Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: query

dear Friends;

Nirmal ji is right that the masnui concept of the planets is for
finding out a remedy. When normal given upayas do not help the
person, then one may go in for masnui concept of the planets and try
to find out which remedy in the form of strengthening or weakening
of one of the components under masnui concept shall be helpful.This
was being used very rarely and it has nothing to do in finding out
Varshphal of a tewa.

It is unfortunate that every thing is being tried to be proven under
the guise of logic on the masnui concept. LK men jo jahan haisa
likha hai vaisa hi read kar ke practice men lana chahiye.

best wishes;
kiranjit

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Yograj Prabhakar
<yr_prabhakar@...> wrote:
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> Dear Jatin
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> I would like to contribute my two cents In the present discussion
of Sun+Mer+Ven combination,There are three planets involved namely
sun, Mercury and Venus.Â Everybody knows that under this trio
Mercury will join the Sun and they both will harm Venus. But the
question is why Mercury prefers to go with Sun to harm Venus instad
of being later's friend? For that, we have to see the points table
under the Budh ka Bhed (secret of Mercury). Under this table, points
allocated for the planets in question are, Sun -Â 9, Venus - 7 and
Mercury - 4. We are well aware that Mercury has a nature/habit of
Ganga Gaye Ganga Ram, Yanmuna Gaye Yamuna dass, This very
Characteristic of Mercury indicates how clever this eunuch planet
is. Since Sun is more powerful than Venus, consequently the clever
Mercury decides to go with 9 point strong sun instead of 7 point
strong Venus.
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> The concept of Masnooyi or artificial planets is a simple method
devised by Pundit ji to know the true nature of a planet. The enigma
of divisions,sub-divisions and sub-sub-devisions invented by some of
our learned matesis nothing but a futile and lumbering arithmetcal
excercise. You can probably "make" all the 9 planets from a single
planet or a combination by using this bizarre process (isnt if
funny?).
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> Please remember, that simplicity and candor is the soul of this
great scripture, so dont get confused and keep it simple and
straightforward. But, if you too believe in the above
mentioned "make and break" division, sub-division and sub-sub-
division juggernaut - God bless you.
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> Have a nice day
> Yograj Prabhakar
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> --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...> wrote:
> From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...>
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] query
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 3:47 PM
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> Dear Jatin Ji,
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> In my opinion, This is soup made by few of fellow friends in which
you
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> the system. The rule for sun as far as I remember is that
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> Sun suppress the planet who is posited with him. In case of three
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> planets if one of the planet is friend and other is enemy of sun,
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> Now coming to Masnooyi.Some of friends made algebra of this concept
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Postmortem
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> astrologers who try to justify any event by hook and crook.
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> Masnuyi have different type of effect as compare to Pakka Planet.
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> Masnuyi is the concept used for the purpose of upaya. as far as me
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> concerned I am not in favour of this algebric justification system.
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> Dear Jatin, if one try to keep focus on "what is written in the
book" confusion will not touch him.
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> Regards
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> On 11/8/08, Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > another combination can make out from sun+mer+venus ie
sun+venus is JUPITER
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> > tht becomes jupiter & mercury ithink so the concept is confusing
all learned
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> > can any one solve ths query whether SUN+MERC+VENUS is sun & sun
or any other
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> > combination can be made i dnt know
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> > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com>
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> > From: Jattin Kapila <jattinkapila@ yahoo.com>
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> > Subject: [astrostudents] query
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> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
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> > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 6:50 AM
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