Friday, November 07, 2008

[astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN


Dear Shri Bharadwaj ji and Shri Prabhakarji,

Let me clear my stand on this. I have not named any personality as being
owner of these multiple ids. Neither I know who is the owner and neither
did I make efforts for finding the same. Pt.Bhooshan Priyaji, I do not
know him and have never interacted with him. I just know that he owns a
Lal kitab forum, of whch probably i too may be a member, but have never
visited more than once.

I just know this much as having experienced and being a aggrieved hurt
party, that these multiples ids, did create a lot of trouble in all
jyotish forums with their evil intentions portrayed in every mail,
projected trough the contents of their postings.

( 1) Dharamveer dahiya
(2) Pardeep Kapoor
(3) AmIt sood
(4) Ranbir Tokas
(5) Narendra Juneja
(6) Roopak Rastogi

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj"
<nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Prabhakar Ji & Bhaskar Ji,
>
> I missed lot of group activities because of my job requirements.
>
> I had few telephonic chats with Pt.Upadhyaye. He is very learned man.I
know
> he do the practice in the name of Pt. Bhooshan Priya. I doubt that
such a
> learned man can do such types of activities like duplicate identities.
>
> Regarding Bhuvan Vashishta & duplicates Party, they are the mischief
> mongers. Create Hinderance in normal discussions. These are the
'Barsati
> Mendaks" comes out of hibernation occasionally. Let us pray to GOD
that they
> come to right track.
>
> We have already taken steps to curb such activities. Taking part in
> Discussion is allowed only to the members whoc had given their
telephone
> numbers or otherwise known to any one of the moderator.
>
> regards
>
> Nirmal
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Yograj Prabhakar
yr_prabhakar@...wrote:
>
> > Respected Bhaskar ji,
> >
> > I am more hurt than surprised to hear all this, that too from a
> > prominent personality like you. Right from the day one, We were
aware
> > that he is using multiple Ids, but the quantum of these fake Id's
> > really shocked me. In spite of his anti old school (or perhaps anti
> > Punjabi?) stance, I along with many other Astrostudents members
> > continued to regard him as a learned old man serving the great Lal
> > kitab selflessly. I still believe that his contribution over the
> > internet is second to none. But the way he used multiple screen ID's
> > to prove his point is really painful especially for a student like
me.
> >
> > With heavy heart
> > Yograj Prabhakar
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Bhaskar" rajiventerprises@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > For those who are not aware -
> > >
> > > All These ids have wrecked havoc on at least 7-8 Jyotish forums
since
> > > last one year, and have spat venom thrugh these ids, created
> > > differences, abused many, been instrumental in making many good
members
> > > leave the forums, banning many other good astrologers, and
destroying
> > > the peace and divine aura of many a good forums.
> > >
> > > The owner of these ids will certainly be punished by Nature in
time to
> > > come.
> > >
> > > Bhaskar.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "sdrkirti" <sdrkirti@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Respectable kalsi ji
> > > >
> > > > I bet, he will never come forward to attend any such confidence.
Very
> > > > recently, he as Satpaul khurana when challenged, ran away from
ancient
> > > > astrology group and never came back. This guy is burning his
night
> > > > oil to project himself as the only intelligent Lal kitabist in
the
> > > > world nd prove others as big fools by using fake IDs of Trivedi,
> > > > vashishta, Tyagi, Khurana, Raheja, juneja, miglani, Gill and
dozens
> > > > more on the internet. His anti Punjabi feeling is also an open
secret,
> > > > he with his various avtatars wont miss any chance to let the
punjabi
> > > > LK scholars down. for your eyes only I am presenting some of
other
> > > > avatars of "Guru" Bhooahan Priya:
> > > >
> > > > (1)Dharamveer dahiya
> > > > (2)Pardeep Kapoor
> > > > (3)AmIt sood
> > > > (4)Ranbir Tokas
> > > > (5)Narendra Juneja
> > > > (6)Roopak Rastogi
> > > >
> > > > In spite of everything he is still not stopping as it is right
said
> > > > that old habits die hard. His avatars are doing their work of
fooling
> > > > innocent public in full swing. Even today (05/11/2008) he raised
a
> > > > question as respected Gill saheb and answered as guru Vatun ji
(khud
> > > > hi guru khud hi chela) Now expect some mails of Wah-Wahi from
his
> > > > other Avatars in the evening, the same old
routine-bravo!!!!!!!!. What
> > > > a way to prove your point. He declared Kheti-baadi ka sazo saman
> > > > (equipments) as venus- waah ji waah. Agriculrual equipments
mostly
> > > > made of iron belongs to Venus? God bless this "SUPER LITERATE"
scholar
> > > > who always label others as semi-literates.
