Friday, October 31, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: effects of sixth house saturn

Dear Iqbal jee

Sorry for responding late. I think I was unable to make myself clear
in my earlier post. I have not suggested taking liquor at night in
Saturn in 6th house. I only said that in some cases (e.g. Sat in 4th)
such material can be consumed as medicine. As far as avoiding going to
temple is concerned, in this regard only planets posited in house no.
2, 8 and 12 are considered and there is no mention of house no. 6 in
Lal Kitab.

Sincerely
Yograj Prabhakar

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Iqbal Singh"
<punjabilovebug@...> wrote:
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> Respected Yograj Bhai,
>
> Just one clarification - Are you suggesting that liquor taken at
night with Saturn in 6th will be considered okay, as Saturn's mandi
halat would only personify itself during daytime?
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> Also - With an empty second house with Saturn in 6th, wouldn't it
also be prudent to avoid going to temples regularly considering the
reverse drishti of Saturn?
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> Thank you for your continued scholarly guidance.
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> Best Regards,
> Iqbal
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> Sent via Blackberry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@...>
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> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:39:31
> To: <astrostudents@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: effects of sixth house saturn
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> Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,
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> First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for
blessing us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be
benefited by your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:
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> //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since
last many years, //
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> Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of
35-year cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results
now. In my personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items
especially at the time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during
Varshphal, you should also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.
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> //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now
purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//
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> Ans:  Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also
mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.
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> //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then
what must be done now, to make amends ?//
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> Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now. 
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> //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the
day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn
will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become
afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed
moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)//
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> Ans:  Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said
that, and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has
certainly not indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather
indicated towards starting/doing the business related to Saturn.
Moderate drinking can not be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it
should be done only if a native faces health problems.
>
> Respectfully
> Yograj Prabhakar
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> --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@...> wrote:
> From: Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@...>
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: effects of sixth house saturn
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 6:10 PM
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> 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since
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> last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart.
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> But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions,
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> one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper
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> 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now
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> purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?
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> 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what
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> 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the
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> day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn
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> afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed
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> moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)
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> regards,
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> Bhaskar.
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> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Yograj Prabhakar
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> <yr_prabhakar@ ...> wrote:
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> > Respected Mahajan Sahib
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> > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand
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> materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere
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> mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge
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> because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing
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> material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers,
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> so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind
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> this "Second Hand item" theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist
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> having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it
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> > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:
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> > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.
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> > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu
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> > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.
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> > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon,
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> ketu and Venus
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> > (5). The native will never be childless normally.
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> > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat
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> > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.
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> > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or
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> construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6
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> during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from
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> government/employer /court/police etc.
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> > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6
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> during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a
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> Dharam Sthan)..
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> > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running
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> water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.
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> > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned
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> by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:
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> > "Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley
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> asar ko rokney ke
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> > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya
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> dariya ke paani
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> > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani
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> ke andar chhupa rahey......"
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> > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai
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> ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya
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> hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?
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> > Respectfully
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> > Yograj Prabhakar
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> > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:
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> > From: mts3434 <mts3434@ >
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> > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: effects of sixth house saturn
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> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
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> > Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM
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> > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.
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> > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,
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> > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh
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> > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar
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> > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "livia tandon"
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Thursday, October 30, 2008

[astrostudents] query

dear members
i am learner of lal kitab
my query is
sir
is it true
that SUN + MERCURY + VENUS is DOUBLE SUN
but bcoz SUN + MERCURY = Nek Mangal
and MERCURY + VENUS is SUN
whether it is nek MARS + VENUS
or SUN + SUN confused

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Re: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN

Respected Mudit ji, apne bilkul sahi kaha hai aur main apse poori tarah se sehmat hoon, ek badi prasiddh kahawat hai ki jab baaj khamosh ho jatey hain tab totey shor machaney lag jatey hai. Ap sab purane log pata nahi kyon gehri nidraa min leen ho gaye hain. 2003 se lekar 2005 tak kya badhiya discussion huya karti thi old group mein. Ap, Bhatia jee, lalkitbi jee, prabhakar jee, kulbeer ji, Iqbal jee, Anshev jee etc. kitni uttam batein bataya kartey the. Kitni khul kar debate huya karti thi ek-ek point par. Pata nahi kyon ap sab log chup ho gaye aur doosrey logon ne darzan darzan nakli naam rakh kar budhu banane ka silsila shuru kar diya. tabhi se standard ki discussion honi band ho gayi hai. Ab to sab log apni apni dafli aur apna apna raag alap rahe hain.

Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai, aur ye logon mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in logon ka 5 point agenda hai:

a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko bhramit karna,
c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki bat ko galat sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur par project karna.

Apke sahit sabhi purane khiladiyon se anurodh hai ki neend se jagiye aur jo log is vidya ko prapat karna chahte hain unki sahayta ke liye aage ayiye.

With respect
Pt. Lumxi Rattan Shukla

--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com>
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 4:56 PM

Dear Members,
No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not participate in group, we are not much discuss, than what can happened,  you all are seeing.  My suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give answer to those peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all  go for make much more to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and share the knowledge. An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge of English plz do not go for my errors.
                                                                                                      Thanks
                                                                                                      Regards
                                                       &nb sp;                                              Umesh Sharma

 

 

--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:
>
> well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt. ashant, that
> lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was "given" by
> someone during their service years in army.
>
> even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji himself, Pt. ji
> told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious who said
> what!!)
>
> even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT Pt. ji
> could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met prabhakar ji who
> assured me that i was right.
>
> i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people to mislead
> students like me, and i think you all would agree that one needs to
> know the true source of something before following it.
>
> it would be great if this group could organise camps where
> a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> b.) share knowledge.
> c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the origin and
> writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where credit is
> due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to Pt. ji.
>
> AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am pretty sure
> that 'what goes around comes around'.
>
> yours respectfuly
> jitin syal.
>
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Baljeet Pandher
> bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> >
> > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> >
> > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake identities by
> a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI LAL KITAB
> KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA MILA TO
> LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these who use
> fake mail names. people like us who think that these people are very
> great people and we believe what they said is correct. This is
> cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant believe
> that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> >
> > II was member of their group and found that these poeple are
> running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology always.
> Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI SAID THIS,
> OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata chal gaya
> tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar apni
> dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH KYA BAAT
> HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar Pundit Roop
> chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana ban kar
> Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul ye hi
> kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab ko pundit
> roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with his tail
> in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to contradict that
> means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely corrct. I also
> note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it and
> always try to prove it wrong.
> > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan ka bhi
> shikar hai.
> >
> > Apka abhari
> > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > From: Raj hdincp@
> > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> SAWDHAN
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Cc: hdincp@
> > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
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> > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread I was
> just  I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to people
> like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake group and
> people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has got to
> mislead people. I think the moderators should call and check the
> people who join this group
> > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold enough to
> give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping people.
> >  
> > I will be happy of any help in further development of the lal Kitab
> and Vedic astrology.
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> > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in
> which you really stop to look fear in the face.
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> > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you
> destroy yourself.
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> > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> SAWDHAN
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
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> > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things on right
> track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps will not
> only help the human kind but will also help to demask many fake
> people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud appreciate
> ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in practicality. ...
> >
> > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
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> > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> SAWDHAN
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
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> > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee thee jo
> ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki hum logo
> ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke naam par
> logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss group ka
> naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids  bana
> rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur khud hee
> uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki tarif kar
> deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri kafi saari
> mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss tarah se
> likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar nahi likh
> rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh galat kar
> rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to
> achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal raha hai.
> > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se (shayad)woh iss
> group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay iss group
> mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein bhee chala
> jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir unki
> dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee ek baat
> hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal sakte
> kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur hamesha
> se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh tp wohi
> jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee unko yeh
> chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par debate karte
> ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee hota. Mere
> baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat karein balki
> LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo ka bhala
> hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO MAZMEWALE KA
> APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB DETA HAI
> USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE HOTE HAIN
> TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali bajati
> hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki haan mein
> haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se kisi bhee
> tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh mail dekhe to
> mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki kyon na
> hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo ka bhala
> karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp lagaya kare
> aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee bhala hoga
> aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla camp unke
> hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
> jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya woh bhee
> jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye (unke India
> aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho sake to apna
> progrram pehle bata dein.
> > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA. SAB MEMBERS
> ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE KI YEH
> GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI. YEH GROUP
> LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki hum sahi
> raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein kyonki yehi
> LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton se thes
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[astrostudents] Re: Welcome Dr. Kiranjit Kumar

dated 31-10-2008

charan pranaam to all of my respected senior members and hello to all
of my colleagues,

i am really happy to see that many people are
coming forward to join this group not only because of only upayes and
remedies but only those people are coming forward who have the zeal to
understand the lal kitab thoroughly and were longing for it to happen
for so many years and ultimately the are getting the solid and actual
platform to stand on and say their words under the guidence of many
respected senior members like yograj ji, bhatia ji ,khattar
sahib,nirmal k bhardwaj ji,pk sharma ji .dr aggarwal sahib and there
are so many seniors that it will be difficult for me to list them all
so pl dont mind i have mentioned only few names.is group mein to ek se
ek anmol ratan bharae hain aur still the list is getting bigger and
bigger.

