Dear Saurab Misra ji,
Hare Rama Krsna,
// Your comments :
I think this combination will destroyed mental peace of person and such person can see dreams even in day time due to this lot of negative thoughts come in the mind and mental peace destroyed.
Such person can foresee future but negative things can predict more easily (I think Ra forced the negativity and Mars destroy mental peace).//
You could be right but in traditional astrology we have to consider many other factors for finer points.
Let see this combination under the lamp of Lal-kitab since we are dealing with 4H currently.
Now let see Jupiter, mars, sani and rahu , four planets results in 4H:
1) Jupiter is exalted, LK says it is the sea of milk, four planets moon, venus, mars and jupiter will confer positive and good results.
2) Mars is mangal budh as mars is debilitated.
"Chandra ya shukra akela yamangal ke saath mustarka khana # 3,4,8 mein ho to khud unka apana asar beshaqkuchha ho aur kaisa hi ho magar mangal ko mangalik ya mangal bad na hone denge."
If moon is good than magal budh will be greatly reduced.
So marriage related problems will be highly reduced, age of children could be safe.
3) Rahu here will not do mischievous, Dharmi Teva first condition is met.
Aalim va Akal wala to jarur hoga : Person will be skilled and intelligent. It gives good education to the native but status of property and wealth will depend on moon.
4) Sani is friend of moon so sani itself will be not bad for the native, ie if health is bad, consuming the items of sani will help in recovery of health, ie alcohol, badam, can be used as medicine.
This sani position is not good for Mama (mother's brother).
5) Jupiter + Sani : Here second condition for Dharmi Tewa is met.
Here native should follow the prime condition of maintenance of this yoga:
He should not drink alcohol to pronounce saturn negative (except in medicine like homeopati, ayurvedic having alcohol content) .
He should not ask for charity nor his livelihood should be dependent on charity.
He should have great faith on God and seek only his part of honest wealth from Him, never have eye on other's wealth.
He should refrain from womanizer (sani in 4H, mandi halat).
If condition are met than only illusion (Maya) of saturn will touch the feet of Guru, the teacher, the lord of two world.
(LK-42, page 259)
Simply Native has to make Jupiter strong from his actions.
6) Jupiter + Mars : Here we can safely say the age of males in the family is safe and male members will increase day by day.
This clearly indicate mars badh effect is turned to nil. But wealth is not guaranteed.
7) Jupiter + Rahu = Masnui Budh : Here fortune will be double shaded. If native has elephant (wealth) than he will be lord of only one world (like a head of Matt, temple, etc) Grishati hoga. "Fokki izzat hogi" ie His saintly appearance could be deceptive.
With rahu, jupiter will be silence ie jupiter will lose the hold of another world (Gaibi Takat). The position of mercury will have the final say over this yoga.
8) Mars + Saturn = Masnui Rahu Uccha : Here Native will have power to win combat and fights.
Horse breeding in his agriculture land will confer good results.
Else Death could be sudden and from accidents (moon + mars in 10H).
We must remember below verse also:
9) Rahu + Mars : Elephant (rahu) is under control of Mars (Mahawat), if not than elephant will be mad.
10) Rahu + Saturn : In 4H : native is king, saheb-e-iqbal.
11) Ra+ ju+ sa : Happiness of males will be less.
12) Ju + Mars + Sani : Number of males will decrease.
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Conclusion :1) Financial status is dependent on moon's position and status.
2) Dharmi Tewa condition is additional dependent on Mercury's position and status, as jupiter is silence in front of rahu.
Thank you
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
>
> Dear Vijay Ji,
>
> I would like to share my experience on (if I am correct) “Saturn + Jupiter is
> Brahma yoga in traditional astrology which means that person has the ability to
> foresee past, present & futureâ€.
> But what will happen if Ra and Mars join the Saturn + Jupiter (Saturn + Jupiter
> + Ra +Mars in 4th house)?
>
> I think this combination will destroyed mental peace of person and such person
> can see dreams even in day time due to this lot of negative thoughts come in the
> mind and mental peace destroyed.
> Such person can foresee future but negative things can predict more easily (I
> think Ra forced the negativity and Mars destroy mental peace).
> What you think?
>
>
> Regards,
> Saurabh Mishra
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: vijay.goel goyalvj@...
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 6 December, 2010 19:13:10
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: Pakka Ghar no.4, Lal Kitab - 1942 page 20. Dharmi
> Tewa
>
> Â
> Respected Finn ji,
>
> Hare Rama Krsna,
>
> " This story, if true, is a perfect example of Dharmi Tewa, don't you think?"
>
> Dharmi Tewa don't indicate enlighten souls, nor a parameter to says that these
> combination make sure to get enlightenment.
