Wednesday, March 11, 2009

[astrostudents] Re: dharmi tewa

Respected kulbir ji pranam,

First of all thanks for replying to my query
Secondly sir i know that dharmi tewa is not a blanket cover for immunity and i never said that, rather i consider it as a blessing AND a huge responsbility.

Don't you think it's bit unfair where a normal person says something (whether or not it comes true) doesn't have to bear any consequences for it, whereas a person with dharmi tewa has to watch every time they open their mouth??

My concern was whether or not other paapi grah also give up their malefic nature in this particular situation, which you have answered exceptionally well.
Being a novice in the subject i can only learn these things from you, so thank you once again for your guidance :)

yours respectfully
Jitin syal

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>
> Jitin ji, every such statement has rider which we can call as
> "conditions apply" the dharmi condition can be natal or sometimes in
> varshphal. Agar papi grah paap chod dein to tewe wala nirwan sthithi
> me pahunch jaye. Grah papi nahi ho hon to phir bhi jatak galati ya
> paap kar jata hai. What is responsible for that. Dharmi tewe wale
> sabhi sant nahin hote. Grah jab bhi uch ya dharmi hon to jatak par
> unhein us condition me maintain karne ki zimmewari bhi zyada hoti hai
> aur amoman grah ko us halat me maintain karna zyada mushkil ho jata
> hai. Rahu ketu shani kitne grahon ke masnui hain yeh by itself paapi
> ya malefic effect na dein par baki ke grahon ko maintain karna bhi to
> zaruri hai. So dharmi tewa is no blanket cover giving immunities to
> the native. Rather it marks increased responsibility. Regards. Kulbir.
>
> On 3/9/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@...> wrote:
> > Pranam shri prabhakar ji and all senior members,
> >
> > Sir while going through the dharmi tewa again there is one thing that i
> > found very interesting, as written in LK and further stated here by yourself
> > "to aise tewe mein paap ya paapi dono ka hi bura asar na hoga ur sab grah
> > dharmi hongey"
> > does that mean even if the tewa is becoming dharmi due to shani but rahu
> > ketu(paapi grah) will also do not harm (paap chod deinge) or vice versa?
> > please help me out here.
> >
> > many thanks
> > yours respectfully
> > Jitin Syal
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Yograj Prabhakar" <yr_prabhakar@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Jitin
> >>
> >> Before proceeding further, I would like to present the exact text in
> >> this regard from LK-1952 Page no. 43-44 under the heading Dharmi Greh
> >> for your kind perusal:
> >>
> >> "Paapi greh Saneechar Rahu Ketu teeno hi hain, Rahu aur Ketu khana
> >> number 4 mein paap chhodney ka chandar ke saamney halaf uthatey hain.
> >> Saneechar khana number 11 mein Brahaspat Guru ko hazir nazir samajhkar
> >> Rahu Ketu ke paida kiye gaye papon ka faisla karta hai. Yaani agar Rahu
> >> Ketu khana number 4 ya chandaar ke sath kisi bhi ghar hon aur (2)
> >> Sanichar khana number 11 ya Brahaspat ke sath kisi bhi ghar mein ho, to
> >> aise tewe mein paap ya paapi dono ka hi bura asar na hoga ur sab grah
> >> dharmi hongey. Ye sharat nahi ki paapi greah aisi halat mein baithey
> >> huye uttam phal zarur hi dengey. halaf sirf itna hai ki paap nahi
> >> karengey,"
> >>
> >> That means any of the following placemnts makes a chart a Dharmi Tewa
> >> i.e. a pious Chart:
> >>
> >> (1). Rahu in house no.4
> >> (2). Ketu in house no. 4
> >> (3). Rahu with Moon in any house
> >> (4). Ketu with Moon in any house
> >> (5). Saturn in house no. 11
> >> (6). Saturn with Jupiter in any house
> >>
> >> I look this scenarion from a different perspective. If you see this from
> >> a spiritual standpoint perhaps you will be able to know its true nature.
> >> Dharmi Tewa (a pious horoscope) is a great blessing. Kindly onesebe that
> >> a mere presence of a particularr planet or combination as per the detail
> >> given above can change the outcome the whole horoscope. Isnt it a
> >> blessing?
> >>
> >> Age of a native is normlly determined/seen by the position of Moon in
> >> the chart. but in case of a Dharmi Tewa it is seen/determined from the
> >> 11 house.
> >>
> >> "Umar ka faisala Saneechar Brahaspat waley tewe ke liye Kundli ke khana
> >> number 11 ke greh karengey. Aise tewe mein Drishti vaa upayo vagairah
> >> aam tewe se faraq par hongey , yaani khas khas khanon mein khas khas
> >> grehon hi maqarrah drishti hogi, jinki roo se faisla hoga."
> >> (LK-1941 Page no. 399)
> >>
> >> Another unique feature of a Dharmi Tewa is that evey house is under the