actually the one thing which i have seen personally either
by meeting members of this group or by having conversations over phone
with them i have found one thing simmilar in all of them that most of
them are dedicated for the sake of humanity rather than becoming
selfish.and this is the height of a true lal kitabi that his life is
dedicated for the sake of others inspite of his personal motives.

yesterday i had the privilige to meet Dr kiran jeet kumar our new
member who recently joined the group inspired by by yograj ji to go
and meet him .our meeting was wonderful and as told by yograj ji in
his mail about dr sahib i found him the same and he is a very soft
spoken and down to earth person.and having very supporting family bith
his children are doctors and he himself is a retired civil surgeon and
a thorough gentleman with a kind heart and giving his services to
various charitable institutions as an eyes specialist.whole family is
highly educated whereas his wife had rendered her services to
education field by being in various colleages.

as far as lal kitab is concerned i had found dr sahib
having blind faith in lal kitab and believes that what ever is written
in this book is true word by word ,i do believe the same but i got
more encouragement from him by seeing his attoot vishwas in lal
kitab.and its remedies he goes word by word thru this book only and
makes things happen .

its really great to have highly learned .proffesional such as doctors
engineers,economists and from various fields of education in our group
becaue such people can think deep up to the roots as they are great
think tanks and can serve nicely to humanity if they have their
tendency to help out humanity.

i would like to thank each and every member of this group to really
make things happening for the sake of humanity and trying to solve
unsolved mysteries by having positive discussions.it doesnt matter if
persons having bad motives are also reading and updating their data
after all they will use those things for the benefit of the other
person only so let the things keep on moving as we all know very
clearly that any person trying to commercialise lalkitab willbe writin
his pwn destiny by his own deeds.

once again i welcome to all new members

regards

Er.MS KONDAL

-- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Yograj Prabhakar"
<yr_prabhakar@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Dr. Sahib,
>
> I am very happy to announce that one of the true Lal kitab scholars
> Dr. Kiranjit Kumar ji of Hoshiarpur (Punjab) has accepted my request
> and joined our group recently. I would like to inform our collegues
> that Dr. Kiranjit Kumar ji is amongst the very few blessed people whom
> Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji gave his books himself. He also met Pundit
> ji many times and discussed various aspects of this great scripture.
> He is the treasure of practical experience. I have the privilege of
> having many telephonic discussion with him during the last more than
> one year, and I was always amazed by his deep knowledge of the subject.
>
> I, on behalf of our whole group welcome Dr. Kiranjit Kumar ji. Sir, we
> feeling really blessed and proud to have you in our Astrostudents
> community, and hopeful that we will learn a lot from your vast
> experience.
>
>
> Respectfully
> Yograj Prabhakar
>

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Re: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN


Respectable group members
 
I was wondering how an one old man manage more than one dozen screen names so efficiently. Leave apart his knowledge about Lal kitab, but We must appreciate his skill of remembering so much fake names and email passwords. I have heard about "Dashavatar" during my childhood but never knew a "Dozenavtar" like him before.
 
The mail forwarded by Ratan ji from other astro-forum is a shocker for me, for whole of my life I believed that people associated with this great book are above  such Drame-Baji but I am feeling really sad with the revelation made by Ratan ji. I have the privilige of meeting Pundit Roop chand ji many times during the late 60s and early 70s, I also know many professional Lal kitab astrologer (good and bad). But I never came across such a cheating on a grand scale where a person is using numerous fake IDs to prove himself superior. If he have the guts and his hands are clean, he must come forward and refute the charges. 
 
