Tuesday, March 31, 2009

[astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB

Dear Kulbeer,
I am ready to share my experiances any where. Go ahead and fix the date and place
Thanks & regaeds
Umesh Sharma

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>
> Umesh ji, actually it is my desire that ur goodself yograj ji and
> shukla ji share the stage together like we did when u sponsored the
> seminar in delhi. Regards. Kulbir.
>
> On 3/29/09, Sharat Pandit <sharatpandit@...> wrote:
> > Umesh ji
> >
> > very well said!! I agree with you completely.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Sharat pandit
> >
> > --- On Sun, 29/3/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@...>
> > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB
> > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 5:44 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Respected Mahajan Ji,
> > Namskaar,
> > Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya vedic
> > Jyotish ya Tantra _Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
> > Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki kisi ka
> > bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le raha he
> > uska gyan ussey jyada hey.  Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to Jyotish
> > ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta hoon ki LalKitab
> > ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki baat hey to jo
> > professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak hey jo ki jyotish ko
> > sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi jyotishi ho jo professional es
> > kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran santuhi dega kyonki uss se dubara
> > bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse koi fayda nahin hua to kya aap
> > uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski recommendation kisi aur ko
> > karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana koi buri baat nahin HAAN ye avshay
> > hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye. Mahajan ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka
> > udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat par vichar nahin kiya ki koi kya
> > kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main laga raha aur LALKITAB ke liye kaam
> > karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke Log uskey Shukar guzar hain ki uski
> > khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke vastvik rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main
> > apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi
> > karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha. But i
> > salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR JI,  jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon ke
> > samney yeh kitab khol ke rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala
> > --------  aur Karvaan banta gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf esliye
> > hey hi hum kisi aur par kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari se
> > kya sewa kar saktey hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki baat
> > hey Bahut hi achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga ye
> > jaroor vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par
> > dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain  ki esa nahi hoga to
> > kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho sara
> > khracha mere jimmey.  Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye kah betha.
> > Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.
> >
> > Thanks & Regerds
> >
> > Umesh Sharma
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "mts3434" <mts3434@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Members,
> >>
> >> Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
> >> shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang leta
> >> hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
> >>
> >> Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap ko
> >> har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein bhee
> >> unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
> >> marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar jane
> >> dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
> >> dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin kitna
> >> samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee banaya
> >> hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath nikal
> >> lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi se
> >> charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
> >> sarasar galat hoti hai).
> >>
> >> Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko ek
> >> hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
> >> insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
> >> aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
> >>
> >> Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam ho,
> >> aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
> >> KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe bas
> >> apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
> >> thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho, apni
> >> jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa gaya
> >> hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein vichar
> >> vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
> >>
> >> Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan par
> >> logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur logo
> >> se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
> >> premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
> >> seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
> >> kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith kar
> >> charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
> >> achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya failly
> >> huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN wali
> >> baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB ko
> >> lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne shehar
> >> LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap sab
> >> ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith kar
> >> charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye mujhe
> >> manzoor hoga.
> >>
> >> Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath ek
> >> baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
> >> hai.
> >>
> >> Shubhkamna Sahit
> >>
> >> MAHAJAN
> >>
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Sunday, March 29, 2009

Re: [astrostudents] PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB

Umesh ji, actually it is my desire that ur goodself yograj ji and
shukla ji share the stage together like we did when u sponsored the
seminar in delhi. Regards. Kulbir.

