Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE SAWDHAN

Respectable kalsi ji

I bet, he will never come forward to attend any such confidence. Very
recently, he as Satpaul khurana when challenged, ran away from ancient
astrology group and never came back. This guy is burning his night
oil to project himself as the only intelligent Lal kitabist in the
world nd prove others as big fools by using fake IDs of Trivedi,
vashishta, Tyagi, Khurana, Raheja, juneja, miglani, Gill and dozens
more on the internet. His anti Punjabi feeling is also an open secret,
he with his various avtatars wont miss any chance to let the punjabi
LK scholars down. for your eyes only I am presenting some of other
avatars of "Guru" Bhooahan Priya:

(1)Dharamveer dahiya
(2)Pardeep Kapoor
(3)AmIt sood
(4)Ranbir Tokas
(5)Narendra Juneja
(6)Roopak Rastogi

In spite of everything he is still not stopping as it is right said
that old habits die hard. His avatars are doing their work of fooling
innocent public in full swing. Even today (05/11/2008) he raised a
question as respected Gill saheb and answered as guru Vatun ji (khud
hi guru khud hi chela) Now expect some mails of Wah-Wahi from his
other Avatars in the evening, the same old routine-bravo!!!!!!!!. What
a way to prove your point. He declared Kheti-baadi ka sazo saman
(equipments) as venus- waah ji waah. Agriculrual equipments mostly
made of iron belongs to Venus? God bless this "SUPER LITERATE" scholar
who always label others as semi-literates.