Faithfully
Dr. Kirti Sharma

--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com>
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 4:56 PM

Dear Members,
No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not participate in group, we are not much discuss, than what can happened,  you all are seeing.  My suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give answer to those peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all  go for make much more to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and share the knowledge. An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge of English plz do not go for my errors.
                                                                                                      Thanks
                                                                                                      Regards
                                                       &nb sp;                                              Umesh Sharma
 
 
--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:
>
> well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt. ashant, that
> lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was "given" by
> someone during their service years in army.
>
> even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji himself, Pt. ji
> told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious who said
> what!!)
>
> even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT Pt. ji
> could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met prabhakar ji who
> assured me that i was right.
>
> i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people to mislead
> students like me, and i think you all would agree that one needs to
> know the true source of something before following it.
>
> it would be great if this group could organise camps where
> a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> b.) share knowledge.
> c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the origin and
> writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where credit is
> due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to Pt. ji.
>
> AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am pretty sure
> that 'what goes around comes around'.
>
> yours respectfuly
> jitin syal.
>
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Baljeet Pandher
> bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> >
> > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> >
> > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake identities by
> a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI LAL KITAB
> KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA MILA TO
> LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these who use
> fake mail names. people like us who think that these people are very
> great people and we believe what they said is correct. This is
> cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant believe
> that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> >
> > II was member of their group and found that these poeple are
> running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology always.
> Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI SAID THIS,
> OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata chal gaya
> tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar apni
> dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH KYA BAAT
> HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar Pundit Roop
> chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana ban kar
> Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul ye hi
> kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab ko pundit
> roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with his tail
> in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to contradict that
> means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely corrct. I also
> note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it and
> always try to prove it wrong.
> > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan ka bhi
> shikar hai.
> >
> > Apka abhari
> > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > From: Raj hdincp@
> > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> SAWDHAN
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Cc: hdincp@
> > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread I was
> just  I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to people
> like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake group and
> people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has got to
> mislead people. I think the moderators should call and check the
> people who join this group
> > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold enough to
> give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping people.
> >  
> > I will be happy of any help in further development of the lal Kitab
> and Vedic astrology.
> >
> >
> > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in
> which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> >
> > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you
> destroy yourself.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> SAWDHAN
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things on right
> track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps will not
> only help the human kind but will also help to demask many fake
> people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud appreciate
> ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in practicality. ...
> >
> > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
> >
> > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> SAWDHAN
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee thee jo
> ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki hum logo
> ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke naam par
> logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss group ka
> naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids  bana
> rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur khud hee
> uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki tarif kar
> deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri kafi saari
> mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss tarah se
> likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar nahi likh
> rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh galat kar
> rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to
> achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal raha hai.
> > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se (shayad)woh iss
> group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay iss group
> mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein bhee chala
> jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir unki
> dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee ek baat
> hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal sakte
> kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur hamesha
> se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh tp wohi
> jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee unko yeh
> chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par debate karte
> ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee hota. Mere
> baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat karein balki
> LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo ka bhala
> hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO MAZMEWALE KA
> APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB DETA HAI
> USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE HOTE HAIN
> TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali bajati
> hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki haan mein
> haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se kisi bhee
> tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh mail dekhe to
> mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki kyon na
> hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo ka bhala
> karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp lagaya kare
> aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee bhala hoga
> aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla camp unke
> hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
> jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya woh bhee
> jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye (unke India
> aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho sake to apna
> progrram pehle bata dein.
> > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA. SAB MEMBERS
> ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE KI YEH
> GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI. YEH GROUP
> LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki hum sahi
> raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein kyonki yehi
> LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton se thes
> pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi laga woh
> zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB SE MAFI
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[astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN

Members,
Jaisa ki mein chahta tha bilkul vaisee hi hulchal huee hai. lekin
abhi bhee kuchh log neend se nahi jaage, jinka iss vishay par koi
vichar nahi aya.unke vichar jaan lene ke baad hee kuchh kaha ja
sakta hai ki woh iss baat se sehmat hai ya nahi ki UMESH SHARMA ji
ne jo likha hai woh sahi hai ya galat :-

We do not participate in group, we
> are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are
seeing.
Yahan tak mera hai mein Umesh jee ki baat se sehmat hoon.
hum logo ko chahiye ki koi na koi vishay iss group mein chalta hee
rahe taki sabki ruchi iss group mein bani rahe aur jo log lal kitab
ke baare mein kuchh kuchh jante hai unke gyan mein badotari ho aur
woh apne gyan ko logo ke bhale mein laga sake.