On 3/29/09, Sharat Pandit <sharatpandit@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Umesh ji
>
> very well said!! I agree with you completely.
>
> regards
>
> Sharat pandit
>
> --- On Sun, 29/3/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 5:44 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Respected Mahajan Ji,
> Namskaar,
> Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya vedic
> Jyotish ya Tantra _Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
> Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki kisi ka
> bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le raha he
> uska gyan ussey jyada hey.  Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to Jyotish
> ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta hoon ki LalKitab
> ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki baat hey to jo
> professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak hey jo ki jyotish ko
> sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi jyotishi ho jo professional es
> kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran santuhi dega kyonki uss se dubara
> bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse koi fayda nahin hua to kya aap
> uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski recommendation kisi aur ko
> karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana koi buri baat nahin HAAN ye avshay
> hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye. Mahajan ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka
> udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat par vichar nahin kiya ki koi kya
> kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main laga raha aur LALKITAB ke liye kaam
> karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke Log uskey Shukar guzar hain ki uski
> khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke vastvik rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main
> apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi
> karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha. But i
> salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR JI,  jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon ke
> samney yeh kitab khol ke rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala
> --------  aur Karvaan banta gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf esliye
> hey hi hum kisi aur par kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari se
> kya sewa kar saktey hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki baat
> hey Bahut hi achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga ye
> jaroor vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par
> dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain  ki esa nahi hoga to
> kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho sara
> khracha mere jimmey.  Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye kah betha.
> Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.
>
> Thanks & Regerds
>
> Umesh Sharma
>
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "mts3434" <mts3434@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Members,
>>
>> Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
>> shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang leta
>> hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
>>
>> Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap ko
>> har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein bhee
>> unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
>> marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar jane
>> dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
>> dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin kitna
>> samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee banaya
>> hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath nikal
>> lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi se
>> charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
>> sarasar galat hoti hai).
>>
>> Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko ek
>> hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
>> insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
>> aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
>>
>> Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam ho,
>> aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
>> KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe bas
>> apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
>> thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho, apni
>> jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa gaya
>> hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein vichar
>> vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
>>
>> Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan par
>> logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur logo
>> se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
>> premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
>> seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
>> kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith kar
>> charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
>> achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya failly
>> huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN wali
>> baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB ko
>> lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne shehar
>> LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap sab
>> ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith kar
>> charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye mujhe
>> manzoor hoga.
>>
>> Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath ek
>> baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
>> hai.
>>
>> Shubhkamna Sahit
>>
>> MAHAJAN
>>
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Re: [astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB

Umesh ji
 
very well said!! I agree with you completely.
 
regards
 
Sharat pandit

--- On Sun, 29/3/09, Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Umesh Sharma <mudit982001@yahoo.com>
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 5:44 PM

Respected Mahajan Ji,
Namskaar,
Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya vedic Jyotish ya Tantra _Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki kisi ka bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le raha he uska gyan ussey jyada hey.  Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to Jyotish ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta hoon ki LalKitab ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki baat hey to jo professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak hey jo ki jyotish ko sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi jyotishi ho jo professional es kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran santuhi dega kyonki uss se dubara bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse koi fayda nahin hua to kya aap uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski recommendation kisi aur ko karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana koi buri baat nahin HAAN ye avshay hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye. Mahajan ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat par vichar nahin kiya ki koi kya kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main laga raha aur LALKITAB ke liye kaam karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke Log uskey Shukar guzar hain ki uski khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke vastvik rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha. But i salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR JI,  jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon ke samney yeh kitab khol ke rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala --------  aur Karvaan banta gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf esliye hey hi hum kisi aur par kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari se kya sewa kar saktey hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki baat hey Bahut hi achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga ye jaroor vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain  ki esa nahi hoga to kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho sara khracha mere jimmey.  Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye kah betha. Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.
                                                                                                       Thanks & Regerds
                                                                                                         Umesh Sharma

--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "mts3434" <mts3434@...> wrote:
>
>
> Members,
>
> Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
> shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang leta
> hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
>
> Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap ko
> har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein bhee
> unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
> marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar jane
> dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
> dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin kitna
> samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee banaya
> hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath nikal
> lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi se
> charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
> sarasar galat hoti hai).
>
> Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko ek
> hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
> insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
> aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
>
> Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam ho,
> aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
> KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe bas
> apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
> thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho, apni
> jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa gaya
> hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein vichar
> vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
>
> Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan par
> logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur logo
> se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
> premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
> seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
> kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith kar
> charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
> achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya failly
> huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN wali
> baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB ko
> lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne shehar
> LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap sab
> ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith kar
> charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye mujhe
> manzoor hoga.
>
> Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath ek
> baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
> hai.
>
> Shubhkamna Sahit
>
> MAHAJAN
>

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[astrostudents] Re: PANDIT RUP CHAND JEE AUR LAL KITAB

