Respected Kondal Ji,
Thanks for refreshing and reminding us of these main necessities.
Every Lalkitab students try to develope the basic qualities mentioned
by you. Though it is very difficult for a person to keep maintained
up to this level, but if one keep on trying one can develope and
maintain these qualities.
Regards
Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, maneshwar singh kondal
<mskondal@...> wrote:
>
> Charan pranaam to all my seniors and colleagues,
>
> It is really nice to see all of you discussing on
> various aspects of the lal kitab.all members of this
> esteemed group belong to various fields ,either most
> of them are highly qualified,technical personalities
> and from other various academic backgrounds.in all I
> mean to say that every body knows the value of gaining
> education and giving education.the main purpose of
> this group is this that every body should start
> thinking and finding the root basics given in the lal
> kitab and start maintaining those things
> ,lifestyle,ideology,good character,universal
> brotherhood ,ecology and many other things in their
> own life and inspire others also to do the same with
> the help of this divine knowledge.
> As this discussion is going on on how to read lal
> kitab?no doubt it is a wonderful topic and all my
> seniors ,brothers and colleagues have given their
> remarkable findings and personal experiences for
> reading the lal kitab,seeking permission from all of
> you I would also like to add few things to the on
> going discussion:
>
> 1. FIRST OF ALL THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO READ THE
> LAL KITAB SHOULD BE A SIMPLE AND CALM PERSON.
> 2. HE SHOULD HAVE RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND.
> 3. HE SHOULD BE A PIOUS PERSON.
> 4. STRAIGHTFORWARD
> 5. HAVE LOGICAL MIND
> 6. AWAY FROM THE CLUTCHES OF WORLDLY BINDINGS
> 7. TREND SETTER
> 8. SHOULD NOT BE AFTER MONEY
> 9. SHOULD NOT HAVE EGO
> 10. DOWN TO EARTH PERSONALITY.
>
>
> I FEEL THESE ARE THE VERY SIMPLE FIRST BASICS WHICH
> ARE MANDATORY FOR THE ONE WHO WANTS TO READ AND
> UNDERSTAND THIS GREAT BOOK.AS WHEN WE ADOPT SOME
> RELIGON THERE ARE CERTAIN BASICS TO GET INTO THAT
> RELIGON AND THOSE THINGS ARE COMPULSORY,THE SAME WAY
> IS WITH THIS GREAT BOOK ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS AN EXTRA
> ORDINARY BOOK WRITTEN BY AN EXTRA ORDINARY PERSONALITY
> AND TO BE READ BY EXTRA ORDINARY PEOPLE ONLY( IN THE
> REAL WAY) BUT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET ALONG WITH ITS
> BASIC AND ORDINARY PRINCIPLES.
> SO I HAVE TO SAY ON MY PART THAT I AM STILL STRUGGLING
> AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BE WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE
> ABOVE SAID TEN POINTS AND TRYING TO ADOPT THESE THINGS
> IN MY LIFE BUT ITS REALLY TOO HARD,BUT I AM SURE THAT
> BY THE BLESSINGS OF MY SENIORS ,COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS
> I WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE HIDDEN MEANINGS
> OF THE LAL KITAB BY HUMBLE,NOBLE , AND SIMPLE
> APPROACH.
> I SPECIALLY PAY MY REGARDS TO YOGRAJJI,BECAUSE I AM
> ALWAYS TROUBLING HIM TO CLEAR MY DOUBTS IRRESPECTIVE
> OF TIME AS HE HAD GIVEN ME THE PRIVELEGE TO DISTURB
> HIM AT ANY TIME.THERE ARE SO MANY PERSONALITIES WITH
> WHOM I AM IN TOUCH ,ITS DIFFICULT TO NAME ALL OF THEM
> BUT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE NIRMAL JI FOR PERFORMING
> THIS GREAT DUTY WITH SUCH TRUTHFULLNESS AND
> DEDICATEDLY. BEING VERY SLOW IN TYPING I AM NOT ABLE
> TO WRITE QUITE OFTENLY BUT I DO READ MAILS AND ALWAYS
> TRY TO KEEP MYSELF UPDATED WITH GROUP ACTIVITIES.
> IN THE LAST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE LINE IN PUNJABI:
> ASAL DE VICH ASAL HI MIL SAKDA HAI KHOT NAHI
> MEANS REAL CAN MEET REAL ONLY
> REAL CANNOT MEET ARTIFICAL
>
> SO IF WE WANT TO LEARN THE TRUTH WHICH IS HIDDEN IN
> LAL KITAB,WE HAVE TO BECOME TRUE TO OURSELVES AND
> TRUTHFUL TO REST OF THE WORLD.
>
> REGARDS
> MS KONDAL
>
>
>
> --- Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@...> wrote:
>
> > Respected Kalsi jee
> >
> > You are absolutely right that its not an easy job to
> > read more than
> > 2000 pages, but "Kadin Marey Bina vee Swarag Milya
> > hai kisey nu? Aini
> > ku takleef taan karni hi paini hai Sir".
> >
> > You must be aware the the verbatim transliterations
> > of first three
> > editions (1939, 1940 and 1941) are already
> > available, 1942 edition
> > will be out in the coming few weeks.