Mahajan

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Umesh Sharma"
<mudit982001@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Members,
> No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
> Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not participate in
group, we
> are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are
seeing. My
> suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give answer to
those
> peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all go for make
much
> more to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and share
the
> knowledge. An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
> I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge of
English plz
> do not go for my errors.
>

> Thanks
>

> Regards
>

> Umesh Sharma
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@>
> wrote:
> >
> > well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt. ashant,
that
> > lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was "given" by
> > someone during their service years in army.
> >
> > even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji himself,
Pt. ji
> > told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious who
said
> > what!!)
> >
> > even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT Pt. ji
> > could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met prabhakar ji
who
> > assured me that i was right.
> >
> > i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people to
mislead
> > students like me, and i think you all would agree that one needs
to
> > know the true source of something before following it.
> >
> > it would be great if this group could organise camps where
> > a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> > b.) share knowledge.
> > c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the origin and
> > writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where credit
is
> > due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to Pt.
ji.
> >
> > AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am pretty
sure
> > that 'what goes around comes around'.
> >
> > yours respectfuly
> > jitin syal.
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Baljeet Pandher
> > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> > >
> > > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake
identities by
> > a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI LAL
KITAB
> > KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA MILA
TO
> > LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these who
use
> > fake mail names. people like us who think that these people are
very
> > great people and we believe what they said is correct. This is
> > cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant
believe
> > that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> > >
> > > II was member of their group and found that these poeple are
> > running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology
always.
> > Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI SAID
THIS,
> > OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata chal
gaya
> > tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar apni
> > dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH KYA
BAAT
> > HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar Pundit
Roop
> > chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana ban
kar
> > Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul ye hi
> > kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab ko
pundit
> > roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with his
tail
> > in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to contradict
that
> > means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely corrct. I
also
> > note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it and
> > always try to prove it wrong.
> > > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan ka
bhi
> > shikar hai.
> > >
> > > Apka abhari
> > > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > > From: Raj hdincp@
> > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON SE
> > SAWDHAN
> > > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > > Cc: hdincp@
> > > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread I was
> > just I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to
people
> > like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake group
and
> > people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has got to
> > mislead people. I think the moderators should call and check the
> > people who join this group
> > > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold enough
to
> > give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping
people.
> > >
> > > I will be happy of any help in further development of the lal
Kitab
> > and Vedic astrology.
> > >
> > >
> > > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience
in
> > which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> > >
> > > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you
> > destroy yourself.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co.
in>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > SAWDHAN
> > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things on
right
> > track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps will not
> > only help the human kind but will also help to demask many fake
> > people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud
appreciate
> > ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in
practicality. ...
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > SAWDHAN
> > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee thee
jo
> > ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki hum
logo
> > ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke
naam par
> > logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss group ka
> > naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids bana
> > rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur khud hee
> > uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki tarif
kar
> > deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> > > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri kafi
saari
> > mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss
tarah se
> > likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar nahi
likh
> > rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh galat
kar
> > rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to
> > achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal
raha hai.
> > > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se (shayad)woh
iss
> > group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay iss
group
> > mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein bhee
chala
> > jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir unki
> > dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee ek
baat
> > hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal sakte
> > kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur
hamesha
> > se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh tp wohi
> > jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee unko
yeh
> > chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par debate
karte
> > ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee hota.
Mere
> > baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat karein
balki
> > LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo ka
bhala
> > hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO MAZMEWALE KA
> > APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB DETA
HAI
> > USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE HOTE
HAIN
> > TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali bajati
> > hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki haan mein
> > haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se kisi
bhee
> > tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh mail
dekhe to
> > mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki kyon
na
> > hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo ka
bhala
> > karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp lagaya
kare
> > aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee bhala
hoga
> > aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla camp
unke
> > hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
> > jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya woh
bhee
> > jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye (unke
India
> > aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho sake to
apna
> > progrram pehle bata dein.
> > > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA. SAB
MEMBERS
> > ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE KI
YEH
> > GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI. YEH
GROUP
> > LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki hum
sahi
> > raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein kyonki
yehi
> > LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton se thes
> > pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi laga woh
> > zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB SE MAFI
> > CHAHTA HOON KUCHH KADWA BHEE LIKHA HOGA.
> > > DHANYAWAD
> > > MAHAJAN
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