Saturday, April 18, 2009

[astrostudents] Kundlis collected by Pandit Goswami Ji [1 Attachment]

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Dear members,

Pandit Beni Madhav Goswami Ji recently visited Pharwala, the native village of Pt. Rup Chand Joshi Ji, and also visited chandigarh on his return journey. He have collected severalkundlis analysed by Pt. Rup Chand Joshi Ji. Durin the meetin at chandigarh,Goswami ji Gave photocopies of three available hard copies to us for uploading in the group for the members. He also promised to put the copies of other kundlis in the group. I on behalf of the group say thanks to Pt. Goswami Ji. Pt. Goswami Ji, Group is realy grate ful to you for you this love.

Best regards

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj . 

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Thursday, April 09, 2009

[astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB



Res Kulbir Ji,Mahajan Ji
Im replying after a long mum, bcoz my net & computers were not working.
Tah-e-dil se aap dono ke zazbey ki kadra kartaa hun.I accept kulbir's words that may be Im obstinate to my beliefs.But my beliefs are not to crush imotional attachments to this divine knowledge.Though I want to say- The mandatory-presence of TRIMURTHI (addressed by Kulbir ji) is not so much important.Important is ur ZAZBAA & each person who has the same.Both of u shud proceed it & Im sure all other members including Nirmal Ji,Kondal Ji,Pradeep Ji & other will be supportive to both of u.
Jahaan tak meraa sawaal hai, main bhi purjor koshish karoongaa, lekin abhi se koyee vaadaa nahi kar saktaa.I have to move according to my own circumstances at the moment.Baaki jaisa gurudev ka aadesh ya uski marzi jisne jahaan banaayaa.
With Regards
Pt.Lalkitabee
V.Shukla
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Iqbal Singh" <punjabilovebug@...> wrote:
>
> Kulbir Paji - We would be most indebted if you could film or provide live streaming od this even for the benefit of all us foreigners as well.
>
> I would be happy to pledge some money in support of this august event.
>
> Best Regards,
> Iqbal
> USA
>
>
>
> Sent via Blackberry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...>
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:31:25
> To: <astrostudents@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB
>
>
> Guruji, i have receieved many calls since ur contest. Prabhakar ji has
> also given all his love and affection to me just like you. So even if
> he has any inhibitions he will not refuse my request. Now the problem
> is with shukla ji as per his words i am his neem taru. But u know he
> is obstinate in his beliefs and it is hard to make him please. Lets
> hope he gives his consent and we all can see and hear the trimurti
> together. Regards. Kulbir.
>
> On 4/1/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@...> wrote:
> > Dear Kulbeer,
> > I am ready to share my experiances any where. Go ahead and fix the date and
> > place
> > Thanks & regaeds
> > Umesh Sharma
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Umesh ji, actually it is my desire that ur goodself yograj ji and
> >> shukla ji share the stage together like we did when u sponsored the
> >> seminar in delhi. Regards. Kulbir.
> >>
> >> On 3/29/09, Sharat Pandit <sharatpandit@> wrote:
> >> > Umesh ji
> >> >
> >> > very well said!! I agree with you completely.
> >> >
> >> > regards
> >> >
> >> > Sharat pandit
> >> >
> >> > --- On Sun, 29/3/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@>
> >> > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB
> >> > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 5:44 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Respected Mahajan Ji,
> >> > Namskaar,
> >> > Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya
> >> > vedic
> >> > Jyotish ya Tantra_Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
> >> > Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki kisi
> >> > ka
> >> > bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le raha he
> >> > uska gyan ussey jyada hey. Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to
> >> > Jyotish
> >> > ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta hoon ki
> >> > LalKitab
> >> > ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki baat hey to jo
> >> > professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak hey jo ki jyotish
> >> > ko
> >> > sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi jyotishi ho jo
> >> > professional es
> >> > kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran santuhi dega kyonki uss se
> >> > dubara
> >> > bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse koi fayda nahin hua to kya
> >> > aap
> >> > uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski recommendation kisi aur ko
> >> > karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana koi buri baat nahin HAAN ye
> >> > avshay
