Respected Mahajan Sahib
Sorry for the delayed response as I was over busy with my official
work as well as other domestic exigencies. I am completely agree with
every single point you have raised during the past few days.
I would like to assure you that my services for the cause are
available to you 24X7, just instruct me where I have to
reach/participate? And what should I contribute? Since you are one of
the better organisers, just organise a get-together or a proper
meeting/seminar/
per my ability.
Respectfully
Yograj Prabhakar
--- In astrostudents@
>
>
> Kalsi Jee,
>
> Namaskar,
>
> Jo baat aapne kahi hai wohi baat maine apni mail jis se yeh topic shuru
> hua tha usee mein keh dee thee ki kahin bhee LAL KITAB par behas kar
> lein pata chal jayega ki kaun kitne paani mein hai.
>
> bhains ke aage been bajana shayad issi ko kehte hain.
>
> MAHAJAN
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@
> <shivdev.kalsi@
> >
> > Respected Members,
> >
> > It is "Aape Guru Chela". mean Me is Guru and Me is Follower. It is
> amazing,
> > a person who donot know the basic script of the Lalkitab, is writing
> > treatise on it and telling others about the history of this book.It is
> like
> > a person like me who donot know Sanskrit and try to bring my theories
> about
> > the Hora shastra and declaring that shastra wrong.
> >
> > I Invite Mr. Bhoosan Priya and his Avtars to come in a joint
> conference
> > about Lalkitab. and discuss it there in person. He can fixup the venue
> and I
> > request Prabhakar ji,Nirmal ji, Kondal Ji and others to attend that
> > conference.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:26 PM, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:
> >
> > > Members,
> > >
> > > Pt.Luxmi Rattan Shukla jee kitna sahi likha ki:-
> > >
> > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai, aur ye
> logon
> > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in logon
> ka 5
> > > point agenda hai:
> > >
> > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko bhramit karna,
> > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki bat ko
> galat
> > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur par
> project
> > > karna.
> > >
> > > jab yeh log apni koshish mein kamyaab nahi ho rahe theiy tab in logo
> ne
> > > apna ek group banaya aur usko chalane ke liye naqli naam se
> (ids)khud hee
> > > member ban gaye aur khud hee swal jawab dene lag gaye aur woh bhee
> > > manghadant jiska ki , group jo LAL KITAB ke naam par thaa aur
> jawab/swal
> > > ka LAL KITAB ke sathh tallouq kum hee hua karta thaa, genuine
> members bhee
> > > usko sahi maan baithey aur unko kitna fayda panhuncha ya nuksan iska
> koi
> > > vivran nahi hai.agar yeh log LAL KITAB ke naam par group na banatey
> to
> > > shayaad LAL KITAB ke premi inke member nahi bante aur yeh unko
> gumrah nahi
> > > kar patey.
> > >
> > > BURAI JAB BHEE BURAI KE ROOP MEIN SAHMNE AYEGI USKO PEHCHANANA ASAAN
> HOTA
> > > HAI,ISS LIYE BURAI HAMESHA HEE ACHHAI KA MUKHOUTA AURH KAR SAHMNE
> AATEE
> > > HAI, JIS SE USKO PEHCHANANA KATHIN HOTA HAI.ISS LIYE *RAVAN *KO BHEE
> SADHU
> > > KA VESH DHARAN KARNA PADA JIS SE *SITA* JEE BHEE DHOKHA KHA GAYEE.
> > >
> > > Issi asool par woh log bhee chal rahe hain, lekin woh log (ek ya ek
> se
> > > zyada)yeh bhul gaye ki akhir mein VIJAY sirf sachai ki hoti hai.
> iski
> > > udharan ek nahi hazaron mil jayengi. iss liye mera unn logo se
> nimrata sahit
> > > nivedan hai ki woh sachai ka sath dein na ki galat hathon mein apne
> aap ko
> > > sounpe. apne gyan ka (LAL KITAB ka jitna gyan hai ) sahi istemal kar
> ke
> > > logo ka aur khud ka bhala karrein.
