. (coz shani si hardworking)
* 2) He/she should not indulge in religious activities: Shani is a
planets whose nature is that this planets does not believe in showing
off the religiousnes like going to temples or prayers or lightening
diyas. it is of sanyasi or yogi nature. means it is of spiritual high
level religious planet.
* 3) KISI PE TARAS NA KHAYE (No sympathy no attachments etc.) : Is
this true ? Shani is planets who is responsible for karmic activities
their debts and credit. Means tit for tat. Means you will pay for
what you are doing.

so conclusion comes out to be that if jupiter is in 10th how should
he she behave.

[according to me: He shud be hardworking, spiritual but not
religious, should not interfere in other activities.]

this is often misunderstood by my friends or others when they analyse
kundli for jupiter in 10th..

Dear all learned gurujans. plz forgive if i might have written
something wrong(as i am just beginer) orsomething interpretted
wrongly. and Please throw light over this topic that HOW A PERSON
SHOULD BEHAVE OR CHANGE HIS HER BEHAVIOUR IF GURU IS IN 10TH HOUSE.

Regards,
Rohit Sharma Sunny

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Thursday, June 19, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: One More Great Lal Kitabi of his time.

Dear Vivian Sahib

The information you have provided is very important for the grpup. I
have heard a lot about Colonel Neelkanth ji and his unique remedial
measure, but unfortunately never had the chance to meet him personally.

This is one of the policies of our group to locate such doyens. We
have already done some work in this direction and we were able to
locate some veterans. Fortunately We were also successful in procuring
some charts analyzed by Pt. jee apart from some other valuable
informations. Apart from my other colleagues, Advocate Kulbir Bains ji
have seen those charts at my place.

We need to find those who use to visit or use to know Pundit jee and
knows his style of work. There are still many questioned beyond our
limited knowledge in LK and possibly those old stalwarts might have
the answers.

We need those elders becuse, I strongly believe What an elder sees
sitting; the young can't see standing.

Respectfully
Yograj Prabhakar

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, vivian tandon <viviantandon@...>
wrote:
>
> Respected Kulbirji,
> Thanx for ur responce,but I am going on adding wotever detail I am
finding out from my uncles and will continue to do so in future also.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [astrostudents]

Respected Livia Ji,
Welcome to the group of Lalkitab Students. I understand that you are having all the Hindi transliterations of Lalkitabs. If you have not any of these books you can get them from

(1). Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan-1939
Transliterated By Pt. VM Goswami
Sagar Publications
72,Janpath, Ved Mansion
New Delhi 110001

(2). Lal Kitab Ke Armaan-1940
Transliterated By Pt. VM Goswami
Himachal Publications
123, Lajpat Nagar, Sahibabad,
UP 201005
Ph: 9891911582

(3). Lal Kitab, Teesra hissa-1941 (Gutka)
Transliterated by : Yograj Prabhakar
Published by :  Rahul Computers
1st floor, Master press building
Sheran wala Gate, Patiala
Ph: 0175-5008675 ; 9876930229
(4) Lalkitab -1942 : No good transliteration is available in the market.We have uploaded the best transliterated book available so far, in group website http://astrostudents.1sthost.org. Please note that this book has errors, but still serve the purpose of reading.
(5) Lalkitab - 1952
1) You can download three volume Hindi transliteration from the above website. This is the best available 1952 transliteration and can be termed as 90% correct barring some missing paras. But this can be referred to for reading.
I don't recommend for printing of the downloaded material as these have dim printing and small font but you can read on computer screen.
2). Arun Sanhita (Translation of 1952 edition)
Published by Hare Krishna Trust
PO Box 123 , Chandigarh 160 017
This is almost 75% correct translation of 1952 edition of Lal and not a bad book to start with as long as an authentic transliteration is not available.
First of all start with 1939 book after applying correction given in 1940 book and then 1940, then 1941 so on. You can put any query relating to these books in case of any difficulty in understanding meaning.
We have in group, students of different levels of studies. Some are practicing astrologers, some have read all the books, some are busy in solving the logics of remedies.
Asking remedies is prohibited in the group. But one can free to discuss remedial measures, provided that these are supported by rules of Lalkitab.
The group have Achieved the following goals so far:
1. Providing online reading facility of all the five original books. These books are kept by astrologers in their safe.and they did not allow it have the light of the sun. Sh. Yog Raj Prabhakar Ji has provided the scanned copies these books  free to all students of  Lalkitab.
2. With efforts of the group, A project was started to encourage the astrologers/publishers to get these books word to word , line by line, page by page true hindi transliteration of original Urdu books so that the Hindi readers can get the full flavor & reading pleasure of original texts. So far we have achieved success in three books. Remaining books may be out in year or so.
Presently the group members are busy in studying these texts and discuss the books with the help os all the modern means like Telephone, E -Chat, mail, egroup & group chat.
You are welcome to discuss any of the topic of The Lalkitab.
Wish you a happy discussions here.
Regards
Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj


On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:16 PM, livia tandon <liviatandon@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Just want to know whats new our group is doing in order to keep the
research going.Actually i am new to the group and is unable to decide
where to start.So,please help me to start and be an active member.
Regards,
Livia


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Hi Everyone,
Just want to know whats new our group is doing in order to keep the
research going.Actually i am new to the group and is unable to decide
where to start.So,please help me to start and be an active member.
Regards,
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