Wednesday, March 11, 2009

[astrostudents] Re: dharmi tewa

sir ji, i got your point. please keep enlighting us like this :)

Thanks heaps
respectfully
Jitin Syal

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>
> Jitin ji, u can read budh in 5, mars in 6, such natives have been said
> to be have greater powers like prediction prophesies etc. The point is
> to cultivate them and further know the limits. If such native says
> that sun will shine continously for 24 hrs in india. Such absurd
> claims cannot be entertained. To say such natives have an inherent
> gift. But conditions apply. Kulbir.
>
> On 3/11/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@...> wrote:
> > Respected kulbir ji pranam,
> >
> > First of all thanks for replying to my query
> > Secondly sir i know that dharmi tewa is not a blanket cover for immunity and
> > i never said that, rather i consider it as a blessing AND a huge
> > responsbility.
> >
> > Don't you think it's bit unfair where a normal person says something
> > (whether or not it comes true) doesn't have to bear any consequences for it,
> > whereas a person with dharmi tewa has to watch every time they open their
> > mouth??
> >
> > My concern was whether or not other paapi grah also give up their malefic
> > nature in this particular situation, which you have answered exceptionally
> > well.
> > Being a novice in the subject i can only learn these things from you, so
> > thank you once again for your guidance :)
> >
> > yours respectfully
> > Jitin syal
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jitin ji, every such statement has rider which we can call as
> >> "conditions apply" the dharmi condition can be natal or sometimes in
> >> varshphal. Agar papi grah paap chod dein to tewe wala nirwan sthithi
> >> me pahunch jaye. Grah papi nahi ho hon to phir bhi jatak galati ya
> >> paap kar jata hai. What is responsible for that. Dharmi tewe wale
> >> sabhi sant nahin hote. Grah jab bhi uch ya dharmi hon to jatak par
> >> unhein us condition me maintain karne ki zimmewari bhi zyada hoti hai
> >> aur amoman grah ko us halat me maintain karna zyada mushkil ho jata
> >> hai. Rahu ketu shani kitne grahon ke masnui hain yeh by itself paapi
> >> ya malefic effect na dein par baki ke grahon ko maintain karna bhi to
> >> zaruri hai. So dharmi tewa is no blanket cover giving immunities to
> >> the native. Rather it marks increased responsibility. Regards. Kulbir.
> >>
> >> On 3/9/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@> wrote:
> >> > Pranam shri prabhakar ji and all senior members,
> >> >
> >> > Sir while going through the dharmi tewa again there is one thing that i
> >> > found very interesting, as written in LK and further stated here by
> >> > yourself
> >> > "to aise tewe mein paap ya paapi dono ka hi bura asar na hoga ur sab
> >> > grah
> >> > dharmi hongey"
> >> > does that mean even if the tewa is becoming dharmi due to shani but rahu
> >> > ketu(paapi grah) will also do not harm (paap chod deinge) or vice versa?
> >> > please help me out here.
> >> >
> >> > many thanks
> >> > yours respectfully
> >> > Jitin Syal
> >> >
> >> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Yograj Prabhakar" <yr_prabhakar@>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear Jitin
> >> >>
> >> >> Before proceeding further, I would like to present the exact text in
> >> >> this regard from LK-1952 Page no. 43-44 under the heading Dharmi Greh
> >> >> for your kind perusal:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Paapi greh Saneechar Rahu Ketu teeno hi hain, Rahu aur Ketu khana
> >> >> number 4 mein paap chhodney ka chandar ke saamney halaf uthatey hain.
> >> >> Saneechar khana number 11 mein Brahaspat Guru ko hazir nazir samajhkar
> >> >> Rahu Ketu ke paida kiye gaye papon ka faisla karta hai. Yaani agar Rahu
> >> >> Ketu khana number 4 ya chandaar ke sath kisi bhi ghar hon aur (2)
> >> >> Sanichar khana number 11 ya Brahaspat ke sath kisi bhi ghar mein ho, to
> >> >> aise tewe mein paap ya paapi dono ka hi bura asar na hoga ur sab grah
> >> >> dharmi hongey. Ye sharat nahi ki paapi greah aisi halat mein baithey
> >> >> huye uttam phal zarur hi dengey. halaf sirf itna hai ki paap nahi
> >> >> karengey,"
> >> >>
> >> >> That means any of the following placemnts makes a chart a Dharmi Tewa
> >> >> i.e. a pious Chart:
> >> >>
> >> >> (1). Rahu in house no.4
> >> >> (2). Ketu in house no. 4
> >> >> (3). Rahu with Moon in any house
> >> >> (4). Ketu with Moon in any house
> >> >> (5). Saturn in house no. 11
> >> >> (6). Saturn with Jupiter in any house
> >> >>
> >> >> I look this scenarion from a different perspective. If you see this
> >> >> from
> >> >> a spiritual standpoint perhaps you will be able to know its true
> >> >> nature.
> >> >> Dharmi Tewa (a pious horoscope) is a great blessing. Kindly onesebe
> >> >> that
> >> >> a mere presence of a particularr planet or combination as per the
> >> >> detail
> >> >> given above can change the outcome the whole horoscope. Isnt it a
> >> >> blessing?
> >> >>
> >> >> Age of a native is normlly determined/seen by the position of Moon in
> >> >> the chart. but in case of a Dharmi Tewa it is seen/determined from the
> >> >> 11 house.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Umar ka faisala Saneechar Brahaspat waley tewe ke liye Kundli ke khana
> >> >> number 11 ke greh karengey. Aise tewe mein Drishti vaa upayo vagairah
