[astrostudents] Re: Pakka Ghar no.4, Lal Kitab - 1942 page 20.

 

Dear All,

If Ketu alone in 4H is not malefic,then how it creates mother's debt/matri rin which itself a malefic one?

Regards
AMITABHA CAHTERJI

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, JITIN SYAL <jitinsyal82@...> wrote:
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> Jesal ji, as far as my little knowledge goes in lal kitab, all i can gather is that when Ketu and rahu are in 4th house(or with moon in any other house) it makes the chart 'Dharmi tewa'.
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> Basically for dharmi tewa, Pt. ji has said that paapi grah (rahu, ketu and saturn) will be less destructive. dharmi tewa itself is a different topic in lal kitab which can be taken up for discussion at a later stage(hopefully).
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> For the time being, keeping discussion relevant to 4th house, if ketu is in 4th with moon no doubt it will effect moon (moon+ketu=moon sifar/0), but it will also keep a CHECK on ketu. Ketu will not become benefic though, it will be less destructive for the native.
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> Jai Pt. ji
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> Jitin Syal
> Perth
> Australia
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> --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Jesal Sagar <jesalsagar@...> wrote:
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> From: Jesal Sagar <jesalsagar@...>
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Pakka Ghar no.4, Lal Kitab - 1942 page 20.
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 3 December, 2010, 18:12
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> Sir when they say that
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> Rahu-Ketu ghar chauthe mein,  paap se har dem darte hai.
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> Tare kwah na tare marji,  kasam paap ki karte hai.
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> In 4H, rahu, ketu does not do any maleficiance. They may not be benefic, but they swear to keep silence and not to do any wrong deed.
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> Than y it said that ketu+moon in 4th house does chandra grahan ..
> When ketu is silent in 4th house and moon is with ketu .. Is the moon afflected due to ketu ?
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> And how is jupiter + sun + moon ll affect the result of 4th house ..
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> So finally how ll be come to know which planet is affecting the result of 4th house ????
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> Plz give ur important views on this ..
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> Regards
> Jesal Sagar ..
> Sent from my BlackBerry® 9780 thru Vodafone Network.From: "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@...>
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> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 07:51:41 -0000To: <astrostudents@yahoogroups.com>ReplyTo: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [astrostudents] Pakka Ghar no.4, Lal Kitab - 1942 page 20.
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> Respected Members,
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> Hare Rama Krsna,
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> I am posting commentary on the 4H in Lal kitab, in continuation of
> the series of LK- Pakka ghar.
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> LK-42- page 20: Pakka Ghar no. 4.
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> Chauthe chander ko peat mata aur  
> thandi roshini mana hai.
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> In 4H moon, is womb of mother, light with absence of heat.
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> Here in frst line author indicate that
> moon and 4H are synonym.
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> `Thandhi roshini' means
> that knowledge, which give peace and prosperity.
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> Char taraf ka pani duniya 
> dudh, samunder dariya hai.
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> Water bodies (natural) present at all direction on earth, milk,
> ocean, and rivers.
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> It clearly says that any pond, lake,
> river or ocean, which are natural in nature, signifies 4H or moon.
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> Dil, safar, mata, dharti, ghoda, 
> taraf shumali-mashrif hai.
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> Heart, travel, mother, earth, horse, north-east side direction.
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> Charinde, chawal, dudh pilate, 
> bajaji, murge-aabhi hai.
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> Herbivorous animals, rice, drinking milk, dealer of cloths,
> (murge-aabhi) : bird which live on water.
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> I think author says all milk producing
> animals (mammals) but mainly domestic in nature.
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> Tahreer daulat ya waqt jawani, 
> rang gina hai chandi ka.
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> It signifies: Wealth written in destiny, time of youthood,
> colour is of silver.
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> Tahreer Daulat: Here authors says that the fortune
> which rises from 9H like a cloud and strike at 2H mountain than wealth at hand
> (i.e. Liquidity) in the form of rain come in 4H.
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> Anbid moti, ghar mata ka, 
> ras hota hai shanti ka.
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> It signifies : Uncollected natural pearls, house of mother,
> taste of satisfaction & peace.
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> Anbid ? what is the correct meaning ?
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> Jukawo tabiyat, farsh makana, 
> talluk ginte hai mardo ka.
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> It signifies: natural temprament of native, floor of house, and
> relationship with males.
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> Chakker, sankh, sadaf ho pori, 
> nishan bhi lete hai va joo ka.
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> In Fingers it signifies: Whorls, Loops, Arches & small
> Islands (at phalange joints).
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> Rahu-Ketu ghar chauthe mein, 
> paap se har dem darte hai.
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> Tare kwah na tare marji, 
> kasam paap ki karte hai.
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> In 4H, rahu, ketu does not do any maleficiance. They may not be
> benefic, but they swear to keep silence and not to do any wrong deed.
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> Grah chauthe raat ko jage, 
> ya jage va musibat mein.
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> Madadd koi na ho jab karta, aa taren va budape mein
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> Planets in 4H wakes up in night or it rise at the time of
> problems.
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> If no one comes to help than they will come at the time of old
> age.
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> Ek akela grah kwah koi,  ghar
> chauthe jab baithe ho.
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> Phal bura na kabhi na dewe, kwah chander ka dusman ho.
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> Any single planet in 4H will never give bad results even if it
> is the enemy of moon.
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> Ghar chauthe jab khud ho khali, 
> aakhir umar tak uttam ho.
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> Chander ka phal ghar hi dewe, 
> kwah chander khud nasti ho.
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> If 4H is empty than it will give good results till last breath.
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> The house where moon is situated will flourish, even if moon
> itself is destroyed.
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> Readers please test and verify this
> important verse.
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> Grah chauthe mein grah jo aawe, 
> Tasheer chander wo hota hai.
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> Asar magar jab is ghar mein jawe, sani jaha ki baithe hai.
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> Any planet, which comes in this house, will have the temprament
> of moon.
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> But the result of this planet will be as per the Saturn position
> in the chart.
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> Here important concept is said that
> planet in 4H will act as per moon's position in chart but final results will
> come from the position of Saturn.
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> This concept is easy to understand who
> are familiar with the prime concept of KP (Krishnamurti Paddathi), planet in
> any house represents the source, that Planet's Star-Lord says the way of effect
> or outcome and that Planet's Sub gives idea of the final decision or direction
> of that result ie whether it is postive or negative.
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> Guru, ravi, chander tewe, kahi bhi uske baithe ho.
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> Phal vese hi ghar chauthe ke, 
> us tewe mein hote hai.
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> The position of Jupiter, Sun, Moon in the
> chart will modify or affect the results of 4H.
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> Readers are requested to discuss on it.
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> Thankyou
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> Regards,
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> Vijay Goel
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> Astrologer & Vaastu couselor
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> Mob : +91 9214502239.
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> www.IndianAstroVedic.com
>

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