Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: rahu 1st house

dear jatin kapila ji,

i was almost certain that sign plays no importance in lal kitab but
couldn't get over the fact that, why the word "sign" was being
mentioned in lal kitab especially with rahu in 1st.
i do however thank you for clearing my doubt and sharing your
experienced thoughts with me. you certainly have helped me understand
the concept better and in time like these i wonder, what would i do
without a senior member like yourself.

thank you for en-lighting us.

also i am not as fortunate as you to have 1941 hindi version by shri
yograj prabhakar ji(and meet him personally). i will deem it a great
favour if you can somehow organise to send me a copy in adelaide
(australia). i will pay for the expenses beared.

thank you.

yours respectfully
jitin syal

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Jattin Kapila
<jattinkapila@...> wrote:
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> all learned members
> respected prbhakar ji, nirmal ji,
> dear jitin syal,
> hi
> I hv an Goswami ji book tht book says rahu in first house Raashi
Phal ka
> so tht means not an Sign effect dont mix sign/Raashi of vedic
astrology with Lal kitab Raashi phal.plz just read Armaan , farmaan
And 1941 by yograj prbhakar before 1952.To understand Raashi phal and
Grah phal.
> thanx
> learner of lal kitab
> jattin.
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> --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...> wrote:
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> From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...>
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: rahu 1st house
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 4:14 PM
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> Dear Jatin Ji,
> Though I have not the tralslation/ treatise of Goswami Ji Book. But
in my opinion it is a translation error or it is also possible that
treatise has been written with preset mind of traditional astrology
Rashis(signs) in lalkitab are reffered as the Ghars of Planets not
pakka ghar. Like Aries(mesh) is the ghar of Mars, Vrishabh is of
venus Mithun is of Mercury.Rahu is always Ucha in ghars of Mercury
and neccha in ghars of Brihaspati. Gemini and Kanya are ghars of
Mercury that is why Rahu behave like uchha in these house.. Planet 's
effect in a house influenced by the interrelationship with other
planets who are having any type influence in that house by virtue of
its ghar, pakka ghar, uchha or neecha rashi.
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> You are right. Nakshatras and Sighns are not used here as used in
traditional astrology.
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> Regards
> Nirmal
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@
yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
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> pranam all gurujans,
> it's unfortunate and inconvenient not being able to read urdu hence
> relying on other sources, however i'll do my best to source my
> query/question.
> on page 46 of english edition LK(1952) by Pt. madhav goswami ji it
> says rahu in 1st house is of sign effect, now my concern/query was
> whether rahu behaves as per the sign posited in, as it is obvious
in
> lal kitab that we don't consider sign(rashi) anywhere so why does
the
> text states sign then?(mind you nothing against a learned
individual
> like Pt. goswami ji)
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> i was almost certain that Pt.joshi ji gave no weightage to
nakshatras
> and rashis in lal kitab but wasn't sure, or i thought may be it's
> just me not being able to understand it properly and as it turns
out
> later was the case.
> i thank you all for clearing my doubt, atleast now i know for sure
> that i only to need to concentrate on the houses rather than the
> signs which they occupy.
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> yours respectfully
> jitin syal
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> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "kapatjal" <kapatjal@>
wrote:
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> > dear Friends,
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> > As i understand,LK system does not give any importance to the
> signs
> > as given in tne prepared horoscopes by vedic pundits; in fact
signs
> > from 1 to 12 are fixed in the 12 houses of the horoscope. This is
> > the basics of LK astrology. So there is no qustion of there being
> > Rahu or any other planet in any given sign for consideraiton of
the
> > planet as par LK system.
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> > with best wishes;
> > sincerely,
> > kiranjit--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, bhupesh sharma
> > <bhupeshastro@> wrote:
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> > > Dear Jitin Ji
> > > " Rahu in 1st shows result as per the sign it is posited in "
> > > As you mentioned about Rahu Khna No 1 in LK 1952 English
> Version ,
> > It must be a serious mistake because there is no mention of sign
> > even in the LK1952 , LK Farman 1939 , and in the LK 1942 .
> > >
> > > Pandit Bhupesh Shharma
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> > > --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@>
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: rahu 1st house
> > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 1:48 PM
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> > > Dear Jitin
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> > > You have written:
> > > // 'rahu in 1st shows result as per the sign it is posited in'//
> > >
> > > My dear friend, there is no mention of Sign (Rashi) in the
> chapter
> > Rahu khana number 1 in Lal kitab-1952. I think there is some
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> > mistake in the book/chapter you have mentioned .
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Yograj Prabhakar
> > >
> > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82"
> > <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:
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> > > > pranam all gurujans,
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> > > > i just thought we haven't discussed effect of any planet in a
> > house for
> > > > a long time now so might as well start with rahu in 1st.
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> > > > i read in english version LK 1952(by pt. madhav goswami ji)
> > that 'rahu
> > > > in 1st shows result as per the sign it is posited in'
> > > > does that mean we take the sign into consideration when
> deriving
> > > > results for rahu in this house? for eg. rahu in gemini would
be
> > > > beneficial and so on........
> > > >
> > > > i also request everyone to kindly share their knowledge in
> > regards to
> > > > the above situation.
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > yours respectfully
> > > > jitin syal
> > > >
> > >
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