> >
> > Transliteration of 1952 edition is a daunting task.
> > But I came to know
> > that the work is also under progress in full swing,
> > maybe the year
> > 2008 will also see the correct most transliteration
> > of 1952 edition also.
> >
> > Kindly keep us all blessed.
> >
> > Respectfully
> > Yograj Prabhakar
> >
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Shivdev
> > Kalsi"
> > <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Nirmal Ji,
> > > Methods seems to be good. There are nearly 3000
> > pages of all the
> > > books and with this speed it will take years to
> > have First reading of
> > > all the books. Moreover,
> > > Transliteration of all the books are not
> > available. How to cope up
> > > with that problem.
> > > Yours
> > >
> > > On 4/29/08, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yogesh ji, nirmal ji has listed the correct
> > method; through my
> > experience
> > > > i want to say that keep a copy with you, make
> > your own index,
> > whenever u
> > > > come across anything new note it down in the
> > copy alongwith page
> > no. this
> > > > will help u immensly. e.g while reading the book
> > u come across any
> > mention
> > > > of house note the page no. and brief details,
> > when u move ahead u
> > will again
> > > > come across this subject at various other
> > places, note them also
> > in same
> > > > way. this way when any doubt arises or you want
> > to understand any
> > concept,
> > > > all the material will be at your ready disposal,
> > this way u can
> > corelate and
> > > > understand better. each time u pick up the book
> > u will come across
> > a totally
> > > > different concept, slowly the revision of the
> > book will reveal its
> > logics,
> > > > grammar etc.
> > > > it may be my superstition but if the notebook
> > and lalkitab both are
> > > > covered by dull red colour, it helps.
> > > > lalkitab is a different stream of
> > astrology/occult; comparison can
> > be made
> > > > with other streams at advanced stage but i
> > prefer that it should
> > be read
> > > > independent of any bias or comparison.
> > > > happy reading.
> > > > kulbirbance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/28/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Yogesh Ji,
> > > > > First all i refresh about the LalKitab
> > editions. You might be
> > knowing
> > > > > that there are five books. each volume is
> > independent of
> > others. Study the
> > > > > books serially i.e. first 1939, then 1940,
> > 1941, 1942 and
> > finally 1952.
> > > > > There are many methods oif reading a subject.
> > I have been to
> > this sort
> > > > > of experience while doing studies initialy. I
> > give you few keys
> > to read this
> > > > > book.This may help every new students
> > > > > *Key No.1*. Consider your self that you are a
> > student of Primary
> > class.
> > > > > You will be in this level only untill you read
> > all the five books.
> > > > > *Key No.2.* Consider each lalkitab as Qayda
> > (Primer) and
> > consider it self as very simple and is written in
> > such a language
> > which is very simple
> > > > > to understand . Consider that this book is
> > written only for you
> > keeping in
> > > > > view of your mental level only..
> > > > > *Key No.3*. Think - what a primary class
> > student think while reading
> > > > > Qayda.
> > > > > few thoughts of these are
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. This Qayda is always correct.Dont bring
> > the word 'why' untill
> > > > > you read all the five books.
> > > > > 2. Keep aside the Vedic Astrology and its
> > rules for time being.
> > > > > You can co-relate later on.
> > > > > 3. Grammer is the pressure area which shall
> > be given more time.
> > > > > 4. Read at speed as slow as you can. Keep
> > in mind you have to be
> > > > > winner of slow race.
> > > > >
> > > > > Above all, keep away all guide books on
> > lalkitab. You can read these
> > > > > books later on after reading all the five
> > books. Think only
> > > > > what you understand dont go by others' words.
> > > > > *Key No 4*. Make a list of Ashayiaan of
> > planets, khanawise,
> > planet wise
> > > > > as you read. Dont go for ready made lists,
> > make yourself.
> > > > > *Key No 5. Dont Try remedies untill you read
> > all five books*
> > > > >
> > > > > *Beware:* some habits may try to start forcing
> > your minds after
> > reading
> > > > > few books. few of them are
> > > > >
> > > > > - Justifying/co-relating each rule with
> > other system of Astrology
> > > > > - Habit of becoming student of higher
> > class. This is a very
> > > > > dangerous habit. If it enters then you will
> > be encircled by
> > budh Dayra.
> > > > > Even a simple word seems to be hiding a
> > vast meaning.You can
> > write as many
> > > > > pages as you can for justifying your
> > meaning of a word even if
> > > > > your understanding are wrong.
> > > > > - Worst habit will be that you find an
> > error in the book.
> > this habit indicates that the student is
> > > > > going away from the basic concepts.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Always remember that you are becoming the
> > part of a system. if you
> > > > > follow the rules of the system
> > > > > then and then only you can learn it
> > completely.Once you become
> > the part of this system then only you can have the
> > liberty to debate
> > the issues.
> > > > > *
> > > > > I follow these rules till date.
> > > > > Hope you will find it use full.
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4/28/08, yogesh jaitely
> > <yogesh.jaitely@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Respected Experts,
> > > > > > I have Arun Sanhita LalKitab and Teesra by
> > Yograj Prabhakar.Is
> > there
> > > > > > any special method to read this book. I am
> > unable to link the
> > matter during
> > > > > > reading.
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
>
>
>
>
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