Astrostudents-Group Discussions: Re: [astrostudents] Re: Plz Help

Respected Umesh Ji

Message 377 states

Khana number 1 aur khana no 2 ke 1941 ke edition me se kuchh chhand
hain jo ki samajh mein nahin aa
> rahe hain. Kripya Aap in ka tarjuma kar dee jiye.
>
> KHANA. 1.
TAKHT PAR BAITHA NAR GRAH RAJA, DOOSRO SE VEH ISTRI HAI.

SAATVEN IS KEE AURAT BETI, BUDH , SHUKKAR DO BAITHTI HAIN,
ANS:- In My Opinion:-
Guru, Ravi(pakkey ghar ka swami) aur Mangal( rashi ka malik) ye tino
Nar grah kahlatey hain agar akeley akeley bethey hon to apni nar grah
ki tasir rakhtey hue teve ki grah chal ko prabhavit kartey hain. Lekin
ek se jyada yani ki Suraj+mangal ya suraj+guru aadi jab ek se jyada
grah beth jaayen to unki taasir main fark aa jata hey. Esko aap es
tarah se samjheyn ki nar grah agar jatak key Aatma+Sharir+khoon ke
sambhandh daro par asar kartey hain to Stri grah ki taasir hone par ye
apna asar teve valey ki mata ki hesiyat va Stri jese darjavaliyon par
asar karengey.
Saatvain.........
Satvan ghar budh(bahan-beti)+Shukar(Aurat) ka pakka ghar hey ye jahir
kiya hey.
> JYAADA EK SE GHAR PEHLE MEIN NAR GRAH ISTRI HOTI HAIN.
> 2 SE JYAADA GHAR SAATVEN MEIN ISTRI GRAH NAR HOTI HAI.
Ans:- Eska uttar uppar ke uttar main hi sapashat hey.
> JO GINTI AGAR HO RAJA ALAG RAYE KAMETI HOTI HAI.
> JAHIRA BESHAK TEEN HI BAITHE GINTI CHAAR KI HOTI HAI.
Ans:- in this regard in my opinion:
Lalkitab ke usoolon se jab bhi koi grah kisi bhi ghar main bethta hey
to vah grah jiska ki voh pakka ghar hey apna asar bhi rakhta hey. esi
ko choutha grah mana gaya hey.Esi usool se upay bhi banaye jatey hain.
> AKELA PEHLE BAHUT HO SAATVEN GRAH PHAL RAASHI HOTI HAI
> ULAT AGAR HO TEVE BAITHE JAD SAATVEN KI KADTI HAI.
Ans:- Es baat ka to aap khud hi apney ek message main khulasa kar
chukey hain.
> RAVI BUDH SHANI AUR MANGAL TEVE KAHIN BHEE ISKE BAITHE HON
> PHAL VAISE HI GHAR PEHLE KE US TEVE MAIN HOTE HON.
Ans:- bhed hey
>
> Kripya lal rang vale chhand ko vistaar se samjhaayen. Yeh group aap
ka aabbhari hoga

There are two line which are different but answer given in message 377 is same.These are

i) TAKHT PAR BAITHA NAR GRAH RAJA, DOOSRO SE VEH ISTRI HAI.
ii) JYAADA EK SE GHAR PEHLE MEIN NAR GRAH ISTRI HOTI HAIN

In first line

it is said that Male planet sitiing on Takht is female for others while

in second line it is said that

If there are more than one planet in first house then there effect changed to female.

Both the lines are contradictory. First line states that any male planet sitting in first house is female for others and second line said that the planet will changed to female.

There is a locuna left in first line which is not seen by the answering member . I want to bring this to the notice of the group . Please have a patience look at line

" Takht pe Baitha -- easy to understand

Nar grah raja-- Again very easy to grasp

Next line is very crucial in my point of view which I cannot understand.

"Doosron se veh istri hai-- who is doosra here and who is pehla

Learned members please put more light on it.

Yours

Yogesh

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Umesh Ji
I accept my mistake.I take my words back. Please Dont take otherwise.
I wrote the lines in lighter sense.
You feel hurted.I am really sorry.

Regards
Nirmal
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Umesh Sharma"
<mudit982001@...> wrote:
>
>
> Respected Nirmal ji,
>
> Bahut dukh hua ye jaan kar ki aap samjhatey hain ki " main aap sabka
> test le raha hoon" , meri koshish to yeh thi ki hum sab mil kar ek
> healthy or gyan se bhari ek Topic ko shuru kartey, parntoo aap to
niyat
> par hi shak karne lagey. Aap kya samjhtey hain ki main ye jataney ki
> koshish main hoon ki es group main jo members hain main un sab se
jyada
> janta hoon. Aap shayad yeh nahin jantey ki mainey aap longon se hi
bahut
> kuch sikha hey. Res. Prabhakar ji, Kulbeer ji and so many jo es
kitab
> ki kya knowledge rakhte hain kya inse sikhney ka huc nahi hey? Jo
Pavan
> khera ka jwab hai kya vo bilkul sahi hey ya hum usko aur bhi
analysis
> nahi kar saktey? Sir, Ese aap anytha na lain, maine to es Asha ke
sath
> yeh likha tha ki members discution ke liye aagey aayengey aur es
group
> main phir vahi purani shuruaat ho sakegi jiske liye yeh group jana
jata
> hey. Chalo is swal ko chod dain aur koi chaand ya topic le lete
hain ,
>
> Sir, ek baat yeh hey ki Main kya aur meri aukat kya jo aap longon ka
> test loon, Pahley main puri kitab to pad loon. Agar aap kahaingey to
> phir discuss kartey hain.
>
>
> Thanks/regards
>
>
> Umesh Sharma.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj"
> <nirbhar@> wrote:
> >
> > Respected Umesh Ji,
> > Namaskaar,
> > Aap Hum bachhon kaa test ley rahe ho. Vaisey ye sawal aaj se kayi
saal
> > pehley is group mein discuss huaa thaa, tab hamaarey aap jaisey
hee ek
> > lalkitab premi aur uskey bahut badey sevadar ney is kaa hul nikala
> > tha. aap is kaa hul message number 377 mein dekh saktey hain.
> > Regards
> > Nirmal
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Umesh Sharma" mudit982001@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Respected Sir,
> > > I do not able to understand these lines, so i request to all to
help
> me
> > > The book(1941 Edition Khana no.1) says
> > > 1. " Jyada Ek se Ghar pahley main, Nar Grah Estri hoti hey,
> > > Do se jyada ghar Satvain main, Estri grah Nar hoti hey"
> > > 2. "Ginti magar ho Raja Alheda, Rai comettee hoti hey,
> > > Jahira beshak tin ho baithain, Ginti char ki hoti hey"
> > > I. Who is effected when male planet change his gender in Female?
> > > II. Which is the forth planet, if three planets as Example
> > > Sun+Merc.+Venus in Ist house?
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> >
> > > Regards
> > >
> >
> > > Umesh Sharma
> > >
> >
>