> > > >
> > > > Have a nice day
> > > > Dr. Kirti Sharma
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Shivdev Kalsi"
> > > > shivdev.kalsi@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Respected Members,
> > > > >
> > > > > It is "Aape Guru Chela". mean Me is Guru and Me is Follower.
It is
> > > > amazing,
> > > > > a person who donot know the basic script of the Lalkitab, is
writing
> > > > > treatise on it and telling others about the history of this
book.It
> > > > is like
> > > > > a person like me who donot know Sanskrit and try to bring my
> > > > theories about
> > > > > the Hora shastra and declaring that shastra wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > I Invite Mr. Bhoosan Priya and his Avtars to come in a joint
> > > conference
> > > > > about Lalkitab. and discuss it there in person. He can fixup
the
> > > > venue and I
> > > > > request Prabhakar ji,Nirmal ji, Kondal Ji and others to attend
that
> > > > > conference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:26 PM, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pt.Luxmi Rattan Shukla jee kitna sahi likha ki:-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai,
aur ye
> > > > logon
> > > > > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in
logon
> > > > ka 5
> > > > > > point agenda hai:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > > > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko
bhramit
> > > karna,
> > > > > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > > > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki
bat ko
> > > > galat
> > > > > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > > > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur
par
> > > project
> > > > > > karna.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jab yeh log apni koshish mein kamyaab nahi ho rahe theiy tab
in
> > > > logo ne
> > > > > > apna ek group banaya aur usko chalane ke liye naqli naam se
> > > > (ids)khud hee
> > > > > > member ban gaye aur khud hee swal jawab dene lag gaye aur
woh bhee
> > > > > > manghadant jiska ki , group jo LAL KITAB ke naam par thaa
aur
> > > > jawab/swal
> > > > > > ka LAL KITAB ke sathh tallouq kum hee hua karta thaa,
genuine
> > > > members bhee
> > > > > > usko sahi maan baithey aur unko kitna fayda panhuncha ya
nuksan
> > > > iska koi
> > > > > > vivran nahi hai.agar yeh log LAL KITAB ke naam par group na
> > > banatey to
> > > > > > shayaad LAL KITAB ke premi inke member nahi bante aur yeh
unko
> > > > gumrah nahi
> > > > > > kar patey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BURAI JAB BHEE BURAI KE ROOP MEIN SAHMNE AYEGI USKO
PEHCHANANA
> > > > ASAAN HOTA
> > > > > > HAI,ISS LIYE BURAI HAMESHA HEE ACHHAI KA MUKHOUTA AURH KAR
SAHMNE
> > > > AATEE
> > > > > > HAI, JIS SE USKO PEHCHANANA KATHIN HOTA HAI.ISS LIYE *RAVAN
*KO
> > > > BHEE SADHU
> > > > > > KA VESH DHARAN KARNA PADA JIS SE *SITA* JEE BHEE DHOKHA KHA
GAYEE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Issi asool par woh log bhee chal rahe hain, lekin woh log
(ek ya
> > > ek se
> > > > > > zyada)yeh bhul gaye ki akhir mein VIJAY sirf sachai ki hoti
hai.
> > > iski
> > > > > > udharan ek nahi hazaron mil jayengi. iss liye mera unn logo
se
> > > > nimrata sahit
> > > > > > nivedan hai ki woh sachai ka sath dein na ki galat hathon
mein
> > > > apne aap ko
> > > > > > sounpe. apne gyan ka (LAL KITAB ka jitna gyan hai ) sahi
istemal
> > > > kar ke
> > > > > > logo ka aur khud ka bhala karrein.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mahajan
> > > > > > --- In
astrostudents@yahoogroups.com<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Luxmi Rattan Shukla
> > > > > > <luxmirattanshukla@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Respected Mudit ji, apne bilkul sahi kaha hai aur main
apse
> > > > poori tarah
> > > > > > se sehmat hoon, ek badi prasiddh kahawat hai ki jab baaj
khamosh
> > > > ho jatey
> > > > > > hain tab totey shor machaney lag jatey hai. Ap sab purane
log pata
> > > > nahi kyon
> > > > > > gehri nidraa min leen ho gaye hain. 2003 se lekar 2005 tak
kya
> > > badhiya
> > > > > > discussion huya karti thi old group mein. Ap, Bhatia jee,
lalkitbi
> > > > jee,
> > > > > > prabhakar jee, kulbeer ji, Iqbal jee, Anshev jee etc. kitni
uttam
> > > > batein
> > > > > > bataya kartey the. Kitni khul kar debate huya karti thi
ek-ek
> > > > point par.
