Dear Rajinder,
I find the way you verify the horoscopes by palmistry and physiognomy
extremely impressive. I know that sometimes you draw a picture of the
persons face based on his horoscope (Something like what the FBI do
with the criminals based on witness reports). Sometimes you draw a
picture of the clients palm showing the lines in the palm and sometimes
you even draw his feet.
Unfortunately, this far I am only able to do this on a very small scale
based on the hints that Pt. Roop Chand Joshi has given with a few
planets, like Mercury in H.No. 2 is supposed to give the person a broad,
long, outside bulging face. Or Mercury in H.No. 6 giving a round face,
whereas Ketu in H.No. 6 gives a beautiful or good-looking face. I did
however find these combinations to work very well in the actual
horoscopes of the clients.
Needless to say that I completely agree with you that the knowledge to
make predictions about the future is all there in Lal Kitab. All we
need to do is to take it up and use it.
Best wishes,
Finn
--- In astrostudents@
<rajinderbhatia2002
>
> Dear Finn,
> You have raised very valid points in your thought provoking Email. For
the last so many years, I have been emphasizing and re-emphasizing the
issue of horoscope verification. That is the most fundamental and most
important issue before proceeding any further in horoscope analysis.
Fortunately, many have tried to follow the path as shown by Pt Rup Chand
ji. Of course, there is a vast majority who make the horoscope, and
hand out umpteen remedial measures from a ready-made list.Â
You, Yograj jee and I have talked about these issues at length. Your
adherence to the basic premise of horoscope
verification/
impressive. Deservingly, you have been very successful at “tewa
durusti.† Personally, I try to utilize Lal Kitab based
palmistry and physiognomy, whenever possible. It has provided me
with extra insight in the verification and correction process.
> Â Â
> There has been a common misconception regarding the prediction of
future using LalKitab. Â Lal Kitab does not prohibit it (except in
very specific cases like predicting one's time of death, the sex
of an unborn baby, etc.) If I may say so, LalKitab has more
information on predicting the future than we can absorb. Along with
the general tendencies described for each planet (which would hold true
always) the simplest and the biggest resource that one can work with
is the varshphal chart. You have the entire view of the future,
year-by-year, at your finger-tips. Simply, by keeping the
varshphal chart in front of you and knowing if and when certain
conditions will be met, you can make predictions with almost
pin-point accuracy (provided the natal chart has undergone tewa-durusti,
first.) One can also use LalKitab based palmistry to see the
future tendencies and obtain extremely satisfactory results. The only
caveat, which can’t be ignored,
> is: will the planets (on whose basis we are making a prediction for
the future) be benefic or malefic at that time?  One’s
lifestyle may undergo radical change which may cause malefic or benefic
planets to switch sides. Change of environment (house, for example) or
inadvertent placement of items in one’s place of residence or
family members' interaction may cause things to change for better or for
worse. These unknown events of the future may make predictions to become
flawed. Why LalKitab astrologers don’t make predictions, I
don’t have a good answer for that. Possibly, a lack of confidence
and/or experience could be a factor. Maybe many have not thought about
using the varshphal chart as an invaluable guide. My reason for not
getting too much into the predictive part is “if you take care of
the present, the future will take care of itself.†A LalKitab
astrologer has a full gamut of capability at his/her disposal and should
use it, as
> needed. The choice is personal. But the knowledge is all there!
> Â
> Thanks again for writing.
> Â
> Sincerely,
> Â
> Rajinder Bhatia
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl@
>
>
> From: Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl@
> Subject: [astrostudents] Upayagers or Astrologers ?
> To: astrostudents@
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:47 PM
>
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>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> The discussion going on at the moment is very interesting to follow.
The importance of Tewa Darusthi is being emphasized, which is always
very good, since Lal Kitab is an Ascendant-based kind of astrology. I
have been able to notice bad examples of Lal Kitab astrologers giving
out Upayas to people without doing any kind of Tewa Darusthi. This means
these ignorant astrologers cannot possibly be sure if the chart is
correctly calculated or not.
>
> As a matter of fact this is not the first time a problem like this
have been seen in India. Around the 7th century AD the great
astronomer/astrolog er Varaha Mihira wrote that a miscalculation of an
astrologer is as sinful as the murder of a Brahmin. Actually, I think
this proves that there was astrologers who was indiscriminately using
wrong chart even at the time of Varaha Mihira. Otherwise he would never
have given such a strong statement.
>
> My personal opinion is that any astrologer who is using an
Ascendant-based kind of astrology without verifying whether or not the
Ascendant is correct is nothing but a big charlatan. However, this goes
on every day and it surely gives a bad name to Lal Kitab, when the
charlatans belong to this category of astrologers. Anyway, there is
not so much we can do about this problem, except to do our very best
when we, who are supposed to be the good guys, do the horoscopes
ourselves. But are we really doing our best, or are some of us
perhaps getting a little lazy? This is actually a very important
question. Since - after all - no astrologer, however big or famous,Â
is any better than the last horoscope he did.
>
> There is a certain critizism about Lal Kitab astrologers that I have
often among the other kinds of Hindu astrologers and even among some few
western astrologers as well. They say, when you consult a Lal Kitab
astrologer, he will ask you a number of highly relevant questions about
your life, which clearly confirms the correctness of your chart, and he
would even pin-point at certain events going on in certain years of the
past. He may even say thing about the present situations, being
precisely correct. But when it comes to the future, he either can or
will not give any predictions at all, but rather gives a large number of
Upayas (remedies) to guard agains any bad elements in the near future,
normally without even telling what malefic event the remedy is supposed
to guard against.
>
> No doubt a lot of relevant things are being said during an Lal Kitab
consultation. I mean say, if Saturn is malefic in the 6th in the
Varshphal we would caution against buying new leather shoes in that
year. This is in my opinion a good and sound piece of astrological
advice. And we have a lot of relevant information like that to share
with our clients. But given the knowledge about the past and present
that we present to the client, isn't it only natural that he/she also
expect something like that to be said about the future? And not only
Upayas, however relevant they may be.
>
> I think there is some element of truth is this critizism against Lal
Kitab astrologers. If I am right then we need to ask ourselves some
questions: Are we becoming so arrogant against astrology that we no
longer care about giving predictions about the future? Did Pt. Roop
Chand Joshi ever say anything against giving predictions about the
future? (Except of course that predictions should be given with due
caution and all the necessary ethical consideration, etc. etc.). Are we
somehow forgetting what it means to be astrologers? Are weÂ
developing into Upayagers rather then Astrologers?
>
> Best regards,
> Finn Wandahl Â
> Â
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> Â
>
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