Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: Name : kind attention Bhandari ji

Respected Nirmal ji

I fully agree with you that the word "Naam" means social status not the name of a person. The next word "Haisiyat" and the complete word "Naam Haisiyat" itself are self explanatory.

In my humble opinion, Pundit ji just indicated regarding the belief of some people (baa'zon ney) only, and not at all accepted this theory. If the name of a person's name had any significance whatsoever- Pundit Ji would not have emphasized the following while describing the methodology of Lal kitab:

"........Ism naam ko bhi uDaa deti hai." (Lal Kitab 1941, page no. 3 line 11)

Respectfully
Yograj Prabhakar

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Kulbir Ji,
> in my view it as a good practice to fix the name of a native in such a way
> that you can know the birth data from his name. Normally it was done by
> relating the name of the person with some incident, day, time at the timeof
> birthetc etc. In Punjab, I used to find the person having name ,som nath,
> Mangal, Budh ram or budhu, Veeru, baaru etc etc linked with the day of
> birth, Chet ram for chaitra birth, visakhu for viskakha birth, Pooran for
> punima birth and so on.. The astrologer normaly know the nature of person
> knowing the position of moon & sun in the Nakshatra. As explained by
> Bhandari Ji, There are 108 Nakshatra pada or divisions also called Navamsha.
> Each division has been assigned a letter(Character) by our anscestors. The
> first character of name of a person is based upon the postion of Moon in
> the particular division/pada of Nakshatra and character assigned to that
> pada and similarlyThe first character of second word of the name is kept
> with the position of sun in patrtcular pada. In my point of view, this is a
> great method devised by our ancestor astrologers to know the about the
> position of moon & Sun at birth time from the name of the Person. This is
> good algorithm devised by them and is still being followed in rural areas of
> India.
> regarding
> //".... ISLIYE SIRF NAAM PAR HI BAAZON NE KISMAT KA ASAR
> MANA HAI" the popular method is to derive the first alphabet
> corresponding to the chandra rashi nakshatra. Lalkitab gutka page 7
> line 7 pakka ghar no.1 says " .... NAAM HASIYAT DUNIYA LENGE. //
> In first line In my opinion, Pt. Ji Has just given a reference that some
> persons give preference to the alphatbetics of the names to make boost the
> Luck. This practice is being widely followed/advised presently by
> astrologers having Numerology base and By some vedic astrologer by not using
> the albhabets assigned to nakshatra Padas which comes under the bad planets
> and owner of Bad houses.
> Regading "Naam Haisiyat Duniya Lenge" in my opinion The word naam here is
> being used to refer the status of the person in community.
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
>
> 2009/6/6 Mr Bhandari <bhandari1951@...>
>
> >
> >
> > *Respected Kulbir Ji,*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *It is quite an interesting question, which you have asked with reference
> > to LAL KITAB.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *In our PUNJAB area, or we may say in NORTH INDIA, where LAL KITAB is
> > having its origin, some people select names of their child: *
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *(1) as per birth time calculations (BIRTH RASHI SIGN), and only one
> > alphabet is selected for one segment of constellation in which the child is
> > born, so there are only four words, which may fall within one constellation,
> > and there are total nine words quoted for one sign, as there are 2.25
> > constellations allocated to every sign of zodiac.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *(2) Only select one name alphabet (NAME RASHI SIGN), as per their
> > religious rites or that name may be given by any elderly person of that
> > family to that child.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Here, we will find, that 1st is according to BIRTH RASHI SIGN, where as 2
> > nd is selected, in which case it is not confirmed whether that word may
> > pertain to RASHI SIGN or not, but both these names suggest something, as it
> > was also quoted in our ANCIENT ASTROLOGICAL books such as SHEEGHAR BODH, a
> > very small book, but contains wonderful information, which I have learned
> > from our old traditional PANDIT JI.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Difference in the use of these both names is as under:*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *At the time of marriage, to check the influences of malefic planets
> > during transit and in Kundli Matching, fixing marriage date etc., BIRTH
> > RASHI SIGN name will be used.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Similarly, at a time of fight between two enemies for checking out
> > influence of planets, to work out Mahurta for construction of House or
> > establishing some other work, to check influence of any city from name, on
> > that person where he/she wants to reside, NAME RASHI will work with more
> > accuracy as compared with that BIRTH RASHI.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *According to this, both signs, whether that is a BIRTH RASHI SIGN or A
> > NAME RASHI SIGN are having their utility value at their desired level.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *AS, THE NAME OF A PERSON IS NEVER FIXED ACCORDING TO ASCEDENT, IT IS ONLY
> > FIXED ACCORDING TO BIRTH RASHI SIGN OR SOMETIMES WITHOUT THIS, SO IT IS NOT
> > ADVISED TO USE NAME SIGN OR RASHI SIGN AS IN HOUSE NUMBER ONE, i.e. as
> > ASCENDENT, EXCEPT IN CASE, WHERE RASHI SIGN AND ASCENDENT SIGN ARE SAME
> > ACCORDING TO HOROSCOPE.*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *With regards¡¡rabinder bhandari*
> >
> >
> > 2009/6/6 kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Respected Bhandari ji, lalkitab armaan page one last para; it is
> >> written that ".... ISLIYE SIRF NAAM PAR HI BAAZON NE KISMAT KA ASAR
> >> MANA HAI" the popular method is to derive the first alphabet
> >> corresponding to the chandra rashi nakshatra. Lalkitab gutka page 7
> >> line 7 pakka ghar no.1 says " .... NAAM HASIYAT DUNIYA LENGE. Can we
> >> name a child considering planets in house no 1 in sucg a way that the
> >> name of the child gives a boost to his destiny. Kindly share your
> >> learned views on this aspect. Regards. Kulbir.
> >>
> >> On 6/5/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@... <nirbhar%40gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dear Tahmasp ,
> >> >
> >> > Here is an excrepts from the Chiero Famous book 'Language of Hand'. Here
> >> > Chiero discussed about Lalkitab. I highlighted the related text.
> >> > Regards
> >> > Nirmal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2009-06-05
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ·¢¼þÈË£º shahtahmasp
> >> > ·¢ËÍÊ±¼ä£º 2009-06-04 19:59:36
> >> > ÊÕ¼þÈË£º astrostudents
> >> > ³ËÍ£º
> >> > Ö÷Ìâ£º [astrostudents] Palmistry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sarey buzurk members ko Salaam I have a question regarding the
> >> similarity or
> >> > differences in western palmistry from authors like the
> >> > very succesful Cheiro and our Lal Kitab
> >> > Respectfully
> >> > Tahmasp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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