> > > > > > Pata nahi kyon ap sab log chup ho gaye aur doosrey logon ne
darzan
> > > > darzan
> > > > > > nakli naam rakh kar budhu banane ka silsila shuru kar diya.
tabhi
> > > se
> > > > > > standard ki discussion honi band ho gayi hai. Ab to sab log
apni
> > > > apni dafli
> > > > > > aur apna apna raag alap rahe hain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai,
aur
> > > > ye logon
> > > > > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in
logon
> > > > ka 5
> > > > > > point agenda hai:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > > > > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko
bhramit
> > > karna,
> > > > > > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > > > > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre
ki bat
> > > > ko galat
> > > > > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > > > > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur
par
> > > > project
> > > > > > karna.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apke sahit sabhi purane khiladiyon se anurodh hai ki neend
se
> > > > jagiye aur
> > > > > > jo log is vidya ko prapat karna chahte hain unki sahayta ke
liye
> > > > aage ayiye.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With respect
> > > > > > > Pt. Lumxi Rattan Shukla
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Umesh Sharma mudit982001@ wrote:
> > > > > > > From: Umesh Sharma mudit982001@
> > > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON
> > > SE
> > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > To:
astrostudents@yahoogroups.com<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 4:56 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Members,
> > > > > > > No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
> > > > > > > Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not
participate in
> > > > group, we
> > > > > > are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are
seeing.
> > > My
> > > > > > suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give
answer to
> > > > those
> > > > > > peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all go for
make
> > > > much more
> > > > > > to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and
share the
> > > > knowledge.
> > > > > > An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
> > > > > > > I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge
of
> > > > English plz
> > > > > > do not go for my errors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Umesh Sharma
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82"
> > > > <jitinsyal82@ ...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt.
> > > > ashant, that
> > > > > > > > lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was
"given"
> > > by
> > > > > > > > someone during their service years in army.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji
himself,
> > > > Pt. ji
> > > > > > > > told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty
obvious who
> > > said
> > > > > > > > what!!)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone
BUT Pt.
> > > ji
> > > > > > > > could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met
prabhakar
> > > > ji who
> > > > > > > > assured me that i was right.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such
people to
> > > > mislead
> > > > > > > > students like me, and i think you all would agree that
one
> > > > needs to
> > > > > > > > know the true source of something before following it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it would be great if this group could organise camps
where
> > > > > > > > a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> > > > > > > > b.) share knowledge.
> > > > > > > > c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the
origin
> > > and
> > > > > > > > writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit
where
> > > > credit is
> > > > > > > > due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit
to Pt.
> > > ji.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am
> > > > pretty sure
> > > > > > > > that 'what goes around comes around'.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > yours respectfuly
> > > > > > > > jitin syal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Baljeet Pandher
> > > > > > > > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake
> > > > identities by
> > > > > > > > a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO
BHI LAL
> > > > KITAB
> > > > > > > > KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB
MAUKA
> > > MILA TO
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for
these
> > > > who use
> > > > > > > > fake mail names. people like us who think that these
people
> > > > are very
> > > > > > > > great people and we believe what they said is correct.
This is
> > > > > > > > cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I
cant
> > > > believe
> > > > > > > > that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > II was member of their group and found that these
poeple are
> > > > > > > > running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong
ideology
> > > > always.
> > > > > > > > Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU
JI
> > > > SAID THIS,
> > > > > > > > OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe
pata
> > > > chal gaya
> > > > > > > > tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh
kar
> > > apni
> > > > > > > > dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA -
WAAH KYA
> > > > BAAT
> > > > > > > > HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar
Pundit
> > > Roop
> > > > > > > > chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud
khurana ban
> > > kar
> > > > > > > > Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein
bilkul ye
> > > hi
> > > > > > > > kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal
kitab ko
> > > > pundit
> > > > > > > > roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away
with his
> > > > tail
> > > > > > > > in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to
contradict
> > > that
> > > > > > > > means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely
corrct. I
> > > > also
> > > > > > > > note that what is discussed in this group they will copy
it
> > > and
> > > > > > > > always try to prove it wrong.
> > > > > > > > > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi
divaliyapan ka
> > > bhi
> > > > > > > > shikar hai.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Apka abhari
> > > > > > > > > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > From: Raj hdincp@
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN
CHALANE
> > > > WALON SE
> > > > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Cc: hdincp@
> > > > > > > > > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email
thread I
> > > was
> > > > > > > > just I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy
to
> > > > people
> > > > > > > > like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake
group
> > > and
> > > > > > > > people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy
has got
> > > to
> > > > > > > > mislead people. I think the moderators should call and
check
> > > the
> > > > > > > > people who join this group
> > > > > > > > > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be
bold
> > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always
helping
> > > > people.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will be happy of any help in further development of
the
> > > > lal Kitab
> > > > > > > > and Vedic astrology.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every
> > > > experience in
> > > > > > > > which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and
then
> > > you
> > > > > > > > destroy yourself.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@
yahoo.co.
> > > in>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON
> > > SE
> > > > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > > > > > > > > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set
things
> > > > on right
> > > > > > > > track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps
will
> > > not
> > > > > > > > only help the human kind but will also help to demask
many
> > > fake
> > > > > > > > people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group
shud
> > > > appreciate
> > > > > > > > ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in
> > > > practicality. ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON
> > > SE
> > > > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > > > > > > > > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail
aayee
> > > > thee jo
> > > > > > > > ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat
hoon ki
> > > > hum logo
> > > > > > > > ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL
KITAB ke
> > > > naam par
> > > > > > > > logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > > > > > > > > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss
group
> > > ka
> > > > > > > > naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake
ids
> > > bana
> > > > > > > > rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur
khud
> > > hee
> > > > > > > > uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab
ki
> > > > tarif kar
> > > > > > > > deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala
hai )
> > > > > > > > > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin
meri
> > > > kafi saari
> > > > > > > > mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera
iss
> > > > tarah se
> > > > > > > > likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke
anusaar
> > > > nahi likh
> > > > > > > > rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh
galat
> > > kar
> > > > > > > > rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar
chale
> > > to
> > > > > > > > achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par
chal
> > > > raha hai.
> > > > > > > > > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se
> > > > (shayad)woh iss
> > > > > > > > group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee
vishay iss
> > > > group
> > > > > > > > mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group
mein bhee
> > > > chala
> > > > > > > > jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya
fir unki
> > > > > > > > dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir
bhee ek
> > > baat
> > > > > > > > hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi
chal
> > > sakte
> > > > > > > > kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai
aur
> > > > hamesha
> > > > > > > > se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > > > > > > > > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya
yeh tp
> > > wohi
> > > > > > > > jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir
bhee
> > > > unko yeh
> > > > > > > > chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par
> > > > debate karte
> > > > > > > > ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee
hota.
> > > Mere
> > > > > > > > baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat
karein
> > > balki
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi
logo
> > > > ka bhala
> > > > > > > > hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO
MAZMEWALE
> > > KA
> > > > > > > > APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA
JAWAB
> > > > DETA HAI
> > > > > > > > USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE
HOTE
> > > HAIN
> > > > > > > > TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali
bajati
> > > > > > > > hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki
haan
> > > mein
> > > > > > > > haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > > > > > > > > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed
se
> > > > kisi bhee
> > > > > > > > tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > > > > > > > > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > > > > > > > > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh
mail
> > > > dekhe to
> > > > > > > > mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon
ki
> > > > kyon na
> > > > > > > > hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar
logo ka
> > > > bhala
> > > > > > > > karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp
> > > > lagaya kare
> > > > > > > > aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee
bhala
> > > hoga
> > > > > > > > aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla
camp
> > > unke
> > > > > > > > hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein
lagaya
> > > > > > > > jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > > > > > > > > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain
kripya
> > > > woh bhee
> > > > > > > > jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya
jaye
> > > > (unke India
> > > > > > > > aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho
sake to
> > > apna
> > > > > > > > progrram pehle bata dein.
> > > > > > > > > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE
GAYA. SAB
> > > > MEMBERS
> > > > > > > > ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA
CHALE KI
> > > YEH
> > > > > > > > GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI
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> > > > GROUP
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > > > > > > > > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de
ki
> > > > hum sahi
> > > > > > > > raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein
kyonki
> > > yehi
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > > > > > > > > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri
baton se
> > > thes
> > > > > > > > pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi
laga
> > > woh
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