Have a nice day
Dr. Kirti Sharma

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Shivdev Kalsi"
<shivdev.kalsi@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Members,
>
> It is "Aape Guru Chela". mean Me is Guru and Me is Follower. It is
amazing,
> a person who donot know the basic script of the Lalkitab, is writing
> treatise on it and telling others about the history of this book.It
is like
> a person like me who donot know Sanskrit and try to bring my
theories about
> the Hora shastra and declaring that shastra wrong.
>
> I Invite Mr. Bhoosan Priya and his Avtars to come in a joint conference
> about Lalkitab. and discuss it there in person. He can fixup the
venue and I
> request Prabhakar ji,Nirmal ji, Kondal Ji and others to attend that
> conference.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:26 PM, mts3434 <mts3434@...> wrote:
>
> > Members,
> >
> > Pt.Luxmi Rattan Shukla jee kitna sahi likha ki:-
> >
> > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai, aur ye
logon
> > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in logon
ka 5
> > point agenda hai:
> >
> > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko bhramit karna,
> > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki bat ko
galat
> > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur par project
> > karna.
> >
> > jab yeh log apni koshish mein kamyaab nahi ho rahe theiy tab in
logo ne
> > apna ek group banaya aur usko chalane ke liye naqli naam se
(ids)khud hee
> > member ban gaye aur khud hee swal jawab dene lag gaye aur woh bhee
> > manghadant jiska ki , group jo LAL KITAB ke naam par thaa aur
jawab/swal
> > ka LAL KITAB ke sathh tallouq kum hee hua karta thaa, genuine
members bhee
> > usko sahi maan baithey aur unko kitna fayda panhuncha ya nuksan
iska koi
> > vivran nahi hai.agar yeh log LAL KITAB ke naam par group na banatey to
> > shayaad LAL KITAB ke premi inke member nahi bante aur yeh unko
gumrah nahi
> > kar patey.
> >
> > BURAI JAB BHEE BURAI KE ROOP MEIN SAHMNE AYEGI USKO PEHCHANANA
ASAAN HOTA
> > HAI,ISS LIYE BURAI HAMESHA HEE ACHHAI KA MUKHOUTA AURH KAR SAHMNE
AATEE
> > HAI, JIS SE USKO PEHCHANANA KATHIN HOTA HAI.ISS LIYE *RAVAN *KO
BHEE SADHU
> > KA VESH DHARAN KARNA PADA JIS SE *SITA* JEE BHEE DHOKHA KHA GAYEE.
> >
> > Issi asool par woh log bhee chal rahe hain, lekin woh log (ek ya ek se
> > zyada)yeh bhul gaye ki akhir mein VIJAY sirf sachai ki hoti hai. iski
> > udharan ek nahi hazaron mil jayengi. iss liye mera unn logo se
nimrata sahit
> > nivedan hai ki woh sachai ka sath dein na ki galat hathon mein
apne aap ko
> > sounpe. apne gyan ka (LAL KITAB ka jitna gyan hai ) sahi istemal
kar ke
> > logo ka aur khud ka bhala karrein.
> >
> > Mahajan
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Luxmi Rattan Shukla
> > <luxmirattanshukla@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Respected Mudit ji, apne bilkul sahi kaha hai aur main apse
poori tarah
> > se sehmat hoon, ek badi prasiddh kahawat hai ki jab baaj khamosh
ho jatey
> > hain tab totey shor machaney lag jatey hai. Ap sab purane log pata
nahi kyon
> > gehri nidraa min leen ho gaye hain. 2003 se lekar 2005 tak kya badhiya
> > discussion huya karti thi old group mein. Ap, Bhatia jee, lalkitbi
jee,
> > prabhakar jee, kulbeer ji, Iqbal jee, Anshev jee etc. kitni uttam
batein
> > bataya kartey the. Kitni khul kar debate huya karti thi ek-ek
point par.
> > Pata nahi kyon ap sab log chup ho gaye aur doosrey logon ne darzan
darzan
> > nakli naam rakh kar budhu banane ka silsila shuru kar diya. tabhi se
> > standard ki discussion honi band ho gayi hai. Ab to sab log apni
apni dafli
> > aur apna apna raag alap rahe hain.
> > >
> > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai, aur
ye logon
> > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in logon
ka 5
> > point agenda hai:
> > >
> > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko bhramit karna,
> > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki bat
ko galat
> > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur par
project
> > karna.
> > >
> > > Apke sahit sabhi purane khiladiyon se anurodh hai ki neend se
jagiye aur
> > jo log is vidya ko prapat karna chahte hain unki sahayta ke liye
aage ayiye.
> > >
> > > With respect
> > > Pt. Lumxi Rattan Shukla
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Umesh Sharma mudit982001@ wrote:
> > > From: Umesh Sharma mudit982001@
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > SAWDHAN
> > > To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 4:56 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Members,
> > > No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
> > > Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not participate in
group, we
> > are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are seeing. My
> > suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give answer to
those
> > peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all go for make
much more
> > to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and share the
knowledge.
> > An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
> > > I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge of
English plz
> > do not go for my errors.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks
> > >
> >
Regards
> > >
> >
> > Umesh Sharma
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82"
<jitinsyal82@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt.
ashant, that
> > > > lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was "given" by
> > > > someone during their service years in army.
> > > >
> > > > even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji himself,
Pt. ji
> > > > told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious who said
> > > > what!!)
> > > >
> > > > even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT Pt. ji
> > > > could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met prabhakar
ji who
> > > > assured me that i was right.
> > > >
> > > > i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people to
mislead
> > > > students like me, and i think you all would agree that one
needs to
> > > > know the true source of something before following it.
> > > >
> > > > it would be great if this group could organise camps where
> > > > a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> > > > b.) share knowledge.
> > > > c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the origin and
> > > > writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where
credit is
> > > > due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to Pt. ji.
> > > >
> > > > AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am
pretty sure
> > > > that 'what goes around comes around'.
> > > >
> > > > yours respectfuly
> > > > jitin syal.
> > > >
> > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Baljeet Pandher
> > > > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> > > > >
> > > > > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake
identities by
> > > > a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI LAL
KITAB
> > > > KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA MILA TO
> > > > LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these
who use
> > > > fake mail names. people like us who think that these people
are very
> > > > great people and we believe what they said is correct. This is
> > > > cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant
believe
> > > > that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> > > > >
> > > > > II was member of their group and found that these poeple are
> > > > running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology
always.
> > > > Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI
SAID THIS,
> > > > OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata
chal gaya
> > > > tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar apni
> > > > dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH KYA
BAAT
> > > > HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar Pundit Roop
> > > > chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana ban kar
> > > > Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul ye hi
> > > > kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab ko
pundit
> > > > roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with his
tail
> > > > in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to contradict that
> > > > means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely corrct. I
also
> > > > note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it and
> > > > always try to prove it wrong.
> > > > > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan ka bhi
> > > > shikar hai.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apka abhari
> > > > > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > > > > From: Raj hdincp@
> > > > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON SE
> > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Cc: hdincp@
> > > > > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread I was
> > > > just I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to
people
> > > > like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake group and
> > > > people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has got to
> > > > mislead people. I think the moderators should call and check the
> > > > people who join this group
> > > > > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold
enough to
> > > > give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping
people.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will be happy of any help in further development of the
lal Kitab
> > > > and Vedic astrology.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every
experience in
> > > > which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> > > > >
> > > > > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you
> > > > destroy yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > > > > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things
on right
> > > > track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps will not
> > > > only help the human kind but will also help to demask many fake
> > > > people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud
appreciate
> > > > ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in
practicality. ...
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > > > > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee
thee jo
> > > > ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki
hum logo
> > > > ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke
naam par
> > > > logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > > > > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss group ka
> > > > naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids bana
> > > > rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur khud hee
> > > > uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki
tarif kar
> > > > deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> > > > > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri
kafi saari
> > > > mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss
tarah se
> > > > likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar
nahi likh
> > > > rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh galat kar
> > > > rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to
> > > > achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal
raha hai.
> > > > > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se
(shayad)woh iss
> > > > group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay iss
group
> > > > mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein bhee
chala
> > > > jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir unki
> > > > dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee ek baat
> > > > hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal sakte
> > > > kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur
hamesha
> > > > se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > > > > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh tp wohi
> > > > jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee
unko yeh
> > > > chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par
debate karte
> > > > ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee hota. Mere
> > > > baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat karein balki
> > > > LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo
ka bhala
> > > > hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO MAZMEWALE KA
> > > > APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB
DETA HAI
> > > > USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE HOTE HAIN
> > > > TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali bajati
> > > > hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki haan mein
> > > > haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > > > > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se
kisi bhee
> > > > tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > > > > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > > > > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh mail
dekhe to
> > > > mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki
kyon na
> > > > hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo ka
bhala
> > > > karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp
lagaya kare
> > > > aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee bhala hoga
> > > > aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla camp unke
> > > > hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
> > > > jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > > > > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya
woh bhee
> > > > jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye
(unke India
> > > > aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho sake to apna
> > > > progrram pehle bata dein.
> > > > > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA. SAB
MEMBERS
> > > > ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE KI YEH
> > > > GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI. YEH
GROUP
> > > > LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > > > > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki
hum sahi
> > > > raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein kyonki yehi
> > > > LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > > > > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton se thes
> > > > pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi laga woh
> > > > zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB SE MAFI
> > > > CHAHTA HOON KUCHH KADWA BHEE LIKHA HOGA.
> > > > > DHANYAWAD
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> --
> Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,
> Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)
> Consultant (Vedic Astrology)
>