Respected Mahajan Ji,
Namskaar,
Aapka gussa jayaz hey par yeh sirf Lalkitab ke naam par hi kyon? Kya vedic Jyotish ya Tantra _Mantra ke naam par ye sab nahin ho raha kya?
Lal-kitab ko achi tarah se samjhaney ka kya paimana hey? Kyonki ki kisi ka bhi exam lene se pahley se sabit karna jaroori hey ki jo exam le raha he uska gyan ussey jyada hey.  Jahan tak Bhrantiyon ki baat hey vah to Jyotish ki sari vidhaon ko lekar hi hey. Main aapse poochna chahta hoon ki LalKitab ko lekar kya bhrantiyan hain? Aur jahan tak dukandari ki baat hey to jo professional jyotishi hey vo un longon se kam kharnak hey jo ki jyotish ko sirf hobby ke liye kartey hain Kyonki koi bhi jyotishi ho jo professional es kam ko karta hey vo aapney grahak ko puran santuhi dega kyonki uss se dubara bhi fayda lena hey.Maan lain ki aapko usse koi fayda nahin hua to kya aap uskey pas dubara jayaingey? kya aap uski recommendation kisi aur ko karaingey? Mere anusaar dukandari chalana koi buri baat nahin HAAN ye avshay hey ki EMANDARI se chalayi jaye. Mahajan ji. main aapko Ek vyakti ka udhaharan deta hoon jisney kabhi es baat par vichar nahin kiya ki koi kya kar raha hey Vah sirf apney kaam main laga raha aur LALKITAB ke liye kaam karta raha. Aaj LalKitab Community ke Log uskey Shukar guzar hain ki uski khatir se longon ko LALKITAB ke vastvik rup ka pata chalaa. Halanki Main apney aapko LalKitab ka bahut aabhari manta tha parntoo main bhi kinhi karano se dra hua tha aur kuch chizon ko jag jahir nahi karta tha tha. But i salute to MR. YOGRAJ PRABHAKAR JI,  jinhoney bina kisi hichak ke longon ke samney yeh kitab khol ke rakh di. Esi ko kahtey hain ki " Akela chala --------  aur Karvaan banta gaya." Guru ji, Mera yeh sab kahna sirf esliye hey hi hum kisi aur par kya pabandi laga saktey hain? Hum khud Emandari se kya sewa kar saktey hain bus yehi badi baat hey. Jahan tak Seminar ki baat hey Bahut hi achha vichsar hey parntoo essey LALKITAB ko kya fayda hoga ye jaroor vichar kar lain? Kya esa to nahi ki ye bhi LALKITAB ke naam par dukandari ko badava de de? Agar aap yeh sochtain hain  ki esa nahi hoga to kharchey ko divide kya karana aap aadesh dain jahan bhi karana ho sara khracha mere jimmey.  Sir, Kuch khatte-mittey anubhav hain esliye kah betha. Kisi baat ka bura mat maniyega.

                                                                                                       Thanks & Regerds

                                                                                                         Umesh Sharma

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "mts3434" <mts3434@...> wrote:
>
>
> Members,
>
> Navrataron ki shubh kamnayo ke saath hee ek alag hee tarah ka topic
> shuru kar rahan hoon jiski mein aap sab se pehle hee kshama maang leta
> hoon aur mein chahata ki sab log/member iss mein bhag lein.
>
> Jaisa ki aajkal aap sab dekh rahe hain LAL KITAB ke specialist aap ko
> har gali ki nukaad ,bazar,mohalla ya shehar mein mil jayenge (mein bhee
> unn mein se hoon aisa mera manana hai, mein appvaad nahi), jinki
> marzi/ichha ho to apni suee(needle) kee noke(hole) se haathi gujjar jane
> dein agar marzi na ho to aapke haathi kee punchh bhee na gujrane
> dein.LAL KITAB ko hum sab samjhane ka daawa to karte hain ,lekin kitna
> samajh paye hain ,iska kya paimana hai ,yeh sab kuchh hamara hee banaya
> hua hai.Hum khud hee apni samajh ke anusar har uss baat ka arath nikal
> lete hain jo humko hamari samjh ke anusar sahi lagti hai, uski kisi se
> charcha nahi karna chahte ki koi uska fayda na udha le (jabki woh
> sarasar galat hoti hai).
>
> Kya koi aisee sanstha hai jo ki LAL KITAB kee samajh rakhne walo ko ek
> hee manch pradan karei aur uska member banane ka gaurav mil jaye to
> insan(LAL KITAB KE JANKAR) apne aap ko bhagyashali samjhe.Aaj to har
> aadmi apni dukandari chala raha hai LAL KITAB ke naam par.
>
> Mujh ko aisa lagta hai ki aaj bhee agar kahin LAL KITAB par koi exam ho,
> aur uss mein pandit jee hissa lete to unko FAIL kar dete.kyonki LAL
> KITAB kee atma ko hum samjhne ki cheshta hee nahi karte ya kar rahe bas
> apni apni dhafli ,apna apna raag .kya LAL KITAB issiliye likhi gayee
> thee ki iss se apni dukandari chalayo , kisi ka bhala ho ya na ho, apni
> jholi to bhar lo apna bhala to kar lo.Mere khayal se abb samay aa gaya
> hai ki LAL KITAB ke premi ek manch par ikathe ho aur aapas mein vichar
> vimarsh karke kuchh hal nikale.
>
> Kya aisa nahi ho sakta ki koi LAL KITAB par seminar kiya jaye yahan par
> logo ki samasayon ka LAL KITAB ke aadhar par samadhan kiya jaye aur logo
> se iss ke liye koi paisa/fee na vasool kiya jaye. Sab LAL KITAB ke
> premion ka mahine mein ek din milna kya mushkil hai ? Yeh camp ya
> seminar har baar alag alag shehar mein lagaya jaye aur iss par jo
> kharcha aaye usko divide kiya jaye, sab member ek din iss par baith kar
> charcha karein ya issi group mein apne vichar pragat kar de to bhee
> achha hai. Iss se samaj mein jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein bhrantiya failly
> huee hain woh bhee nikal jayengi aur NAALE PUNYA TE NAALE FALLIYAN wali
> baat ho jayegi. Iss se Pujya Pandit Jee ne jo kuchh bhee LAL KITAB ko
> lekar socha hoga shayad pura ho jaye.Sab se pehle mein hee apne shehar
> LUDHIANA mein camp/seminar rakh sakta hoon, sab zumevari meri , aap sab
> ka saath chahiye. Apni razamandi avash bheje , lekin ek baar baith kar
> charch a zaroor kar lein aap jo bhee sthan chunege charcha ke liye mujhe
> manzoor hoga.
>
> Pujya Pandit Jee aur Lal Kitab ke baare ek baar soche aur apna haath ek
> baar zaroor badaye .Fir dekhe ki aapki zindgi mein kitna badlav aata
> hai.
>
> Shubhkamna Sahit
>
> MAHAJAN
>

