Thursday, October 30, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN

Members,
Jaisa ki mein chahta tha bilkul vaisee hi hulchal huee hai. lekin
abhi bhee kuchh log neend se nahi jaage, jinka iss vishay par koi
vichar nahi aya.unke vichar jaan lene ke baad hee kuchh kaha ja
sakta hai ki woh iss baat se sehmat hai ya nahi ki UMESH SHARMA ji
ne jo likha hai woh sahi hai ya galat :-

We do not participate in group, we
> are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are
seeing.
Yahan tak mera hai mein Umesh jee ki baat se sehmat hoon.
hum logo ko chahiye ki koi na koi vishay iss group mein chalta hee
rahe taki sabki ruchi iss group mein bani rahe aur jo log lal kitab
ke baare mein kuchh kuchh jante hai unke gyan mein badotari ho aur
woh apne gyan ko logo ke bhale mein laga sake.

Mahajan

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Umesh Sharma"
<mudit982001@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Members,
> No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
> Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not participate in
group, we
> are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are
seeing. My
> suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give answer to
those
> peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all go for make
much
> more to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and share
the
> knowledge. An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
> I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge of
English plz
> do not go for my errors.
>

> Thanks
>

> Regards
>

> Umesh Sharma
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@>
> wrote:
> >
> > well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt. ashant,
that
> > lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was "given" by
> > someone during their service years in army.
> >
> > even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji himself,
Pt. ji
> > told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious who
said
> > what!!)
> >
> > even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT Pt. ji
> > could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met prabhakar ji
who
> > assured me that i was right.
> >
> > i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people to
mislead
> > students like me, and i think you all would agree that one needs
to
> > know the true source of something before following it.
> >
> > it would be great if this group could organise camps where
> > a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> > b.) share knowledge.
> > c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the origin and
> > writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where credit
is
> > due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to Pt.
ji.
> >
> > AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am pretty
sure
> > that 'what goes around comes around'.
> >
> > yours respectfuly
> > jitin syal.
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Baljeet Pandher
> > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> > >
> > > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake
identities by
> > a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI LAL
KITAB
> > KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA MILA
TO
> > LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these who
use
> > fake mail names. people like us who think that these people are
very
> > great people and we believe what they said is correct. This is
> > cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant
believe
> > that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> > >
> > > II was member of their group and found that these poeple are
> > running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology
always.
> > Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI SAID
THIS,
> > OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata chal
gaya
> > tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar apni
> > dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH KYA
BAAT
> > HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar Pundit
Roop
> > chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana ban
kar
> > Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul ye hi
> > kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab ko
pundit
> > roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with his
tail
> > in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to contradict
that
> > means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely corrct. I
also
> > note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it and
> > always try to prove it wrong.
> > > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan ka
bhi
> > shikar hai.
> > >
> > > Apka abhari
> > > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > > From: Raj hdincp@
> > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON SE
> > SAWDHAN
> > > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > > Cc: hdincp@
> > > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread I was
> > just I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to
people
> > like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake group
and
> > people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has got to
> > mislead people. I think the moderators should call and check the
> > people who join this group
> > > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold enough
to
> > give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping
people.
> > >
> > > I will be happy of any help in further development of the lal
Kitab
> > and Vedic astrology.
> > >
> > >
> > > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience
in
> > which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> > >
> > > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you
> > destroy yourself.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co.
in>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > SAWDHAN
> > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things on
right
> > track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps will not
> > only help the human kind but will also help to demask many fake
> > people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud
appreciate
> > ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in
practicality. ...
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > SAWDHAN
> > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee thee
jo
> > ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki hum
logo
> > ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke
naam par
> > logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss group ka
> > naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids bana
> > rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur khud hee
> > uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki tarif
kar
> > deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> > > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri kafi
saari
> > mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss
tarah se
> > likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar nahi
likh
> > rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh galat
kar
> > rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to
> > achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal
raha hai.
> > > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se (shayad)woh
iss
> > group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay iss
group
> > mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein bhee
chala
> > jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir unki
> > dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee ek
baat
> > hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal sakte
> > kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur
hamesha
> > se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh tp wohi
> > jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee unko
yeh
> > chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par debate
karte
> > ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee hota.
Mere
> > baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat karein
balki
> > LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo ka
bhala
> > hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO MAZMEWALE KA
> > APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB DETA
HAI
> > USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE HOTE
HAIN
> > TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali bajati
> > hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki haan mein
> > haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se kisi
bhee
> > tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh mail
dekhe to
> > mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki kyon
na
> > hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo ka
bhala
> > karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp lagaya
kare
> > aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee bhala
hoga
> > aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla camp
unke
> > hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
> > jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya woh
bhee
> > jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye (unke
India
> > aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho sake to
apna
> > progrram pehle bata dein.
> > > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA. SAB
MEMBERS
> > ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE KI
YEH
> > GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI. YEH
GROUP
> > LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki hum
sahi
> > raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein kyonki
yehi
> > LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton se thes
> > pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi laga woh
> > zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB SE MAFI
> > CHAHTA HOON KUCHH KADWA BHEE LIKHA HOGA.
> > > DHANYAWAD
> > > MAHAJAN
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