//Usually even the walls will not be useful against Dridha results,
even if someone try constructing the wall, the lion will jump over
the wall and eat the man for sure.//
In case of Grah Phal Planets , even If the remedy is performed as
suggested by some great person having its soul connected with God(it
is not possible for the normal human to alter the result of Grah
Phalplanet) , The man can be saved, but the lion may eat some other
person probably the relative near to him which means that the effect
is transferred to other person(That is why Babar Hamayun story is
referred. Father performed remedy for the sake of Son's life. Son
saved but father died)
Regards
Nirmal
On 12/31/10, sreesog <sreesog@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, "sreesog" <sreesog@...>
> wrote:
> Dear Nirmal ji,
> That was very informative! Thanks a lot.
> Drishti concept: Thanks for pointing out that both Full and Partial
> drishti concept is used in LK as well.
> I am specially thankful to you for the following para which explains
> "how to differentiate results caused by Rasiphal ka grah (Adridha phala)
> and results caused by Grahaphal ka grah (Dridha phala).
>
> // In the earlier edition of lalkitab this concept is given in detail.
> The main rule is the planet which resides in its Pakka Ghar, Rashi or
> Ghar, Its ghar of Exaltation or debilitation then it becomes Grah Phal
> Planets. The planets in other conditions became of rashi phal. In the
> later case the remedial measures can be prescribed by an astrologer. But
> in former case though in few circumstances the remedies are given in
> book and are considered safe. Pt. Ji has given a hidden warning that Few
> Great souls in the world can prescribe the remedies, but the result will
> be tit for tat. The story of Babar & Hamayun is cited as an example.
>
> In both the cases the effect of planet cannot be altered. the summary
> of example given in the book is : A lion is coming towards a person. He
> raises a wall between him and Lion. Lion try to jump upon the wall he
> raises the wall more. So the lion cannot be stopped or driven away but
> the wall keeps on saving the man //
> I noted the following special pointers as well -
> 1) In both the cases (in case of both Dridha and Adridha results) the
> effects of planets cannot be altered. (It would be like that for sure).
> But all the remedies are like building a wall to stop a lion.
> 2) Usually even the walls will not be useful against Dridha results,
> even if someone try constructing the wall, the lion will jump over the
> wall and eat the man for sure. [:)]
> Good pointers - thanks. [:)]
> Eagerly awaiting for the second part.
> Love and regards,
> Sreenadh
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj
> <nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Sreenadh Ji,
>
> I add my opinion as per my knowledge of this unique system: mine views
> are in red
>
>
> To review a system first one should know the system. In this mail, I
> will try to introduce you to some of the important rules and concepts
> present in LK.
>
> 1) The prime concept to know is that – in lalkitab system
> houses and signs are counted from lagna. i.e. Lagna is treated as Aries,
> 2nd house as Taurus, 3rd house as Gemini and so on, where ever the lagna
> be. This has got several side effects as follows -
>
> i. Lagna would always be treated as the exaltation sign of Su,
> 2nd house as that of Moon, 7th as the exaltation house of Saturn, 4th
> house of Jupiter, 6th house of Mercury and so on. In short
> exaltation-debilitation etc are all relative to houses and not signs.
> (Signs are only less important in LK). This introduces some corollaries
> -
>
> ii. Since Lagna means Aries (where ever the lagna be), Lagna is
> the exaltation sign of Sun, own house of Mars, debilitation house of
> Saturn etc.
>
> iii. As evident from the above example the `Kalapurusha
> chart' concept similar to AIA is accepted, but as indicated earlier the
> head of the kalapurusha (and native) starts with the lagna with its feet
> in the 12th house.
>
>
>
>
>
> //The Lagna is the hosue no 1 as usual. But the correct terms are Khana
> No, Pakka ghar, Rashi or ghar. Khana(Box) Numbers is assigned House no
> 1,2,3,4,…12. Pakka Ghar is permanently fixed house and Rashi or Ghar
> is the sign. While Khana No is just an identification No. given to each
> house. Pakka Ghar is the Mount of palms assigned to individual planets.
