--- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, "sreesog" <sreesog@...> wrote:
Dear All,
In the previous mail I said - "Lalkitab system is nothing but an expert shortcut system to AIA". Let me explain why I think so considering the listed points one by one.
Point -1
//1) The prime concept to know is that – in lalkitab system houses and signs are counted from lagna. i.e. Lagna is treated as Aries, 2nd house as Taurus, 3rd house as Gemini and so on, where ever the lagna be. //
In AIA while looking for a result we consider both Kalapurusha kundali and Natal Kundali - the results is verified by looking from Aries as well as lagna. For example to know whether there is any problem to the body at the time of birth, we check the signs starting from Aries considering Aries as head, Taurus as face and so on (The base quotes using being "Kalangani varangam anana muro....." from Brihat Jataka and "Kala narasyavayaval purushanam kalpayel presavakale..." from saravali). And also we check the houses starting from Lagna considering Lagna as head, 2nd house as face and so on. (The base quote being "Murtha Asya gala skandha...." found in Jaka Adesa Marga and many other texts). This technique of checking the horoscopes starting from Aries as well as Lagna is used extensively in AIA in almost every situation. Thus in truth the Aries signify lagna and Lagna signify Aries.
Therefore LK system combines these two things into one saying that - the signs should be counted from Lagna. Thus Lagna is considered similar to Aries, 2nd house similar to Taurus, 3rd house similar to Gemini and so on. And this is how the signs gets dropped in LK, but still being used in another way! I would say that it is an excellent shortcut approach, worth studying. (LK at any time does not seems to have given much importance to Nakshatras, so that is not considered here)
But this approach now brings in several difficulties and suitabilities which the AIA followers may or may not agree with. Let me list some of them below –
// i. Lagna would always be treated as the exaltation sign of Su, 2nd house as that of Moon, 7th as the exaltation house of Saturn, 4th house of Jupiter, 6th house of Mercury and so on. In short exaltation-debilitation etc are all relative to houses and not signs. (Signs are only less important in LK). This introduces some corollaries -
ii. Since Lagna means Aries (where ever the lagna be), Lagna is the exaltation sign of Sun, own house of Mars, debilitation house of Saturn etc.
iii. As evident from the above example the `Kalapurusha chart' concept similar to AIA is accepted, but as indicated earlier the head of the kalapurusha (and native) starts with the lagna with its feet in the 12th house. //
This brings in interesting situations like the following –
1) If Sun and Mars are placed in Lagna it is considered beneficial in LK since then Sun would be placed in its exaltation house, and Mars in its own house, if not they are malefic. (As told earlier there is no concept of natural malefic in LK, but instead two types of rules are given based on which we need to find whether a planet or combination is malefic or benefic - I will speak on this later). But as you know if not the Lagna is Aries this would be treated as a bad combination in AIA. Similarly Saturn in 7th is considered beneficial (if not malefic) since 7th is considered as the exaltation sign of Saturn. But as you know if not Lagna is Aries, this would be treated as bad combination in AIA.
I think this would a good point to introduce the concept of own house, exaltation, debilitation, planet of luck, planet of planet result, and planet of sign result related to every house as per LK and to provide a comparison of that against AIA perspective. As per LK -
| House No | Own house (Kalapurusha Chart) | Exalted Planet | Bhava Karaka (Pakka Khar) | Planet of Luck | Notes |
| 1 | Ma | Su | Su | Ma | - |
| 2 | Ve | Mo | Ju | Mo | - |
| 3 | Me | Ra | Ma | Me | Rahu is ascribed TWO exalted houses (3rd and 6th) as per LK |
| 4 | Mo | Ju | Mo | Mo | AIA considers Me also as significators for 4th house but LK don't |
| 5 | Su | - | Ju | Su | - |
| 6 | Me, Ke | Me, Ra | Ke | Ra | AIA considers Sa and Ma as significators for 6th house while LK considers Ke. |
| 7 | Ve | Sa | Ve, Me | Ve | AIA considers only Ve as significators for 7th house, while LK considers both Ve and Me |
| 8 | Ma | - | Ma, Sa | Mo | AIA considers only Sa as significators for 8th house, while LK considers both Sa and Ma. |
| 9 | Ju | Ke | Ju | Ju | AIA considers Ju, Su and Me as significators for 9th house, while LK considers only Ju |
| 10 | Sa | Ma | Sa | Sa | AIA considers Ju, Su, Me and Sa as the significators for 10th house, while LK considers only Sa |
| 11 | Sa | - | Ju | Ju | - |
| 12 | Ju, Ra | Ve, Ke | Ra | Ke | AIA considers Sa as the significator for 12th house, while LK considers only Ra |
Note: Usually the `planet of luck' is a planet which has either the lordship or exaltation in that house. But it is interesting to note that for 8th house, Moon which is actually debilitated in the 8th house of kalapurusha chart is considered as the planet of luck! Similarly for 11th house instead of considering Saturn which has the lordship of 11th house, Jupiter which is only a bhava karak for 11th house is treated as planet of luck! I wonder why is it so… Also note that Rahu and Ketu is also given own house, exaltation, debilitation etc in LK system..
Going back to the concept of Own house, exaltation, planet of luck etc even though it is well evident that the above LK concept is a short cut system to AIA, the points similar to the following can be debated –
1) Considering Moon in 8th as good (especially for longevity), where as per AIA Moon in 8th is supposed to give big health problems.
2) Sun and Mars in Lagna being considered as beneficial in LK, where as per AIA it is bad.
3) Mercury and Ketu in 6th - good as per LK and bad as per AIA
4) Mars and Moon in 8th – good as per LK and bad as per AIA
5) Jupiter and Rahu in 12th – good as per LK and bad as per AIA
Other proofs for the facts that "LK is an expert shortcut system to AIA" I will discuss in the coming mails.
Love and regards,
Sreenadh
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