>
> The main theme is very simple in LK:
> 1) Moon represent heart and emotion and Ra\Ke signifies excited or depress
> state of emotions.
> So moon + ra\ke makes the person, who can easily able to control emotion as
> per their wish, if they practice for it.
> For eg. in a good psychologist charts you can find this yoga easily. But
> negatively these combination creates fear and phobias.
>
> 2) Saturn works as an executor of law of Karma, Jupiter signifies truth. If
> saturn has relationship with jupiter, person attains very good discriminating
> power under natural law of justice.
>
> Saturn + Jupiter is Brahma yoga in traditional astrology which means that person
> has the ability to forsee past, present & future.
> In many successful person this i have seen this yoga because they put proper
> justice to the work they undertake (especially if it is in 10H). If we focus the
> house and other combination we can know where this Brahma yoga is working.
> Negatively this yoga creates power seekers.
>
>
> If both these condition are met in the horoscope, there is a chance that person
> can attain spiritual enlightenment naturally with less efforts, which is the
> main purpose of birth. Person is inherently fit in the qualification required
> as per Patanjali Sutras.
> Even if person is honest and truthful towards its actions, he is sure to rise at
> soul level.
>
> -----
> Horoscope of Sh. Raman Maharashi has controversy over the lagna, Some go forÂ
> Kanya lagna and some say it is Tula lagna. The chart you have produced is from
> Tula Lagna.
>
> ----
> Thankyou,
> Regards,
> Vijay Goel
> Jaipur.
> Mob : +91 9214502239.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Finn Wandahl" finn.wandahl@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Nirmal Ji,
> >
> > Yes, and in spite of Dharmi Tewa, Mercury in H.No.2 (destroys father) and
> >Saturn in H.No.6 (destroys Jupiter) was still operational causing early death of
> >father in his 13th year. But the Maharishi himself was safe due to Dharmi Tewa.
> >
> > Then there is a story that when Ramana Maharishi was young he was sitting
> >meditating in a cave when a wild tiger came, but it didn't bite him or harm him
> >in any way and he was quite safe. This story, if true, is a perfect example of
> >Dharmi Tewa, don't you think?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Finn
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar" nirbhar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Respected Finn,
> > > I agree with your view point. This term is used widely by all lalkitab
> >astrologers. I have another opinion about this term. In my view, in Dharmi Teva,
> >the behavior of planets remains the same as it would be in a normal horoscope.
> >
> > > The only difference may be there with regards to the application of remedial
> >measures. In addition, natural help will always be there for native himself.
> >
> > > In the given example of Maharishi's life, at his 13th year of age his father
> >died & Mother died at when he was 42.
> > > He himself lived for 70 years.
> > > Therefore as far as the native himself is concerned the behaviour of planets
> >may have acted in favor of him, but for his relatives the effect of planets did
> >not changed.
> > > Regards
> > > Nirmal
> > >
> > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Finn Wandahl" <finn.wandahl@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 1. rahu/ketu in 4th or with moon in any house.
> > > > 2. shani in 11 or with jupiter in any house.
> > > >
> > > > If we read Lal Kitab in a literal manner then it is true these
> > > > combinations cause Dharmi Tewa, but perhaps this goes a little deeper. I
> > > > like to caution that Jupiter and Saturn may stay in the same sign for a
> > > > entire year, and not all horoscopes for such a long period should be
> > > > considered as genuine Dharmi Tewa.
> > > >
> > > > In the same way Moon will be with Rahu/ketu for 2½ days giving rise
> > > > to about 60 different charts, and not all af them should be considered a
> > > > real Dharmi Tewa. Many of them are only a kind of Dharmi Tewa.
> > > >
> > > > We need to distinguish between the more general trend like this and the
> > > > much more personal and specific trend when the Ascendant is taken into
> > > > consideration. Lal Kitab is after all very much an Ascendant-based
> > > > system. Please let me illustrate this with an example of a powerful
> > > > Dharmi Tewa:
> > > >
> > > > H.No. 1: Ven
> > > > H.No. 2: Merc
> > > > H.No. 3: Sun & Rahu
> > > > H.No. 5: Jup
> > > > H.No. 6: Sat
> > > > H.No. 7: Mars
> > > > H.No. 9: Moon & Ketu
> > > >
> > > > Surely this chart has got a Moon/Ketu combination, but why does this
> > > > combination turn this chart into a very strong Dharmi Tewa? Let us
> > > > analyze it more closely:
> > > >
> > > > 1) When H.No. 4 is blank it is very good and because of this H.No. 9,
> > > > occupied by the Moon, becomes very strong and benefic.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Ketu is twice exalted because of: 1) being in the 9th and 2) being
> > > > aspected by Jupiter from H.No.5.
> > > >
> > > > The chart belongs to the late Sri Ramana Maharishi.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Finn Wandahl
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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