Thursday, October 30, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN

well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt. ashant, that
lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was "given" by
someone during their service years in army.

even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji himself, Pt. ji
told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious who said
what!!)

even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT Pt. ji
could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met prabhakar ji who
assured me that i was right.

i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people to mislead
students like me, and i think you all would agree that one needs to
know the true source of something before following it.

it would be great if this group could organise camps where
a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
b.) share knowledge.
c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the origin and
writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where credit is
due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to Pt. ji.

AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am pretty sure
that 'what goes around comes around'.

yours respectfuly
jitin syal.

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Baljeet Pandher
<bs_pandher54@...> wrote:
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> Respected guru Mahajan ji
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> I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake identities by
a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI LAL KITAB
KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA MILA TO
LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these who use
fake mail names. people like us who think that these people are very
great people and we believe what they said is correct. This is
cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant believe
that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
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> II was member of their group and found that these poeple are
running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology always.
Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI SAID THIS,
OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata chal gaya
tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar apni
dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH KYA BAAT
HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar Pundit Roop
chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana ban kar
Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul ye hi
kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab ko pundit
roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with his tail
in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to contradict that
means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely corrct. I also
note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it and
always try to prove it wrong.
> Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan ka bhi
shikar hai.
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> Apka abhari
> BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
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> --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj <hdincp@...> wrote:
> From: Raj <hdincp@...>
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
SAWDHAN
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: hdincp@...
> Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
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> I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread I was
just  I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to people
like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake group and
people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has got to
mislead people. I think the moderators should call and check the
people who join this group
> anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold enough to
give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping people.
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> I will be happy of any help in further development of the lal Kitab
and Vedic astrology.
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> You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in
which you really stop to look fear in the face.
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> Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you
destroy yourself.
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> --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
wrote:
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> From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
SAWDHAN
> To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
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> Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things on right
track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps will not
only help the human kind but will also help to demask many fake
people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud appreciate
ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in practicality. ...
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> --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
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> From: mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
SAWDHAN
> To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
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> RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee thee jo
ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki hum logo
ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke naam par
logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss group ka
naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids  bana
rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur khud hee
uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki tarif kar
deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri kafi saari
mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss tarah se
likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar nahi likh
rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh galat kar
rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to
achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal raha hai.
> Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se (shayad)woh iss
group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay iss group
mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein bhee chala
jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir unki
dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee ek baat
hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal sakte
kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur hamesha
se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh tp wohi
jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee unko yeh
chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par debate karte
ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee hota. Mere
baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat karein balki
LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo ka bhala
hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO MAZMEWALE KA
APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB DETA HAI
USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE HOTE HAIN
TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali bajati
hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki haan mein
haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se kisi bhee
tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh mail dekhe to
mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki kyon na
hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo ka bhala
karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp lagaya kare
aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee bhala hoga
aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla camp unke
hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya woh bhee
jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye (unke India
aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho sake to apna
progrram pehle bata dein.
> YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA. SAB MEMBERS
ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE KI YEH
GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI. YEH GROUP
LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki hum sahi
raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein kyonki yehi
LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton se thes
pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi laga woh
zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB SE MAFI
CHAHTA HOON KUCHH KADWA BHEE LIKHA HOGA.
> DHANYAWAD
> MAHAJAN 
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