> Like Khana No 1. Denotes Pakka Ghar(mount) of Sun. and Khana No 1 also
> denotes the rashi/ghar of Mars. In Khana No1 Sun considered as exalted
> and Saturn debilitated. Thus over all Three planets have influence in
> Khana No 1 (Sun Mars & Saturn). Similarly Khana No 2 of kundli denotes
> the Pakka Ghar (Mount) of Jupiter, Rashi & Ghar of Venus,Moon considered
> as Exalted and this khana is not having any debilitated planet. So on in
> other khanas. It is clarified in Book that
>
> "Ünlike traditional System where the Rashis moves in Khanas(houses),
> the Place for rashis are fixed permanently in this system. //
>
>
>
>
> 2) Planetary Aspect (Drishti) – Planetary aspect is the same as
> in AIA. But there is a clause. `Aspect will be felt only if aspected
> house is occupied by another planet'. For example if Sun is placed in
> 10th house from Saturn then it can be said that Sun is aspected by
> Saturn. But if 10th house is vacant, then it cannot be said that Saturn
> is aspecting 10th house.
>
>
>
>
> //The Drishti concept is totally different and still more research is
> required in this concept.
>
> In my opinion the drishtis are divided into two systems. Planet to
> planet (P2P) effect and Planet to Planet & House (P2PH) effect.
>
> P2P: The drishtis are Common wall (Saanjhi Deewar), Achanak Chot(Sudden
> Impact), Dhoka (Deciet), Buniyadi, Aapsi madad, Taqrav(Collision), Aam
> Haalat. For details please refer the book.
>
> P2PH:-100% ,50%,25% and 7th from itself. The kundli is divided in to two
> halves, First side 1 to 6 is called first side and 7 to 12 is later
> side.
>
> 100% is 1-> 7 , 4->10.
>
> 50% is 5->9, 3->11,
>
> 25% is 2->6, 8->12 ,2->12
>
> 7th from itself
>
> 6->12, 8->2, 3->11
>
> Barring few conditions the planet in later house cannot send its effect
> in former house. There is a separate chapter given for these Dristis. In
> additions the clues are also cited there in every topic in the book .
>
>
>
>
> 3) Some say that, as per Lalkitab planets change significance when
> they change house. For example Moon in 4th indicate mother, in 6th
> indicate maternal grand mother, in 8th indicate elder aunt, in 10th
> younger aunt etc. But may be instead of assuming that planet is changing
> significance as they change house, we can explain it better if we assume
> that the house signify such relatives and the results are getting
> visible through the planets situated there.
>
>
>
>
>
> // This is there in other systems also. Each house signifies a Ghar of
> specific relative. So the planets automatically changes significance
> according to its placement.//
>
>
>
>
>
> 4) The concept of Dridha and Adhridha results is present in
> lalkitab system as well. As accepted in AIA Dridha results cannot be
> modified or changed with remedies but Adridha results can. But there is
> something special in deciding which are dridha and which are adridha
> results. Let me explain it a bit. As per LK every house is assigned one
> or more planets which indicate `planet of sign results' (rasiphal ka
> grah) and `planet of planet results' (grahaphal ka grah). It is said
> that `Planet of planet results' indicate dridha results and `planet of
> sign results' indicate adridha results. The remedies are said to work
> only for adridha results, i.e. results indicated by `planet of sign
> results'. Or in other words – "those planets which are considered as
> of `grah phal' are of dridha results and no upaya can be done for those
> planets. Those planets which are considered of `rasi phal' in a house
> are of adhridha results and an upaya can be done for them". (The list of
> `planet of sign results' and `planet of planet results' related to every
> house would be given later)
>
>
>
>
>
> // In the earlier edition of lalkitab this concept is given in detail.
> The main rule is the planet which resides in its Pakka Ghar, Rashi or
> Ghar, Its ghar of Exaltation or debilitation then it becomes Grah Phal
> Planets. The planets in other conditions became of rashi phal. In the
> later case the remedial measures can be prescribed by an astrologer. But
> in former case though in few circumstances the remedies are given in
> book and are considered safe. Pt. Ji has given a hidden warning that Few
> Great souls in the world can prescribe the remedies, but the result will
> be tit for tat. The story of Babar & Hamayun is cited as an example.
>
> In both the cases the effect of planet cannot be altered. the summary
> of example given in the book is : A lion is coming towards a person. He
> raises a wall between him and Lion. Lion try to jump upon the wall he
> raises the wall more. So the lion cannot be stopped or driven away but
> the wall keeps on saving the man //
>
>
>
>
> On rest of the issues I will give my opinion in the next mail.
>
>
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
>
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