Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Re: [astrostudents] Re: Upayagers or Astrologers ?



Respected Kulbir Paji - In situations like planets having backward-facing vision like Mars 5th or Saturn 8th, would the same logic in the natal chart need to be applied to the varshphal as well?

For example if Mars 5th came to 3rd house in varshphal then by your logic
It should present its results in 2nd house, and LK says that all planets are looking back one house. Then would all planets in the varshphal have similar effect? Would Mars show results in 2nd or 3rd month?

Best Regards,
Iqbal



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From: "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj"
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:56:27 -0000
To: <astrostudents@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: Upayagers or Astrologers ?

Dear Kulbir Ji,
Truly speaking this is a big subject for me. I am still treat myself at learning stage. I hope will be going for this soon.
Regards
Nirmal
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Nirmal ji, have u worked upon the issue as to various
> methods/aspects of varshphal analysis can be synchoronized. After all
> we have to keep each in mind. Regards. Kulbir.
>
> On 6/7/09, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
> > Jitin ji, there are exceptions to this rule. 1. The planet that
> > occupies a certain house will give its result in that month
> > corressponding to the house no. Occupied by it e.g. Of mer in 2nd
> > house in varshphal is given in the book. Here the monthly chart
> > erected by moving sun will show different position of mer. But since
> > mer. is in 2 in varshphal. Mer will show its results in the 2nd month
> > predominantly. So is the case with other planets. 2ndly the current
> > year has to be divided by the house occupied by the planet. The
> > remainder shows the actual effect of that planet in that year. Plz
> > read further in the book. Then their are some specific conditions laid
> > down related to natal and varshphal placement of some planets e.g.
> > When mer of 9 will come in 11 in varshphal. Then there is dhoke ka
> > grah. Then us saal rashi no. Ke bolne wale grah Mathematical rules
> > don't help. U will have to master or atleast try the art of
> > synchoronizing all these aspects. For calculative part the software is
> > there in the files section. But synchoronizing is up to you. Regards.
> > Kulbir.
> >
> > On 6/7/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@...> wrote:
> >> Respected Mr. Wandahl,
> >> Sometimes i am thick as a wall to grasp things, but you have explained
> >> this
> >> method in the most easy to understand way via an example.
> >> Your calculation or just "shifting of lagna" seems logical and easy too.
> >>
> >> Thank you once again sir and keep guiding us like this.
> >>
> >> Sincerely
> >> Jitin Syal
> >>
> >> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Finn Wandahl" <finn.wandahl@>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Jitin,
> >>>
> >>> Quote: > However if i may can i please request you to elaborate the
> >>> monthly chart system (according to your easier calculation) <
> >>>
> >>> You must be referring to the explanation in my earlier message to
> >>> Yograj. Well, it is actually very simple. I will illustrate the method
> >>> by way of an example.
> >>>
> >>> Yesterday I made the horoscope for a young man born in India. This is
> >>> the Varshphal kundali for his 24th year. Please draw it:
> >>>
> >>> H.No. 5: Sun & Merc
> >>> H.No. 6: Ven
> >>> H. No. 7: Saturn
> >>> H.No. 8: Moon & Ketu
> >>> H.No. 10: Rahu
> >>> H.No. 11: Mars
> >>> H.No. 12: Jupiter
> >>>
> >>> Normally to find the Monthly chart you would move the Sun to the Lagna,
> >>> and move the Sun one house for each month, keeping the planets in their
> >>> respective positions with respect to the Sun.
> >>>
> >>> However, you may just as well move the Lagna to the Sun, and then move
> >>> the Lagna backwards at the rate one house for each month. The results
> >>> will be exactly the same. Except that this method is much faster and
> >>> easier, since you can read the monthly charts directly out of the
> >>> Varshphal Kundali.
> >>>
> >>> Example:
> >>>
> >>> The year begin from the young mans 24th years birthday. The Sun is in
> >>> H.No. 5, so put the Lagna in H.No. 5 and keep the planets as they are.
> >>> This will be the monthly chart of the 1st month. With a sharp eye you
> >>> have to look at the whole chart from the 5th house, and you can easily
> >>> see that Sun & Merc is in the 1st, Ven in the 2nd, Saturn in the 3rd
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>> To find the chart of the 2nd month you move the Lagna backwards to H.No.
> >>> 4 and observe the whole chart from H.No. 4 in the regular order as if
> >>> H.No. 4 was the Lagna...
> >>>
> >>> To find the chart of the 3rd month you move the Lagna backwards to H.No.
> >>> 3, for the 4th month you move Lagna to H.No. 2... etc. etc.
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>> Finn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Respected sir,
> >>> > Thanks for sharing your deep knowledge of the subject once again, it
> >>> has/will help lot of students like me.However if i may can i please
> >>> request you to elaborate the monthly chart system (according to your
> >>> easier calculation) with the help of an example as i am a very slow
> >>> learner.
> >>> >
> >>> > Sincerely
> >>> > Jitin Syal
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my mobile device
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>

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