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Friday, March 27, 2009

Re: [astrostudents] Contradiction to Vedic astrology

Dear Nirmal Ji,
 
I really appreciate your answer and I fully agree with you but the both system
is predicting very different ofcourse the rule has been followed accordingly.
 
Plz. Draw the horoscope and you will see the discrepancy. 
 
I am looking forward to discuss on this topic because only one of the system can be correct.
 
Best of regards
Ashok 


--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Contradiction to Vedic astrology
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 1:05 AM

Dear Ashok,
Lalkitab is based on the different platform than the traditional astrology which is based astronomy. The main base of this science is Palmistry and Qyafa. The Horoscope should be made from palms considering different lines & marks. It is told in the book that till the proficiency in this technique is not gained ,one can use the Horoscope made on the basis of astronomy, and that too by leaving aside signs & nakshatra part at all.Only House kundli is to be taken.Thus one may find contradiction if one uses mixed rules of traditional astrology and Lalkitab.
The contradiction occur only when one mix the rules of one system to another. You know the rules of Ayurveda, Homoeopathic and allopathic differ from each other, while the purpose of all the same is to treat the disease. 
In my opinion,  One must follow the rules of systems for which he is practising. 
Regards
Nirmal

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, y2k_aksingh <y2k_aksingh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Members,
I have seen the condition where Lal kitab totally contradict with Vedic
astrology.
Here is the birth chart:

HNO1 :(Rashi-7 ,Moon)
HN02 :(Rashi-8 ,Ketu )
HN03 :(Rashi-9 )
HNO4 :(Rashi-10 ,Mars)
HNO5 :(Rashi-11 )
HNO6 :(Rashi-12 ,Venus)
HNO7 :(Rash-1 ,Sun,Mercury)
HNO8 :(Rashi-2 ,Rahu)
HNO9 :(Rashi-3 ,Shani)
HNO10:(Rashi- 4,Jupiter)
HNO11:(Rashi- 5)
HNO12:(Rashi- 6)

As per Vedic Astrology:
Ma,Ju,Su is exalted and all the other planets
is also in good position but as per Lal kitab
Ma,Ju,Su is debliated and remaining planets
are also not in good position(when we consider
first house as first rashi).

I consulted Vedic and Lalkitab astrologer and their
point of view is just opposite to each other.

Now my question is How the two system claim to be accurate
when the prediction is totally different.

My Suggestion:

When we make Birth chart according to Lal kitab we consider first
House as first rashi and predict afterward instead of that
If we move the rashi number 1 planets to house number 1 and
move all the planets according to that then I guess we can
overcome the contradiction I know this is not the rule but
atleast I am going to try this to see how the prediction is
comming.

