Astrostudents-Group Discussions: Re: [astrostudents] Re: some querry

Dear kulbirji

thanks for below.. it would be great if you can quote some examples.

You rightly said that seniors guidance is required to understand basic grammer and their guidance only can leave to a proper conclusion. i personally believe that senior guidance/input/teaching for new comer in this field is like initiating the nuclear Fission process at begining and later on it can sustain on it's own. In past also i have enquired in this forum if there is some teaching platform avble where we all new learners can grasp initial grammer and then take the study forward on our own but unfortunately for LK studies no such platform is available . whate ever practical experience /knowledge we have receive so far is through LK forums where learned persons like you, Yogirajji, Punitji , Sleekasji , Umeshji etc has contributed.

i have noted your explantion about COULD BE AND WILL BE. ill keep in ref while studying on the theory

thanks and regards

Mohit

From: kulbir bance <kulbirbance@gmail.com>
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 June, 2009 10:37:33 PM
Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: some querry

Mohit ji, the first position is to learn do tewe ki darusti. This
comes only by experience, guidance from seniors, understanding grammer
portion. I always keep in mind what Umesh Ji taught me JYOTISH
SAMBHAVANON PAR AADHARIT HAI. One change in life style. One new
relation. One change in vaastu is sufficient to bring dramatic change.
If u wish i can quote examples. So prediction part includes COULD BE.
There is no such thing as WILL BE. Same rule applies to remedies. This
COULD BE factor is the pivot around which lalkitab rotates and
revolves. Regards Kulbir.

On 6/30/09, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Dear Finn/ Mr Kulbir
>
> thank you very much for your detailed feedback and guideline. the
> practical examples and rationale approach as advise by you will definately
> help new comers like us on this methodology . after reading your below
> examples i feel much confident now to overcome the negatitvity and fear
> faced initially.
>
> thanks and regards
> Mohit Goel
>
>
>
>
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> From: Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@ gmail.com>
> To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, 26 June, 2009 2:56:14 PM
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: some querry
>
>
>
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> Dear Mohit Goel,
>
> You are right, on a surface value a lot of the information given in Lal
> Kitab might of course inspire a certain fear, if it is taken out of context,
> seen isolated and related to one's own horoscope.
>
> However, Lal Kitab itself cautions us that trying to understand the subject
> through one's own horoscope will prove counterproductive. This means, while
> studying to learn the lal Kitab we should never relate the information to
> our own horoscope.
>
> It is in fact also cautioned that we should never try to predict by one
> single planet alone, as such predictions would be loop-sided and very often
> they would simply be wrong. Actually many things need to be taken into
> consideration such as the Grammar of Lal Kitab, the special rules connected
> to each planet, to each house position, to each two-planet combination,
> etc., etc. Please let me illustrate this by way of the example given by your
> own good self.
>
> You have mentioned that if Ketu is in House No.1, and if that person has
> some love affair outside marriage, then he would be ruined. This means that
> the person would have such a love affair provided this is also indicated by
> at least one other factor in the horoscope. Then again this love affair
> would lead to his ruin provided this is also indicated by at least one other
> factor in the horoscope.
>
> But isn't Ketu supposed to be benefic in H.No.1? And what has Ketu in H.No.1
> got to do with love affair outside marriage? And what has it got to do with
> financial ruin?
>
> Sure, Ketu by itself is no doubt benefic in H.No..1, and it has even got
> some very benefic side-affects as well since it exalts the Sun, wherever the
> Sun may be posited. Not only that, it also makes Jupiter benefic wherever it
> is posited. This means, if Ketu in H.No.1 is supported by other factors, it
> may even cause Raja Yoga and elevate the person to high position, etc. But
> all this is wonderful, what is then the problem?
>
> Well, Ketu is no doubt exalting the Sun, but when the Sun is exalted, Venus
> becomes malefic. This is especially so in the Varshphal Kundali.
>
> Besides this when Ketu is in H.No.1, the Moon become of zero value and
> Mercury, Venus & Rahu becomes malefic all of them.
>
> When Ketu is in H.No.1 Rahu will normally be in H.No.7. And now we know that
> this Rahu will be malefic and both Venus & Mercury the significators of
> H.No.7 are turned turtle and malefic. Therefore - if one or more other
> factors supports this, then the love-life will be badly affected.
>
> Surely the Moon being zero and Mercury, Venus & Rahu being malefic may cause
> financial ruin provided some other factors points in the same direction.
>
> Best wishes,
> Finn Wandahl
>
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@. . .> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Finn
>>
>> Allow me for some in between communication.
>>
>> i am learner on lal kitaab and as you rightly guided that it should be
>> read with patience and thorugh knowledge , but as a learner when we go
>> through the chapters we encounter lots of areas where prohibited things
>> are written or where precauations /warnings are written along with the
>> negative outcome if person violate the rules, say for eg :
>>
>> Moon in 3rd house : ladki rinn and its negative effects.
>>
>> Ketu in 1st house : if person has some extra maritial affairs , he would
>> be ruined and like wise example.
>>
>> Unconsiuouly , un knowingly you relate these areas with your horoscope and
>> ends up with full of negativity .. On the top of it there are few
>> astrologers who give sermon on LK on TV channels and constantly highlight
>> dos and donts and their nagative repurcursions without any rationale .
>> They state thing a person can imagine
>>
>> via this forum and subject, i would request to advise all our new comers
>> that how we can adopt LK without being devaited by all negativity written
>> in subsections. To us these negative things are magnified as we have
>> limited knoweldge and rationale till we pick up the right way to adapt
>> this blissful knowledge...
>>
>> please advise
>>
>> regards
>> Mohit Goel
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