> > >
> > > Mahajan
> > > --- In astrostudents@
> > > luxmirattanshukla@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Respected Mudit ji, apne bilkul sahi kaha hai aur main apse poori
> tarah
> > > se sehmat hoon, ek badi prasiddh kahawat hai ki jab baaj khamosh ho
> jatey
> > > hain tab totey shor machaney lag jatey hai. Ap sab purane log pata
> nahi kyon
> > > gehri nidraa min leen ho gaye hain. 2003 se lekar 2005 tak kya
> badhiya
> > > discussion huya karti thi old group mein. Ap, Bhatia jee, lalkitbi
> jee,
> > > prabhakar jee, kulbeer ji, Iqbal jee, Anshev jee etc. kitni uttam
> batein
> > > bataya kartey the. Kitni khul kar debate huya karti thi ek-ek point
> par.
> > > Pata nahi kyon ap sab log chup ho gaye aur doosrey logon ne darzan
> darzan
> > > nakli naam rakh kar budhu banane ka silsila shuru kar diya. tabhi se
> > > standard ki discussion honi band ho gayi hai. Ab to sab log apni
> apni dafli
> > > aur apna apna raag alap rahe hain.
> > > >
> > > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai, aur ye
> logon
> > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in logon
> ka 5
> > > point agenda hai:
> > > >
> > > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko bhramit
> karna,
> > > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki bat ko
> galat
> > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur par
> project
> > > karna.
> > > >
> > > > Apke sahit sabhi purane khiladiyon se anurodh hai ki neend se
> jagiye aur
> > > jo log is vidya ko prapat karna chahte hain unki sahayta ke liye
> aage ayiye.
> > > >
> > > > With respect
> > > > Pt. Lumxi Rattan Shukla
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Umesh Sharma mudit982001@ wrote:
> > > > From: Umesh Sharma mudit982001@
> > > > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > > SAWDHAN
> > > > To: astrostudents@
> > > > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 4:56 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Members,
> > > > No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
> > > > Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not participate in
> group, we
> > > are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are seeing. My
> > > suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give answer to
> those
> > > peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all go for make much
> more
> > > to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and share the
> knowledge.
> > > An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
> > > > I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge of
> English plz
> > > do not go for my errors.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > Regards
> > > >
> > >
> > > Umesh Sharma
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82"
> <jitinsyal82@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt. ashant,
> that
> > > > > lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was "given"
> by
> > > > > someone during their service years in army.
> > > > >
> > > > > even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji himself,
> Pt. ji
> > > > > told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty obvious who
> said
> > > > > what!!)
> > > > >
> > > > > even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone BUT Pt. ji
> > > > > could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met prabhakar ji
> who
> > > > > assured me that i was right.
> > > > >
> > > > > i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such people to
> mislead
> > > > > students like me, and i think you all would agree that one needs
> to
> > > > > know the true source of something before following it.
> > > > >
> > > > > it would be great if this group could organise camps where
> > > > > a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> > > > > b.) share knowledge.
> > > > > c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the origin
> and
> > > > > writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit where credit
> is
> > > > > due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit to Pt.
> ji.
> > > > >
> > > > > AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am pretty
> sure
> > > > > that 'what goes around comes around'.
> > > > >
> > > > > yours respectfuly
> > > > > jitin syal.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Baljeet Pandher
> > > > > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake
> identities by
> > > > > a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO BHI LAL
> KITAB
> > > > > KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB MAUKA MILA
> TO
> > > > > LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for these who
> use
> > > > > fake mail names. people like us who think that these people are
> very
> > > > > great people and we believe what they said is correct. This is
> > > > > cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I cant
> believe
> > > > > that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > II was member of their group and found that these poeple are
> > > > > running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong ideology
> always.
> > > > > Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU JI SAID
> THIS,
> > > > > OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe pata chal
> gaya
> > > > > tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh kar apni
> > > > > dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA - WAAH KYA
> BAAT
> > > > > HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar Pundit
> Roop
> > > > > chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud khurana ban
> kar
> > > > > Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein bilkul ye
> hi
> > > > > kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal kitab ko
> pundit
> > > > > roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away with his
> tail
> > > > > in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to contradict
> that
> > > > > means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely corrct. I
> also
> > > > > note that what is discussed in this group they will copy it and
> > > > > always try to prove it wrong.
> > > > > > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi divaliyapan ka
> bhi
> > > > > shikar hai.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apka abhari
> > > > > > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > > > > > From: Raj hdincp@
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
> WALON SE
> > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Cc: hdincp@
> > > > > > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email thread I
> was
> > > > > just I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy to
> people
> > > > > like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake group
> and
> > > > > people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy has got
> to
> > > > > mislead people. I think the moderators should call and check the
> > > > > people who join this group
> > > > > > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be bold enough
> to
> > > > > give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always helping
> people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will be happy of any help in further development of the lal
> Kitab
> > > > > and Vedic astrology.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience
> in
> > > > > which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then
> you
> > > > > destroy yourself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co.
> in>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > > > > > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set things on
> right
> > > > > track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps will
> not
> > > > > only help the human kind but will also help to demask many fake
> > > > > people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group shud
> appreciate
> > > > > ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in practicality.
> ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE WALON SE
> > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > > > > > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail aayee thee
> jo
> > > > > ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat hoon ki hum
> logo
> > > > > ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL KITAB ke
> naam par
> > > > > logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > > > > > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss group
> ka
> > > > > naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake ids bana
> > > > > rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur khud
> hee
> > > > > uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab ki tarif
> kar
> > > > > deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala hai )
> > > > > > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin meri kafi
> saari
> > > > > mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera iss
> tarah se
> > > > > likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke anusaar nahi
> likh
> > > > > rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh galat
> kar
> > > > > rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar chale
> to
> > > > > achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par chal
> raha hai.
> > > > > > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se (shayad)woh
> iss
> > > > > group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee vishay iss
> group
> > > > > mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group mein bhee
> chala
> > > > > jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya fir unki
> > > > > dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir bhee ek
> baat
> > > > > hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi chal sakte
> > > > > kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai aur
> hamesha
> > > > > se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > > > > > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya yeh tp
> wohi
> > > > > jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir bhee unko
> yeh
> > > > > chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par debate
> karte
> > > > > ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee hota.
> Mere
> > > > > baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat karein
> balki
> > > > > LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi logo ka
> bhala
> > > > > hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO MAZMEWALE
> KA
> > > > > APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA JAWAB DETA
> HAI
> > > > > USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE HOTE
> HAIN
> > > > > TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali bajati
> > > > > hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki haan
> mein
> > > > > haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > > > > > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed se kisi
> bhee
> > > > > tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > > > > > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > > > >ho sake to apna
> > > > > progrram pehl > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh
> khud yeh mail dekhe to
> > > > > mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon ki kyon
> na
> > > > > hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar logo ka
> bhala
> > > > > karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp lagaya
> kare
> > > > > aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee bhala
> hoga
> > > > > aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla camp
> unke
> > > > > hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein lagaya
> > > > > jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > > > > > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain kripya woh
> bhee
> > > > > jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya jaye (unke
> India
> > > > > aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar e bata dein.
> > > > > > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE GAYA. SAB
> MEMBERS
> > > > > ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA CHALE KI
> YEH
> > > > > GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI CHALTI. YEH
> GROUP
> > > > > LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > > > > > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de ki hum
> sahi
> > > > > raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein kyonki
> yehi
> > > > > LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > > > > > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri baton se
> thes
> > > > > pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi laga
> woh
> > > > > zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB SE MAFI
> > > > > CHAHTA HOON KUCHH KADWA BHEE LIKHA HOGA.
> > > > > > DHANYAWAD
> > > > > > MAHAJAN
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