Dear Mr. Kulbir,
Your apology is accepted and thank you for the same. I know it takes a
good man to freely admit his mistakes, and I very much respect that,
dear friend.
I very much agree with Mr. Kondal that all this should not be a reason
for you to stop writing. It is true that you are sometimes a bit
irritating, but I can live with that. Especially since you also at other
times inspire good discussion.
Best wishes,
Finn Wandahl
--- In astrostudents@
wrote:
>
> Mr. Finn, i beg pardon for disturbing/irritati
> by diverting good astrological discussion. Kindly carry on with ur
> good job. Wish u all the best. Regards. Kulbir.
>
> On 7/5/09, Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl@
> > Dear Mr. Kulbir,
> >
> >>>...the study of this book or astrology is confined to 3 principle
> > concerns. 1. Comfortable mundane existence. 2. Harmonious
interpersonal
> > relations 3. Direction for self perfection..
> >
> > Sure, this is no doubt one way to see it. However, there are also
some
> > important astrological and predictive aspects of Lal Kitab
astrology,
> > highly useful for verification of the horoscopes of the clients and
for
> > giving them good, sound predictions and advices as well.
> >
> >
> >>>...U don't approve of this topic then please attend to pending
> > discussions like the faisla kundali of 1942 page 381 so many topics
are
> > pending in the groups. U can contribute there...<<
> >
> > Please, my good Sir, you can rest ussured that I am sufficiently
> > competent to decide myself where to contribute and where not to
> > contribute. But thank you anyway ;-)
> >
> >
> >>>...Why did this topic disturb rather irritate you...?<<
> >
> > I generally find it disturbing when good astrological discussion is
> > being turned into religious/spiritual discussion. It is like
deviating
> > from the original topic of the discussion and therefore it becomes -
as
> > you say - kind of irritating.
> >
> > Basically I think Yograj is right when saying that people can read
Lal
> > Kitab anyway they like as their democratic right. This is no doubt
very
> > true.
> >
> > However, when it is being suggested publicly that Lal Kitab should
be
> > read spiritually, then I think it is only fair to object. After all,
the
> > Lal Kitab is not a religious or spiritual text, but an astrological
> > text, and it should be read as such.
> >
> > The statement that Lal Kitab should be read spiritually might, when
said
> > in public, mislead some of the new or less advanced students of Lal
> > Kitab. I can say for sure that a statement like this would have have
> > been a problem for my own good self at an earlier stage.
> >
> >
> >>>...Such sweeping statements behove of a person who has mastered all
> > aspects of the book. Ur mail suggests that u think u have done
so...<<
> >
> > Actually, I feel somewhat misunderstood by this statement. The
truth
> > is that I consider my knowledge of Lal Kitab to be rather limited
for
> > obvious reasons. However, I am in a learning process and hopefully I
> > will be able to continue to develop my skills and further compensate
my
> > deficiencies also in the future.
> >
> > I was however able to observe the discussion going astray and to see
the
> > need for some kind of sweeping statements, as you so kindly call
it.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Finn Wandahl
> >
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Respected Mr. Finn; the study of this book or astrology is
confined
> >> to 3 principle concerns. 1. Comfortable mundane existence. 2.
> >> Harmonious interpersonal relations 3. Direction for self
perfection.
> >> Pt no 3 can have different meanings for different persons. Sir,
this
> >> was a tradition with zen masters. After teaching his student the
> >> master send his pupil to other master who didn't approve of his
> >> methods so that the pupil could decide the best for himself. Sir,
this
> >> somebody has ample time for study and is no hurry to become a
> >> professional astrologer. U don't approve of this topic then please
> >> attend to pending discussions like the faisla kundali of 1942 page
381
> >> so many topics are pending in the groups. U can contribute there.
Why
> >> did this topic disturb rather irritate you. Such sweeping
statements
> >> behove of a person who has mastered all aspects of the book. Ur
mail
> >> suggests that u think u have done so. But Sir, leave aside this (as
ur
> >> words) Mr. P but when a person like Sh. Upadhaya quotes kabir in
> >> lalkitab discussions and kondal sir endorses it what is the harm in
> >> trying. Anyway i am highly obliged by ur concern. Kindly show same
> >> intensified concern to other aspects of pending topics also. Thanx
and
> >> Regards. Kulbir.
> >>
> >> On 7/4/09, Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl@ wrote:
> >> > Dear members,
> >> >
> >> > I like to say that I find this present discussion a little
> > disturbing
> >> > and also somewhat out of context.
> >> >
> >> > In one of the messages somebody said: "P.......... told me that
read
> >> > lalkitab as a spiritual book".
> >> >
> >> > About LK-Astrology it is clearly stated in the introduction-
of
> >> > LK-1952, I quote: "It comprises of all worldly considerations
> > without
> >> > any claim to divinity".
> >> >
> >> > This means Lal Kitab is not about spiritual or religious
matters,
> > and
> >> > therefore it should not be read as such.
> >> >
> >> > Lal Kitab also appears to be a secular text, capable of being
> > studied by
> >> > people belonging to any religion, muslims, budhists, sikhs,
hindus,
> >> > christians, jains, jews or those who belong to no religion at all
> >> > (ateists). This means even a sinner like my own good self,
belonging
> > to
> >> > the christian faith, protestant church, can study it with good
> > results
> >> > like everybody else.
> >> >
> >> > Lal Kitab is a Jyotish Granth, meaning it is about the Shastra
of
> >> > astrology, and it is designed to teach astrology to its readers.
> > Each
> >> > and every page is pregnant with astrological information, but not
> >> > spiritual or religious information.
> >> >
> >> > Dear Sirs, we are supposed to read out of the text, not into the
> > text.
> >> >
> >> > Best wishes,
> >> > Finn Wandahl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from my mobile device
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
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