Astrostudents-Group Discussions: Re: [astrostudents] Re: How to read LalKitab?

Respected guru ji, it is absolutely correct, but with ur kind permission i want to add that pt ji advised the book to be covered in dull red colour signifying mangal nek. i personally feel friends representing mangal nek help by assuming the role of friend philospher and guide. u must be remebering the case of pistan which was solved by prabhakar ji, lalkitab has technical and local dialects which an senior friend can explain e.g for suraj no2 in its written SAKHI HO TO BADHTA JAVE......... now only some senior member/friend can explain that here sakhi means sakhi sarawar lakh data pir and not a friend, tunia tota is another example, there are many many examples.

but gurudev the present age is of kalyug i have live examples of people who don't follow some of ur 10 point formula but still there is unparrallel. i think will power is the greatest motivator.

sincerely

kulbirbance

On 5/2/08, maneshwar singh kondal <mskondal@yahoo.com> wrote:

Charan pranaam to all my seniors and colleagues,

It is really nice to see all of you discussing on
various aspects of the lal kitab.all members of this
esteemed group belong to various fields ,either most
of them are highly qualified,technical personalities
and from other various academic backgrounds.in all I
mean to say that every body knows the value of gaining
education and giving education.the main purpose of
this group is this that every body should start
thinking and finding the root basics given in the lal
kitab and start maintaining those things
,lifestyle,ideology,good character,universal
brotherhood ,ecology and many other things in their
own life and inspire others also to do the same with
the help of this divine knowledge.
As this discussion is going on on how to read lal
kitab?no doubt it is a wonderful topic and all my
seniors ,brothers and colleagues have given their
remarkable findings and personal experiences for
reading the lal kitab,seeking permission from all of
you I would also like to add few things to the on
going discussion:

1. FIRST OF ALL THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO READ THE
LAL KITAB SHOULD BE A SIMPLE AND CALM PERSON.
2. HE SHOULD HAVE RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND.
3. HE SHOULD BE A PIOUS PERSON.
4. STRAIGHTFORWARD
5. HAVE LOGICAL MIND
6. AWAY FROM THE CLUTCHES OF WORLDLY BINDINGS
7. TREND SETTER
8. SHOULD NOT BE AFTER MONEY
9. SHOULD NOT HAVE EGO
10. DOWN TO EARTH PERSONALITY.

I FEEL THESE ARE THE VERY SIMPLE FIRST BASICS WHICH
ARE MANDATORY FOR THE ONE WHO WANTS TO READ AND
UNDERSTAND THIS GREAT BOOK.AS WHEN WE ADOPT SOME
RELIGON THERE ARE CERTAIN BASICS TO GET INTO THAT
RELIGON AND THOSE THINGS ARE COMPULSORY,THE SAME WAY
IS WITH THIS GREAT BOOK ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS AN EXTRA
ORDINARY BOOK WRITTEN BY AN EXTRA ORDINARY PERSONALITY
AND TO BE READ BY EXTRA ORDINARY PEOPLE ONLY( IN THE
REAL WAY) BUT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET ALONG WITH ITS
BASIC AND ORDINARY PRINCIPLES.
SO I HAVE TO SAY ON MY PART THAT I AM STILL STRUGGLING
AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BE WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE
ABOVE SAID TEN POINTS AND TRYING TO ADOPT THESE THINGS
IN MY LIFE BUT ITS REALLY TOO HARD,BUT I AM SURE THAT
BY THE BLESSINGS OF MY SENIORS ,COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS
I WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE HIDDEN MEANINGS
OF THE LAL KITAB BY HUMBLE,NOBLE , AND SIMPLE
APPROACH.
I SPECIALLY PAY MY REGARDS TO YOGRAJJI,BECAUSE I AM
ALWAYS TROUBLING HIM TO CLEAR MY DOUBTS IRRESPECTIVE
OF TIME AS HE HAD GIVEN ME THE PRIVELEGE TO DISTURB
HIM AT ANY TIME.THERE ARE SO MANY PERSONALITIES WITH
WHOM I AM IN TOUCH ,ITS DIFFICULT TO NAME ALL OF THEM
BUT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE NIRMAL JI FOR PERFORMING
THIS GREAT DUTY WITH SUCH TRUTHFULLNESS AND
DEDICATEDLY. BEING VERY SLOW IN TYPING I AM NOT ABLE
TO WRITE QUITE OFTENLY BUT I DO READ MAILS AND ALWAYS
TRY TO KEEP MYSELF UPDATED WITH GROUP ACTIVITIES.
IN THE LAST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE LINE IN PUNJABI:
ASAL DE VICH ASAL HI MIL SAKDA HAI KHOT NAHI
MEANS REAL CAN MEET REAL ONLY
REAL CANNOT MEET ARTIFICAL

SO IF WE WANT TO LEARN THE TRUTH WHICH IS HIDDEN IN
LAL KITAB,WE HAVE TO BECOME TRUE TO OURSELVES AND
TRUTHFUL TO REST OF THE WORLD.

