Astrostudents-Group Discussions: Re: [astrostudents] Upayagers or Astrologers ?

Jitin ji, an example is given in the example kundalis given in the
book. I would have liked to share but frankly speaking i have no
experience how to apply it. Regards. Kulbir.

On 6/11/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Respected paaji,
> Kindly also share how you take intermediate planets effect into account in
> varshphal?
> thanks
> yours respectfuly
> Jitin Syal
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear jitin, first step is to take the date of birth according to
>> indian calendar instead of georgian calendar. New year begins when sun
>> enters mesh rashi in (pt ji has specifically mentioned the word
>> TAKRABEEN) 13 April. As u know sometimes this date shifts 1-2 days
>> back and forth. Angrazi tarikh ke hisaab se suraj ke asar me farq aa
>> sakta hai. Thereafter pt ji gave a table that talks about asar ka
>> mahina where approximate dates are given to corelate the indian and
>> georgian calendar. Here too u will find word TAKREEBAN in the starting
>> of 3rd row of the table. Regards. Kulbir.
>>
>> On 6/7/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@...> wrote:
>> > Respected Kulbir paaji,
>> > It's always very nice to have a brotherly guidance, so thank you for
>> > that.
>> > if you can, please clarify one doubt. Pt. ji has written about months
>> > according to birth year i.e person born on 20th july would have his
>> > first
>> > month from 20 july-20 august and so on. and Pt. ji also mentioned other
>> > monthly system(traditional punjabi system)i.e vaisakh etc from 13th
>> > april so
>> > on.
>> >
>> > how are these 2 different systems to be used and when??
>> >
>> > please share your knowledge and experience.
>> > thanks in advance
>> >
>> > sincerely
>> > Jitin Syal
>> >
>> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Jitin ji, there are exceptions to this rule. 1. The planet that
>> >> occupies a certain house will give its result in that month
>> >> corressponding to the house no. Occupied by it e.g. Of mer in 2nd
>> >> house in varshphal is given in the book. Here the monthly chart
>> >> erected by moving sun will show different position of mer. But since
>> >> mer. is in 2 in varshphal. Mer will show its results in the 2nd month
>> >> predominantly. So is the case with other planets. 2ndly the current
>> >> year has to be divided by the house occupied by the planet. The
>> >> remainder shows the actual effect of that planet in that year. Plz
>> >> read further in the book. Then their are some specific conditions laid
>> >> down related to natal and varshphal placement of some planets e.g.
>> >> When mer of 9 will come in 11 in varshphal. Then there is dhoke ka
>> >> grah. Then us saal rashi no. Ke bolne wale grah Mathematical rules
>> >> don't help. U will have to master or atleast try the art of
>> >> synchoronizing all these aspects. For calculative part the software is
>> >> there in the files section. But synchoronizing is up to you. Regards.
>> >> Kulbir.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/7/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@> wrote:
>> >> > Respected Mr. Wandahl,
>> >> > Sometimes i am thick as a wall to grasp things, but you have
>> >> > explained
>> >> > this
>> >> > method in the most easy to understand way via an example.
>> >> > Your calculation or just "shifting of lagna" seems logical and easy
>> >> > too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you once again sir and keep guiding us like this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sincerely
>> >> > Jitin Syal
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Finn Wandahl" <finn.wandahl@>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear Jitin,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Quote: > However if i may can i please request you to elaborate the
>> >> >> monthly chart system (according to your easier calculation) <
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You must be referring to the explanation in my earlier message to
>> >> >> Yograj. Well, it is actually very simple. I will illustrate the
>> >> >> method
>> >> >> by way of an example.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yesterday I made the horoscope for a young man born in India. This
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> the Varshphal kundali for his 24th year. Please draw it:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> H.No. 5: Sun & Merc
>> >> >> H.No. 6: Ven
>> >> >> H. No. 7: Saturn
>> >> >> H.No. 8: Moon & Ketu
>> >> >> H.No. 10: Rahu
>> >> >> H.No. 11: Mars
>> >> >> H.No. 12: Jupiter
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Normally to find the Monthly chart you would move the Sun to the
>> >> >> Lagna,
>> >> >> and move the Sun one house for each month, keeping the planets in
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> respective positions with respect to the Sun.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, you may just as well move the Lagna to the Sun, and then
>> >> >> move
>> >> >> the Lagna backwards at the rate one house for each month. The
>> >> >> results
>> >> >> will be exactly the same. Except that this method is much faster and
>> >> >> easier, since you can read the monthly charts directly out of the
>> >> >> Varshphal Kundali.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Example:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The year begin from the young mans 24th years birthday. The Sun is
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> H.No. 5, so put the Lagna in H.No. 5 and keep the planets as they
>> >> >> are.
>> >> >> This will be the monthly chart of the 1st month. With a sharp eye
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> have to look at the whole chart from the 5th house, and you can
>> >> >> easily
>> >> >> see that Sun & Merc is in the 1st, Ven in the 2nd, Saturn in the 3rd
>> >> >> etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To find the chart of the 2nd month you move the Lagna backwards to
>> >> >> H.No.
>> >> >> 4 and observe the whole chart from H.No. 4 in the regular order as
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> H.No. 4 was the Lagna...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To find the chart of the 3rd month you move the Lagna backwards to
>> >> >> H.No.
>> >> >> 3, for the 4th month you move Lagna to H.No. 2... etc. etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best wishes,
>> >> >> Finn
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "jitinsyal82" <jitinsyal82@>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Respected sir,
>> >> >> > Thanks for sharing your deep knowledge of the subject once again,
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> has/will help lot of students like me.However if i may can i please
>> >> >> request you to elaborate the monthly chart system (according to your
>> >> >> easier calculation) with the help of an example as i am a very slow
>> >> >> learner.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sincerely
>> >> >> > Jitin Syal
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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