> >> > hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye. Mahajan ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka
> >> > udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat par vichar nahin kiya ki koi
> >> > kya
> >> > kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main laga raha aur LALKITAB ke liye
> >> > kaam
> >> > karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke Log uskey Shukar guzar hain ki
> >> > uski
> >> > khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke vastvik rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main
> >> > apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi
> >> > karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha.
> >> > But i
> >> > salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR JI, jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon
> >> > ke
> >> > samney yeh kitab khol ke rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala
> >> > -------- aur Karvaan banta gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf
> >> > esliye
> >> > hey hi hum kisi aur par kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari
> >> > se
> >> > kya sewa kar saktey hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki
> >> > baat
> >> > hey Bahut hi achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga
> >> > ye
> >> > jaroor vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par
> >> > dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain ki esa nahi hoga
> >> > to
> >> > kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho sara
> >> > khracha mere jimmey. Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye kah
> >> > betha.
> >> > Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks & Regerds
> >> >
> >> > Umesh Sharma
> >> >
> >> > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "mts3434" <mts3434@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Members,
> >> >>
> >> >> Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
> >> >> shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang leta
> >> >> hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap ko
> >> >> har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein bhee
> >> >> unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
> >> >> marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar
> >> >> jane
> >> >> dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
> >> >> dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin kitna
> >> >> samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee banaya
> >> >> hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath nikal
> >> >> lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi se
> >> >> charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
> >> >> sarasar galat hoti hai).
> >> >>
> >> >> Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko ek
> >> >> hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
> >> >> insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
> >> >> aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam
> >> >> ho,
> >> >> aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
> >> >> KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe bas
> >> >> apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
> >> >> thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho, apni
> >> >> jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa gaya
> >> >> hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein vichar
> >> >> vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan par
> >> >> logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur
> >> >> logo
> >> >> se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
> >> >> premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
> >> >> seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
> >> >> kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith kar
> >> >> charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
> >> >> achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya
> >> >> failly
> >> >> huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN wali
> >> >> baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB ko
> >> >> lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne shehar
> >> >> LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap sab
> >> >> ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith kar
> >> >> charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye
> >> >> mujhe
> >> >> manzoor hoga.
> >> >>
> >> >> Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath ek
> >> >> baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
> >> >> hai.
> >> >>
> >> >> Shubhkamna Sahit
> >> >>
> >> >> MAHAJAN
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to
> >> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from my mobile device
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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>