REGARDS
MS KONDAL

--- Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Respected Kalsi jee
>
> You are absolutely right that its not an easy job to
> read more than
> 2000 pages, but "Kadin Marey Bina vee Swarag Milya
> hai kisey nu? Aini
> ku takleef taan karni hi paini hai Sir".
>
> You must be aware the the verbatim transliterations
> of first three
> editions (1939, 1940 and 1941) are already
> available, 1942 edition
> will be out in the coming few weeks.
>
> Transliteration of 1952 edition is a daunting task.
> But I came to know
> that the work is also under progress in full swing,
> maybe the year
> 2008 will also see the correct most transliteration
> of 1952 edition also.
>
> Kindly keep us all blessed.
>
> Respectfully
> Yograj Prabhakar
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Shivdev
> Kalsi"
> <shivdev.kalsi@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Nirmal Ji,
> > Methods seems to be good. There are nearly 3000
> pages of all the
> > books and with this speed it will take years to
> have First reading of
> > all the books. Moreover,
> > Transliteration of all the books are not
> available. How to cope up
> > with that problem.
> > Yours
> >
> > On 4/29/08, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yogesh ji, nirmal ji has listed the correct
> method; through my
> experience
> > > i want to say that keep a copy with you, make
> your own index,
> whenever u
> > > come across anything new note it down in the
> copy alongwith page
> no. this
> > > will help u immensly. e.g while reading the book
> u come across any
> mention
> > > of house note the page no. and brief details,
> when u move ahead u
> will again
> > > come across this subject at various other
> places, note them also
> in same
> > > way. this way when any doubt arises or you want
> to understand any
> concept,
> > > all the material will be at your ready disposal,
> this way u can
> corelate and
> > > understand better. each time u pick up the book
> u will come across
> a totally
> > > different concept, slowly the revision of the
> book will reveal its
> logics,
> > > grammar etc.
> > > it may be my superstition but if the notebook
> and lalkitab both are
> > > covered by dull red colour, it helps.
> > > lalkitab is a different stream of
> astrology/occult; comparison can
> be made
> > > with other streams at advanced stage but i
> prefer that it should
> be read
> > > independent of any bias or comparison.
> > > happy reading.
> > > kulbirbance
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/28/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Yogesh Ji,
> > > > First all i refresh about the LalKitab
> editions. You might be
> knowing
> > > > that there are five books. each volume is
> independent of
> others. Study the
> > > > books serially i.e. first 1939, then 1940,
> 1941, 1942 and
> finally 1952.
> > > > There are many methods oif reading a subject.
> I have been to
> this sort
> > > > of experience while doing studies initialy. I
> give you few keys
> to read this
> > > > book.This may help every new students
> > > > *Key No.1*. Consider your self that you are a
> student of Primary
> class.
> > > > You will be in this level only untill you read
> all the five books.
> > > > *Key No.2.* Consider each lalkitab as Qayda
> (Primer) and
> consider it self as very simple and is written in
> such a language
> which is very simple
> > > > to understand . Consider that this book is
> written only for you
> keeping in
> > > > view of your mental level only..
> > > > *Key No.3*. Think - what a primary class
> student think while reading
> > > > Qayda.
> > > > few thoughts of these are
> > > >
> > > > 1. This Qayda is always correct.Dont bring
> the word 'why' untill
> > > > you read all the five books.
> > > > 2. Keep aside the Vedic Astrology and its
> rules for time being.
> > > > You can co-relate later on.
> > > > 3. Grammer is the pressure area which shall
> be given more time.
> > > > 4. Read at speed as slow as you can. Keep
> in mind you have to be
> > > > winner of slow race.
> > > >
> > > > Above all, keep away all guide books on
> lalkitab. You can read these
> > > > books later on after reading all the five
> books. Think only
> > > > what you understand dont go by others' words.
> > > > *Key No 4*. Make a list of Ashayiaan of
> planets, khanawise,
> planet wise
> > > > as you read. Dont go for ready made lists,
> make yourself.
> > > > *Key No 5. Dont Try remedies untill you read
> all five books*
> > > >
> > > > *Beware:* some habits may try to start forcing
> your minds after
> reading
> > > > few books. few of them are
> > > >
> > > > - Justifying/co-relating each rule with
> other system of Astrology
> > > > - Habit of becoming student of higher
> class. This is a very
> > > > dangerous habit. If it enters then you will
> be encircled by
> budh Dayra.
> > > > Even a simple word seems to be hiding a
> vast meaning.You can
> write as many
> > > > pages as you can for justifying your
> meaning of a word even if
> > > > your understanding are wrong.
> > > > - Worst habit will be that you find an
> error in the book.
> this habit indicates that the student is
> > > > going away from the basic concepts.
> > > >
> > > > *Always remember that you are becoming the
> part of a system. if you
> > > > follow the rules of the system
> > > > then and then only you can learn it
> completely.Once you become
> the part of this system then only you can have the
> liberty to debate
> the issues.
> > > > *
> > > > I follow these rules till date.
> > > > Hope you will find it use full.
> > > > Regards
> > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj
> > > >
> > > > On 4/28/08, yogesh jaitely
> <yogesh.jaitely@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Respected Experts,
> > > > > I have Arun Sanhita LalKitab and Teesra by
> Yograj Prabhakar.Is
> there
> > > > > any special method to read this book. I am
> unable to link the
> matter during
> > > > > reading.
>
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