> >> >> aam tewe se faraq par hongey , yaani khas khas khanon mein khas khas
> >> >> grehon hi maqarrah drishti hogi, jinki roo se faisla hoga."
> >> >> (LK-1941 Page no. 399)
> >> >>
> >> >> Another unique feature of a Dharmi Tewa is that evey house is under the
> >> >> Direct Drishti of a particular planet, e.g.
> >> >> 2nd House is under the direct drishti of Jupiter,
> >> >> 3rd house is under the direct Drishti of Marcury,
> >> >> 4th house is under the direct Drishti of Moon,
> >> >> 5th house is under the direct Drishti of Sun,
> >> >> 6th house is under the direct Drishti of Rahu,
> >> >> 8th house is under the direct Drishti of Mars,
> >> >> 10th house is under the direct Drishti of Satrun,
> >> >> 11th house is under the direct Drishti of Venus
> >> >> 12th house is under the direct drishti of Ketu.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dont you feel that the native has divine surveillance cum protection
> >> >> from almost every possible corner? This is not an ordinary Phenomenon
> >> >> my
> >> >> friend. After having such a great gift, the only thing required from
> >> >> the
> >> >> native's end is the strict discipline and self-restraint. Because any
> >> >> deviation from the right path may spoil everything.
> >> >>
> >> >> We, the Astrotudents Group believes that the native with Dharmi Tewa is
> >> >> a blessed rather a chosen one. As Once Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj ji wrote
> >> >> correctly that a person with Dharmi Tewa is sent to the earth with a
> >> >> cheque book having thousands of leaves signed by God, with the
> >> >> assurance
> >> >> that every cheque (of any amount) issued by him will be duly honoured.
> >> >> But on the last page, there is a line with words "Conditions Apply".
> >> >> And
> >> >> the condition is that evey amount withdrawn shall be debited to the
> >> >> natives account. So he must keep his debit-credit square all the time.
> >> >> I
> >> >> will try to describe this Debit-credit notion in the follwing lines.
> >> >>
> >> >> You have mentioned some really significant Characteristics of the
> >> >> Dharmi
> >> >> tewa, and I totally agree with you. You have wriiten:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. the person has a very simple living and very few hobbies or
> >> >> pass-time.
> >> >> 2. the native can never dare to do any harm to others.
> >> >> 3. always love to help others
> >> >> 4. usually loves drinking and fond of non-veg.
> >> >>
> >> >> I with your kind permission, would like to amend a little the
> >> >> aove-mentioned lines and addi a few more (these are my strictly my
> >> >> personal views):
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. the person Should have a very simple living but high thinking and
> >> >> must not waste his time in useless hobbies or pass-time.
> >> >> 2. The native must never try to harm anyone.
> >> >> 3. Should always try to help others
> >> >> 4. Must refrain from drinking and non-veg (Tamsik) food.
> >> >> 5. Should take a sound sleep. Sona (Gold) and Sona (Sleep) belongs to
> >> >> jupiter.
> >> >> 6. Should try to find a Guru in shape of a living human or an ideology
> >> >> .
> >> >> 7. Should try to have a spiritual background.
> >> >> 8. Should speak only when it is required.
> >> >> 9. Telling remedies to non-eligibles is like issuing checques from own
> >> >> account.
> >> >> 10.For keping the debit-credit square, a regular meditation etc. is a
> >> >> must.
> >> >> 11.Any illicit relations will be fatal.
> >> >> 12.Self-control is the best remedial measure for such persons.
> >> >>
> >> >> Would like to hear more from Gurujans in this regard.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sincerely
> >> >> Yograj Prabhakar
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > pranam all my seniors and gurujans.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i haven't seen much(if any at all) discussion on this topic. i know
> >> >> > that jupiter+saturn any where in chart, saturn in 11th,
> >> >> > moon+rahu/ketu anywhere in chart and rahu/ketu in 4th house makes
> >> >> > a 'dharmi tewa' or a pious chart.
> >> >> > but what is dharmi tewa? i mean why is it different from others?Even
> >> >> > while reading, analysing the chart and prescribing remedies dharmi
> >> >> > tewa changes the whole equation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i myself have jupiter+saturn in 5th and find few similarities between
> >> >> > other ppl with this combination.
> >> >> > 1. the person has a very simple living and very few hobbies or pass-
> >> >> > time.
> >> >> > 2. the native can never dare to do any harm to others.
> >> >> > 3. always love to help others
> >> >> > 4. usually loves drinking and fond of non-veg.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > but then again this is my view/conclusion(which might be wrong) from
> >> >> > 5-6 dharmi tewa i have seen, i am sure there are senior members in
> >> >> > this forum who have come across thousands of these charts and i very
> >> >> > kindly request these members to please share their knowledge with us
> >> >> > and let me and other keen learners understand this concept better.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > yours respectfully
> >> >> > jitin syal
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from my mobile device
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>

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