Monday, November 10, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: query

Respected Umesh Ji,
we have seen such a detailed reply from your side after a long time.
We wish you keep on blessing the students of group with you
experience.
Thanks on behalf of all the group members
Regards
Nirmal
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Umesh Sharma"
<mudit982001@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Jatin
> I think you are not correct. Because Book Says
> 1. Ab Budh ka khali chakar Surya ki sahayta lekar Shukar ko
barbad
> karega.
> 2. Aurat (Shukar) ke teve main tino grah ekathe kisi bhi ghar
main
> hon aur Ladka(Ketu part of Shukar) paida hone par aur Mard
( Shukar) ke
> teve main tino grah ekathe kisi bhi ghar main hon aur Ladaki (Budh)
ke
> paida hone par " Estri kisi bhi na kisi tarah se barbaad ya beghar
> ho jaye ya sharir ke sadmon se dukhi hogi".
>
> Yahan sirf Shukar par hi gaj gir rahi hey Budh par nahin.
>
>
>
> Mashnoi Grah
>
> Esmain koi shak nahi hey ki Budh+Shukar= Surya, Surya
+Shukar=Jupiter,
> Surya +Budh = Mangal Nek hey
>
> Par brother en mashnoi grahon ka concept bilkul alagh hey. Lalkitab
ke
> mutabik Suraj ki ashiayaon main Sehat ka kahin bhi jikar nahi hey
uske
> liye Chandar ko mana hey lekin Mashnoi Suraj Sehat ka swami hey.
Esliye
> Jab bhi jatak ki sehat mandi ho to mashnoi surya ka bhi sahara liya
ja
> sakta hey. Esi parkar anya mashnoi grahon ka vivechan kiya ja sakta
hey.
>
>
>
> Surya + Shukar= Khali Hwai Brihspat= Santan ki paidaish ka malik=
> ketu
>
> Surya+budh=Magal Nek= santaan ko jivit rakhane ka swami= Ketu ( Book
> Says- Ab Girhasthi halat ka faisla Ketu par hoga)
>
> Budh+Shukar= Surya= Sehat ka swami = Surya es yog main pahley se hi
> hey=( Book says- Estri dhan aur Sharir ke sadmaon se dukhi hogi)
>
> Vese Prabhakar ji ne jo baat kahi hey usko aap aam jindgi main jod
kar
> dekhaingey to aapko unki kahi baat ekdum samajh main aa jayegi. Es
> combination main budh dono ka mitar hey aur vah jyada takatwar
Suraj ka
> sath de raha hey kyonki Budh bhi Suraj se takat lekar takatwar hona
> chahta hey kyonki uski takat Shukar se kam hey-
>
> Humari aam jindgi main bhi to yehi sab ho raha hey. Har aadmi power
ke
> pichey bhag raha hey. Ye ek prakrtik cheez hai.
>
> Chota munh aur badi baat lagey to khashma karain. Jo muze samajh
aaya
> vah aapse share kiya. Galti to kisio se bhi ho sakati hey main uska
> Aapvaad nahin.
>
>
> Thanks to all
>
> Regards
>
> Umesh Sharma
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@>
> wrote:
> >
> > respected prabhakar ji in regards to what you explained below i
would
> > like to clarify something.you have mentioned that mercury will
take
> > sun's side and would destroy venus(wife), but isn't it true that
> > sun+venus+mercury destroys mercury(daughters, sisters etc.)? so
that
> > would mean that sun instead of taking out it's enemity on venus it
> > would destroy mercury.
> >
> > please clarify this for me as i am bit lost due to my limited
> > knowledge and understanding.
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Yograj Prabhakar
> > yr_prabhakar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Jatin
> > >
> > > I would like to contribute my two cents In the present
discussion
> > of Sun+Mer+Ven combination,There are three planets involved namely
> > sun, Mercury and Venus.� Everybody knows that under this trio
> > Mercury will join the Sun and they both will harm Venus. But the
> > question is why Mercury prefers to go with Sun to harm Venus
instad
> > of being later's friend? For that, we have to see the points table
> > under the Budh ka Bhed (secret of Mercury). Under this table,
points
> > allocated for the planets in question are, Sun -� 9, Venus - 7
and
> > Mercury - 4. We are well aware that Mercury has a nature/habit of
> > Ganga Gaye Ganga Ram, Yanmuna Gaye Yamuna dass, This very
> > Characteristic of Mercury indicates how clever this eunuch planet
is.
> > Since Sun is more powerful than Venus, consequently the clever
> > Mercury decides to go with 9 point strong sun instead of 7 point
> > strong Venus.
> > >
> > > The concept of Masnooyi or artificial planets is a simple method
> > devised by Pundit ji to know the true nature of a planet. The
enigma
> > of divisions,sub-divisions and sub-sub-devisions invented by some
of
> > our learned matesis nothing but a futile and lumbering arithmetcal
> > excercise. You can probably "make" all the 9 planets from a single
> > planet or a combination by using this bizarre process (isnt if
> > funny?).
> > >
> > > Please remember, that simplicity and candor is the soul of this
> > great scripture, so dont get confused and keep it simple and
> > straightforward. But, if you too believe in the above mentioned
"make
> > and break" division, sub-division and sub-sub-division juggernaut
-
> > God bless you.
> > >
> > > Have a nice day
> > > Yograj Prabhakar
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@ wrote:
> > > From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@
> > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] query
> > > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 3:47 PM
> > >
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> > > Dear Jatin Ji,
> > >
> > > In my opinion, This is soup made by few of fellow friends in
which
> > you
> > >
> > > are searching the too much but find nothing. First of all we
have to
> > >
> > > follow the basic rules of the system. Masnooyi is one of the
rule of
> > >
> > > the system. The rule for sun as far as I remember is that
> > >
> > > Sun suppress the planet who is posited with him. In case of
three
> > >
> > > planets if one of the planet is friend and other is enemy of
sun,
> > then
> > >
> > > Sun will try to destroy his friend or transfer the bad efect on
his
> > >
> > > friend.
> > >
> > > Now coming to Masnooyi.Some of friends made algebra of this
concept
> > >
> > > try to solve it mathemetically by putting so many notions that
they
> > >
> > > themselves stuck themselves in this algebra.I term them a
Postmortem
> > >
> > > astrologers who try to justify any event by hook and crook.
> > >
> > > Masnuyi have different type of effect as compare to Pakka
Planet.
> > >
> > > Masnuyi is the concept used for the purpose of upaya. as far as
me
> > is
> > >
> > > concerned I am not in favour of this algebric justification
system.
> > >
> > > Dear Jatin, if one try to keep focus on "what is written in the
> > book" confusion will not touch him.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Nirmal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/8/08, Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > sir
> > >
> > > > another combination can make out from sun+mer+venus ie sun
+venus
> > is JUPITER
> > >
> > > > tht becomes jupiter & mercury ithink so the concept is
confusing
> > all learned
> > >
> > > > members
> > >
> > > > can any one solve ths query whether SUN+MERC+VENUS is sun &
sun
> > or any other
> > >
> > > > combination can be made i dnt know
> > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > From: Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > > Subject: [astrostudents] query
> > >
> > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > >
> > > > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 6:50 AM
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> > > > dear members
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> > > > i am learner of lal kitab
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> > > > my query is
> > >
> > > > sir
> > >
> > > > is it true
> > >
> > > > that SUN + MERCURY + VENUS is DOUBLE SUN
> > >
> > > > but bcoz SUN + MERCURY = Nek Mangal
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> > > > and MERCURY + VENUS is SUN
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> > > > whether it is nek MARS + VENUS
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