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Thursday, April 02, 2009

[astrostudents] Re: Contradiction to Vedic astrology

Dear Ashok Ji,
As i earlier said that every systtem has its own rules to follow and analyze.
Lalkitab do not use Signs as being used in Traditional Astrology. The House are the prime consideration. Brihaspati is Uchha in Fourth House and neecha in 10th house, Mars Neecha in 4th and Uchha in 10th.
If you interpret the horoscope in Lalkitab System You have to consider mars as neech as per given horoscope and use Lalkitab rules.
Since both the system are quite different (Though have some similarities)hence one has to treat them individually and independent.
Homoeopathy cures the human diseases,allopathy also does the same, Ayurvedic also does the same and naturopathy also do the same. And they all are effective and also contradictory to each other.
So In my opinion it is better to stick on to the system for which one want to practice.
Regards
Nirmal
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Ashok singh <y2k_aksingh@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Nirmal Ji,
> �
> I really appreciate your answer and I fully agree with you but the both system
> is predicting very different ofcourse the rule has been followed accordingly.
> �
> Plz. Draw the horoscope and you will see the discrepancy.�
> �
> I am looking forward to discuss on this topic because only one of the system can be correct.
> �
> Best of regards
> Ashok�
>
>
> --- On Thu, 3/26/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...>
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Contradiction to Vedic astrology
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 1:05 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ashok,
>
> Lalkitab is based on the different platform than the traditional astrology which is based astronomy. The main base of this science is Palmistry and Qyafa. The Horoscope should be made from palms considering different lines & marks. It is told in the book that till the proficiency in this technique is not gained ,one can use the Horoscope made on the basis of astronomy, and that too by leaving aside signs & nakshatra part at all.Only House kundli is to be taken.Thus one may find contradiction if one uses mixed rules of traditional astrology and Lalkitab.
>
> The contradiction occur only when one mix the rules of one system to another. You know the rules of Ayurveda, Homoeopathic and allopathic differ from each other, while the purpose of all the same is to treat the disease.�
> In my opinion,� One must follow the rules of systems for which he is practising.�
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, y2k_aksingh <y2k_aksingh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Members,
> I have seen the condition where Lal kitab totally contradict with Vedic
> astrology.
> Here is the birth chart:
>
> HNO1 :(Rashi-7 ,Moon)
> HN02 :(Rashi-8 ,Ketu )
> HN03 :(Rashi-9 )
> HNO4 :(Rashi-10 ,Mars)
> HNO5 :(Rashi-11 )
> HNO6 :(Rashi-12 ,Venus)
> HNO7 :(Rash-1 ,Sun,Mercury)
> HNO8 :(Rashi-2 ,Rahu)
> HNO9 :(Rashi-3 ,Shani)
> HNO10:(Rashi- 4,Jupiter)
> HNO11:(Rashi- 5)
> HNO12:(Rashi- 6)
>
> As per Vedic Astrology:
> Ma,Ju,Su is exalted and all the other planets
> is also in good position but as per Lal kitab
> Ma,Ju,Su is debliated and remaining planets
> are also not in good position(when we consider
> first house as first rashi).
>
> I consulted Vedic and Lalkitab astrologer and their
> point of view is just opposite to each other.
>
> Now my question is How the two system claim to be accurate
> when the prediction is totally different.
>
> My Suggestion:
>
> When we make Birth chart according to Lal kitab we consider first
> House as first rashi and predict afterward instead of that
> If we move the rashi number 1 planets to house number 1 and
> move all the planets according to that then I guess we can
> overcome the contradiction I know this is not the rule but
> atleast I am going to try this to see how the prediction is
> comming.
>
> Plz. post your suggestion it is urgent.
>
> Regards
> Ashok
>

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Wednesday, April 01, 2009

Re: [astrostudents] PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB

Kulbir Paji - We would be most indebted if you could film or provide live streaming od this even for the benefit of all us foreigners as well.

I would be happy to pledge some money in support of this august event.

Best Regards,
Iqbal
USA


Sent via Blackberry

From: kulbir bance
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:31:25 +0500
To: <astrostudents@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [astrostudents] PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB

Guruji, i have receieved many calls since ur contest. Prabhakar ji has
also given all his love and affection to me just like you. So even if
he has any inhibitions he will not refuse my request. Now the problem
is with shukla ji as per his words i am his neem taru. But u know he
is obstinate in his beliefs and it is hard to make him please. Lets
hope he gives his consent and we all can see and hear the trimurti
together. Regards. Kulbir.

