Mr. Finn, This is the essence of ur first and
concluding mails. I shall thank you that u let 35-36 mails come in
between this period and we found some precious gems in them. With
Regards. Kulbir.
On 6/5/09, Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@
> Dear Jitin,
>
> Quote: > if someone with venus in 4th house approached you, you would
> advice him to re-marry his wife(after changing her name), then how can
> you predict that he would have 2 wives? if on one hand an astrologer
> hopes that his remedy would work, how can he predict the opposite(he can
> only fear and advice). <
>
> Actually, I am very fond of this particular Upaya. When I was in India
> back in 1990 some astrologer friends told me about a young man who
> consulted an old astrologer to get advice about his future marriage.
> However, the old astrologer found indications of widowhood in his chart
> and as a remedy he told the young man first to marry a Peepal tree, and
> then only after the Peepal tree had died he should marry the young girl
> in question.
>
> In arrangement with his family the young man soon married the Peepal
> tree and after the tree had died he married to girl, and the story tells
> they lived happily ever after. There were rumours that his would-be
> in-laws had put copper nails into the root of the Peepal tree to speed
> up the process, but I have no idea if this was actually true or not.
>
> I see no contradiction neither in the example given by you nor in the
> story about the Peepal tree. In both cases an attempt has been made to
> alter the future reality a little in order to avoid widowhood or the
> sadness of a separation, and still keep the major picture in the
> predicting of two marriages in mind. I think, sometimes this can be
> done, sometimes not, depending upon the karmas and situation of the
> planets in the charts of the couple.
>
> There is a philosophical explanation to all this. As it is, we are
> already changing destiny by looking into the horoscope in the first
> place. Actually, knowledge of things to come may sometimes change the
> final outcome.
>
> The old Hindu astrologers believed there are two kinds of Karmas: 1)
> Sthira Karma, which is indicated by the Janma Kundali itself, the
> results of which is almost completely fixed and pre-destinated. 2)
> Utpala Karma, indicated by Gochara (transits), the Varshphal kundali or
> by the Prashna Kundali, the results of which is ever changing and not
> fixed.
>
> In case of difference between the two kind of Karma, the Utpala Karma
> were said to prevail, if prayers, remedies etc. were performed.
>
> For many years I always used both the Janma Kundali and the Prashna
> Kundali, side by side, in order to get the punya right by observing both
> these kinds of Karma at the same time.
>
> As Lal Kitab astrologers, you can say we use both Janma Kundali (Sthira
> karma) and Varshphal kundalis (Utpala karma) side by side for somewhat
> similar reasons.
>
> Best wishes,
> Finn
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@
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