Plz. post your suggestion it is urgent.

Regards
Ashok



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Thursday, March 26, 2009

Re: [astrostudents] Aspects in Lal-kitab and Tajik links.

Dear FRIENDS,
THIS SHORT NOTE I AM POSTING WITH A VIEW NOT TO CONTRADICT BUT EXPLAIN ASPECT SYSTEM IN ASTROLOGY:
1. TAJIC OR WESTERN ASPECT SYSTEM- WHENEVER ASPECTS ARE APPLIED ON BHAVA CHART
THEY HAVE TO BE ANGULAR IN NATURE . AS LALKITAS BASICALLY DEPEND ON BHAVA SYSTEM
ANGULAR ASPECTS ARE MORE USEFUL
2. PLANETARY ASPECTS - THESE ARE APPLICABLE ON ALL KIND OF CHARTS
3. SIGN ASPECTS- MOVABLE SIGNS ASPECT FIXED SIGNS AND VISA VERSE EXCEPT
  ADJACENT SIGNS . ALL DUAL SIGNS ASPECT EACH OTHER.
 Angular houses depend on Panphar houses and vica verse . If KARTA  IS NOT THEIR FOR WHOM
 WEALTH WILL BE USED.
APOKLIM HOUSES are  of the abstract nature as these represent effort level and are independent to other two set of angular houses.
This  is the basic principle behind sign aspect system. LALKITAB USES IT ,BUT WE FAIL TO NOTICE IT.
4. TRANSIT ASPECT- when any two sensitive points comes simultaneously in the influence of transiting planets.
   one feels strong results.
KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY WE ALWAYS USE  THESE FOUR SYSTEMS OF ASPECT PATTERNS.
regards,
 
G.K.GOEL
Ph: 09350311433
Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR
NEW DELHI-110 076
INDIA


From: PARDEEP KUMAR SHARMA <lalkitab_l@yahoo.co.in>
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 3 February, 2009 1:42:40 PM
Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Aspects in Lal-kitab and Tajik links.

Respected Vijay Goel ji
You have written a very good artical.it has helped me alot.Many many thanks.
pardeep sharma
Vijay Goel <goyalvj@gmail. com> wrote:
Dear Kulbir Bhai,

The aspect in Jaimini system does not have any connection with LK.
In my view aspects in Tajik system matches with lal-kitab to some extent.

In Tajik system : Reference Tajik Nilkanthi chapter 2nd sloke 9-13 (Dristi phal adhaya)

1) Any planet aspects 5,9 (trines) from other planet is called friendly aspect (Pratyaksh sneh dristi) and Lal-kitab also says similar aspect which is 1-5 and 9-1.

2) Any planet aspects 3,11 from other planet  is called secret friendly aspect (gupt sneh dristi).
Whereas in LK 11-1, 1-3 is called 'Achanak chot'. Here  'chot'  means wounded is like a Heart Break. (It means that some secret friendly relation was there.)

3) Any planet aspect 1,7 from other planet is called direct enemy aspect (prayaksh Ver dirsti)
but in Lal-kitab this aspect is not mentioned.

4) Any planet aspect 4,10 from other planet is Secret enemy aspect (gupt ver dristi).
In LK 1-4, 10-1 is termed as Dhoka dristi. 'Cheating' is  always done  by secret enemy, something like 'Vibhisan' to 'Ravan' in Ramayan.

5) Other aspect like 2,12,6,8, is called 'Udhasin' or NO aspect in Tajik, here it means that planets will have no affairs, to the other planets in 2,12,6,8 aspect.
It can have two meaning :
a) does not want to help (6,8) due to serious difference in thoughts and action.
b) not in position to help as they themself are dependent (2,12).

Whereas in LK 1-8, 6-1 is called 'Takrav ki dristi'', means that these planet will bring obstacles or inimical to each other.

Both LK and Tajik system is based on  yearly progression concept in different way.

Traditional aspect of planets are same in LK.
Jaimini Rasi dristi (sign aspect) is not at all touched in LK, so i am not discussing here.

Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
Jyotish Visharad (ICAS)
Jaipur
Mob. 09214502239.


Posted by: "kulbir bance" kulbirbance@ gmail.com   kulbirbains

Sun Feb 1, 2009 10:07 pm (PST)

Vijay ji,

thanx for this explanation. Kindly write a note on aspects
used in jaimani system. I have heard that they are somewhat akin to
lalkitab system.

Regards

kulbir

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