On 4/1/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Kulbeer,
> I am ready to share my experiances any where. Go ahead and fix the date and
> place
> Thanks & regaeds
> Umesh Sharma
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>>
>> Umesh ji, actually it is my desire that ur goodself yograj ji and
>> shukla ji share the stage together like we did when u sponsored the
>> seminar in delhi. Regards. Kulbir.
>>
>> On 3/29/09, Sharat Pandit <sharatpandit@...> wrote:
>> > Umesh ji
>> >
>> > very well said!! I agree with you completely.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Sharat pandit
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 29/3/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@...>
>> > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB
>> > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 5:44 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Respected Mahajan Ji,
>> > Namskaar,
>> > Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya
>> > vedic
>> > Jyotish ya Tantra_Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
>> > Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki kisi
>> > ka
>> > bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le raha he
>> > uska gyan ussey jyada hey.  Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to
>> > Jyotish
>> > ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta hoon ki
>> > LalKitab
>> > ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki baat hey to jo
>> > professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak hey jo ki jyotish
>> > ko
>> > sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi jyotishi ho jo
>> > professional es
>> > kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran santuhi dega kyonki uss se
>> > dubara
>> > bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse koi fayda nahin hua to kya
>> > aap
>> > uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski recommendation kisi aur ko
>> > karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana koi buri baat nahin HAAN ye
>> > avshay
>> > hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye. Mahajan ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka
>> > udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat par vichar nahin kiya ki koi
>> > kya
>> > kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main laga raha aur LALKITAB ke liye
>> > kaam
>> > karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke Log uskey Shukar guzar hain ki
>> > uski
>> > khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke vastvik rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main
>> > apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi
>> > karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha.
>> > But i
>> > salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR JI,  jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon
>> > ke
>> > samney yeh kitab khol ke rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala
>> > --------  aur Karvaan banta gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf
>> > esliye
>> > hey hi hum kisi aur par kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari
>> > se
>> > kya sewa kar saktey hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki
>> > baat
>> > hey Bahut hi achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga
>> > ye
>> > jaroor vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par
>> > dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain  ki esa nahi hoga
>> > to
>> > kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho sara
>> > khracha mere jimmey.  Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye kah
>> > betha.
>> > Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.
>> >
>> > Thanks & Regerds
>> >
>> > Umesh Sharma
>> >
>> > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "mts3434" <mts3434@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Members,
>> >>
>> >> Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
>> >> shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang leta
>> >> hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
>> >>
>> >> Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap ko
>> >> har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein bhee
>> >> unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
>> >> marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar
>> >> jane
>> >> dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
>> >> dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin kitna
>> >> samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee banaya
>> >> hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath nikal
>> >> lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi se
>> >> charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
>> >> sarasar galat hoti hai).
>> >>
>> >> Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko ek
>> >> hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
>> >> insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
>> >> aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
>> >>
>> >> Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam
>> >> ho,
>> >> aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
>> >> KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe bas
>> >> apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
>> >> thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho, apni
>> >> jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa gaya
>> >> hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein vichar
>> >> vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
>> >>
>> >> Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan par
>> >> logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur
>> >> logo
>> >> se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
>> >> premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
>> >> seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
>> >> kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith kar
>> >> charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
>> >> achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya
>> >> failly
>> >> huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN wali
>> >> baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB ko
>> >> lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne shehar
>> >> LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap sab
>> >> ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith kar
>> >> charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye
>> >> mujhe
>> >> manzoor hoga.
>> >>
>> >> Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath ek
>> >> baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
>> >> hai.
>> >>
>> >> Shubhkamna Sahit
>> >>
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[astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB


Umesh Jee,

Namaskar,

Abhi tak sirf aapki razamandi aayee hai , par woh bhee kuchh talkhi ke
saath(mere likhne mein kuchh galat ho gaya hoga, shayad iss liye).Fir
bhee khushi hai ki mera likhna fizool nahi gaya.

Mera likhne ka bilkul bhee woh maqsad nahi thaa jo aapne samjha(ya sab
ne samjha hoga)

JAB BHEE MEIN YA KOI AUR BHEE YEH KAHEGA KI LAL KITAB KE NAAM PAR
DUKANDARI CHALA RAHE HAIN YA CHAL RAHI HAI

to mera (ya sabka) nishana aap ya professional jyotishi nahi hote, balki
woh log hote hain jo NEEM HAKIM KHATRA-E-JAAN type ke hain aur jinka
maqsad hee sirf paisa vasoolana hota hai.

LAL KITAB ke jankar aap ka, Yog Raj jee ka, Nirmal Jee ka, Veni Madhav
Goswami Jee ka,Kulbir Bains Jee ka tatha aise hee aur bhee kuchh
hastiyan hongi unka ehsan kabhi nahi bhool payengi, kyonki unhi kee
vajah se aaj LAL KITAB uplabhad hai, varna yeh to ek khawab hee rehta.

Lekin itna kuchh ho jaane ke baad bhee log, iss baare mein kitna kuchh
jaante hain, shayad kuchh bhee nahi, issiliye to mein kehta(chahta) hoon
ki LAL KITAB ko ghar ghar pahunchaya jaye aur iss ke dwara logo kee
kuchh na kuchh madad kee jaye, kyonki abhi bhee bahut se log aise hain
jo professional jyotish ke paas jane se darte hain,ya unki fee hee kuchh
zyada hoti hai(hogi).