> >> Direct Drishti of a particular planet, e.g.
> >> 2nd House is under the direct drishti of Jupiter,
> >> 3rd house is under the direct Drishti of Marcury,
> >> 4th house is under the direct Drishti of Moon,
> >> 5th house is under the direct Drishti of Sun,
> >> 6th house is under the direct Drishti of Rahu,
> >> 8th house is under the direct Drishti of Mars,
> >> 10th house is under the direct Drishti of Satrun,
> >> 11th house is under the direct Drishti of Venus
> >> 12th house is under the direct drishti of Ketu.
> >>
> >> Dont you feel that the native has divine surveillance cum protection
> >> from almost every possible corner? This is not an ordinary Phenomenon my
> >> friend. After having such a great gift, the only thing required from the
> >> native's end is the strict discipline and self-restraint. Because any
> >> deviation from the right path may spoil everything.
> >>
> >> We, the Astrotudents Group believes that the native with Dharmi Tewa is
> >> a blessed rather a chosen one. As Once Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj ji wrote
> >> correctly that a person with Dharmi Tewa is sent to the earth with a
> >> cheque book having thousands of leaves signed by God, with the assurance
> >> that every cheque (of any amount) issued by him will be duly honoured.
> >> But on the last page, there is a line with words "Conditions Apply". And
> >> the condition is that evey amount withdrawn shall be debited to the
> >> natives account. So he must keep his debit-credit square all the time. I
> >> will try to describe this Debit-credit notion in the follwing lines.
> >>
> >> You have mentioned some really significant Characteristics of the Dharmi
> >> tewa, and I totally agree with you. You have wriiten:
> >>
> >> 1. the person has a very simple living and very few hobbies or
> >> pass-time.
> >> 2. the native can never dare to do any harm to others.
> >> 3. always love to help others
> >> 4. usually loves drinking and fond of non-veg.
> >>
> >> I with your kind permission, would like to amend a little the
> >> aove-mentioned lines and addi a few more (these are my strictly my
> >> personal views):
> >>
> >> 1. the person Should have a very simple living but high thinking and
> >> must not waste his time in useless hobbies or pass-time.
> >> 2. The native must never try to harm anyone.
> >> 3. Should always try to help others
> >> 4. Must refrain from drinking and non-veg (Tamsik) food.
> >> 5. Should take a sound sleep. Sona (Gold) and Sona (Sleep) belongs to
> >> jupiter.
> >> 6. Should try to find a Guru in shape of a living human or an ideology .
> >> 7. Should try to have a spiritual background.
> >> 8. Should speak only when it is required.
> >> 9. Telling remedies to non-eligibles is like issuing checques from own
> >> account.
> >> 10.For keping the debit-credit square, a regular meditation etc. is a
> >> must.
> >> 11.Any illicit relations will be fatal.
> >> 12.Self-control is the best remedial measure for such persons.
> >>
> >> Would like to hear more from Gurujans in this regard.
> >>
> >> Sincerely
> >> Yograj Prabhakar
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > pranam all my seniors and gurujans.
> >> >
> >> > i haven't seen much(if any at all) discussion on this topic. i know
> >> > that jupiter+saturn any where in chart, saturn in 11th,
> >> > moon+rahu/ketu anywhere in chart and rahu/ketu in 4th house makes
> >> > a 'dharmi tewa' or a pious chart.
> >> > but what is dharmi tewa? i mean why is it different from others?Even
> >> > while reading, analysing the chart and prescribing remedies dharmi
> >> > tewa changes the whole equation.
> >> >
> >> > i myself have jupiter+saturn in 5th and find few similarities between
> >> > other ppl with this combination.
> >> > 1. the person has a very simple living and very few hobbies or pass-
> >> > time.
> >> > 2. the native can never dare to do any harm to others.
> >> > 3. always love to help others
> >> > 4. usually loves drinking and fond of non-veg.
> >> >
> >> > but then again this is my view/conclusion(which might be wrong) from
> >> > 5-6 dharmi tewa i have seen, i am sure there are senior members in
> >> > this forum who have come across thousands of these charts and i very
> >> > kindly request these members to please share their knowledge with us
> >> > and let me and other keen learners understand this concept better.
> >> >
> >> > yours respectfully
> >> > jitin syal
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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>

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