Mere khayal se agar professional jyotishee bhee agar saptah ka ek din
free consultaion kar dein to shayad logo kee dua(best wishes) se hee
unko itna kuchh prapat ho jayega , jitne ke baare mein unho ne socha
bhee nahi hoga(chahe to koi bhee isko azma kar dekh le).Kyonki insaan
paise zyada vasool karne se utni zaldi nahi badega jitni zaldi ki woh
logo ki best wishes se badega.

Issiliye mein chahta thaa ki LAL KITAB ke mahir bhee mahine ka ek
din(yeh seminar/camp har mahine alag alag shehar mein kiya jaye) logo
kee sewa ke liye nikal diya karein ta ki LAL KITAB ke dwara hee logo ka
bhala ho sake tatha log bhee LAL KITAB ke baare mein jaan jaye aur woh
iss padhiti par vishwas karein.Kahin aisa na ho ki professional
jyotishee, profession ke chakr mein aise ulajh jaye ki garib ka bhala
hee na kar sakeh to aisee vidhya ya ilam ka fayda jo sirf amiron ke kaam
hee aaye?

Agar mera aise likhne se kisi kee bhavnao ko thes panhonche to mein uss
mein kya kar sakta hoon sivaye mafi mangne ke. Iss liye mein agar kisi
kee bhavnaon ko thes pahuncha raha hoon to mafi chahta hoon.

Kabhi kisi garib kee dil se nikli dua le kar dekhiye, ki uska asar kitni
zaldi hota hai, ya kitni khushi milti hai , aisa chamtkar hoga ki
....................................... bas dekhte reh jayoge

MAHAJAN

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Umesh Sharma" <mudit982001@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Respected Mahajan Ji,
> Namskaar,
> Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya
> vedic Jyotish ya Tantra _Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
> Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki
kisi
> ka bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le
raha
> he uska gyan ussey jyada hey. Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to
> Jyotish ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta
hoon
> ki LalKitab ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki
> baat hey to jo professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak
hey
> jo ki jyotish ko sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi
jyotishi
> ho jo professional es kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran
santuhi
> dega kyonki uss se dubara bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse
koi
> fayda nahin hua to kya aap uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski
> recommendation kisi aur ko karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana
koi
> buri baat nahin HAAN ye avshay hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye.
Mahajan
> ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat
par
> vichar nahin kiya ki koi kya kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main
laga
> raha aur LALKITAB ke liye kaam karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke
Log
> uskey Shukar guzar hain ki uski khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke
vastvik
> rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari
> manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon
> ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha. But i salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR
> JI, jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon ke samney yeh kitab khol ke
> rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala -------- aur Karvaan
banta
> gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf esliye hey hi hum kisi aur par
> kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari se kya sewa kar saktey
> hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki baat hey Bahut hi
> achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga ye jaroor
> vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par
> dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain ki esa nahi hoga
> to kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho
> sara khracha mere jimmey. Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye
> kah betha. Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.
>
>
> Thanks & Regerds
>
>
> Umesh Sharma
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "mts3434" mts3434@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Members,
> >
> > Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
> > shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang
leta
> > hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
> >
> > Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap
ko
> > har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein
> bhee
> > unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
> > marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar
> jane
> > dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
> > dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin
kitna
> > samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee
> banaya
> > hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath
nikal
> > lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi
se
> > charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
> > sarasar galat hoti hai).
> >
> > Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko
ek
> > hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
> > insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
> > aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
> >
> > Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam
> ho,
> > aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
> > KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe
> bas
> > apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
> > thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho,
> apni
> > jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa
gaya
> > hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein
vichar
> > vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
> >
> > Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan
> par
> > logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur
> logo
> > se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
> > premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
> > seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
> > kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith
> kar
> > charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
> > achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya
> failly
> > huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN
> wali
> > baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB
ko
> > lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne
shehar
> > LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap
> sab
> > ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith
kar
> > charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye
> mujhe
> > manzoor hoga.
> >
> > Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath
> ek
> > baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
> > hai.
> >
> > Shubhkamna Sahit
> >
> > MAHAJAN
> >
>

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Re: [astrostudents] PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB

Guruji, i have receieved many calls since ur contest. Prabhakar ji has
also given all his love and affection to me just like you. So even if
he has any inhibitions he will not refuse my request. Now the problem
is with shukla ji as per his words i am his neem taru. But u know he
is obstinate in his beliefs and it is hard to make him please. Lets
hope he gives his consent and we all can see and hear the trimurti
together. Regards. Kulbir.

On 4/1/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Kulbeer,
> I am ready to share my experiances any where. Go ahead and fix the date and
> place
> Thanks & regaeds
> Umesh Sharma
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>>
>> Umesh ji, actually it is my desire that ur goodself yograj ji and
>> shukla ji share the stage together like we did when u sponsored the
>> seminar in delhi. Regards. Kulbir.
>>
>> On 3/29/09, Sharat Pandit <sharatpandit@...> wrote:
>> > Umesh ji
>> >
>> > very well said!! I agree with you completely.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Sharat pandit
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 29/3/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@...>
>> > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB
>> > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 5:44 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Respected Mahajan Ji,
>> > Namskaar,
>> > Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya
>> > vedic
>> > Jyotish ya Tantra _Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
>> > Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki kisi
>> > ka
>> > bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le raha he
>> > uska gyan ussey jyada hey.  Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to
>> > Jyotish
>> > ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta hoon ki
>> > LalKitab
>> > ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki baat hey to jo
>> > professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak hey jo ki jyotish
>> > ko
>> > sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi jyotishi ho jo
>> > professional es
>> > kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran santuhi dega kyonki uss se
>> > dubara
>> > bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse koi fayda nahin hua to kya
>> > aap
>> > uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski recommendation kisi aur ko
>> > karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana koi buri baat nahin HAAN ye
>> > avshay
>> > hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye. Mahajan ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka
>> > udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat par vichar nahin kiya ki koi
>> > kya
>> > kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main laga raha aur LALKITAB ke liye
>> > kaam
>> > karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke Log uskey Shukar guzar hain ki
>> > uski
>> > khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke vastvik rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main
>> > apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi
>> > karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha.
>> > But i
>> > salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR JI,  jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon
>> > ke
>> > samney yeh kitab khol ke rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala
>> > --------  aur Karvaan banta gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf
>> > esliye
>> > hey hi hum kisi aur par kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari
>> > se
>> > kya sewa kar saktey hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki
>> > baat
>> > hey Bahut hi achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga
>> > ye
>> > jaroor vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par
>> > dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain  ki esa nahi hoga
>> > to
>> > kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho sara
>> > khracha mere jimmey.  Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye kah
>> > betha.
>> > Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.
>> >
>> > Thanks & Regerds
>> >
>> > Umesh Sharma
>> >
>> > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "mts3434" <mts3434@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Members,
>> >>
>> >> Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
>> >> shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang leta
>> >> hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
>> >>
>> >> Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap ko
>> >> har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein bhee
>> >> unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
>> >> marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar
>> >> jane
>> >> dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
>> >> dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin kitna
>> >> samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee banaya
>> >> hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath nikal
>> >> lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi se
>> >> charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
>> >> sarasar galat hoti hai).
>> >>
>> >> Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko ek
>> >> hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
>> >> insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
>> >> aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
>> >>
>> >> Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam
>> >> ho,
>> >> aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
>> >> KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe bas
>> >> apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
>> >> thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho, apni
>> >> jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa gaya
>> >> hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein vichar
>> >> vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
>> >>
>> >> Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan par
>> >> logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur
>> >> logo
>> >> se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
>> >> premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
>> >> seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
>> >> kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith kar
>> >> charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
>> >> achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya
>> >> failly
>> >> huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN wali
>> >> baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB ko
>> >> lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne shehar
>> >> LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap sab
>> >> ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith kar
>> >> charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye
>> >> mujhe
>> >> manzoor hoga.
>> >>
>> >> Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath ek
>> >> baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
>> >> hai.
>> >>
>> >> Shubhkamna Sahit
>> >>
>> >> MAHAJAN
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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