Monday, July 13, 2009

Re: [astrostudents] Re: Knock Knock - Some Fundamentals! - Bunty Arora ji



Guruji, it is not fair at all. How could u forget Gopal Krishan ji?
These persons do tewe ki darusti from a data. Don't want to create a
controversy here but why did u not even mention the name of the person
who draws a horoscope without asking any birth data. Without even
looking at the palm. Pata nahin Kar ki rahe ho! If i am wrong kindly
correct me otherwise approve this message. Regards. Kulbir.

On 7/13/09, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Arora ji
>
> You are right that sometimes the planetary configuration may change
> completely. If you read the Lal Kitab carefully (where various planets
> in various houses are written) each and every line is nothing but the
> indications towards theTewa Darustee. In my humble opinion the art of
> Tewa Darustee is like proper diagnose that is a Must before
> recommending/predicting anything, One learn this art with practical
> experience and the blessings of the seniors. I learned a lot in this
> regard from Shri Rajinder Bhatia jee, Pt. Umesh Sharma jee and Shri Finn
> Wandahl jee.These three great scholars are the best in Tewa Darustee.
>
> Unlike my few colleagues, I have no apprehension what so ever if you
> share any telephonic discussion we had, provided, it is relevant and
> not against the forum rules. My dear friend, I am like "nanga putt
> choran vich khoDey." hence I have nothing to loose rather surely to
> gain something instead.
>
> Please keep up the good work.
>
> Sincerely
> Yograj Prabhakar
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "buntyarora2626" <AroraBN@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> Can I make a judgment here that... the basic janam kundali may not
> have any relevance in Lalkitab unless checked / re-checked & verified
> with other methods. The planetary positions may just change completely.
>>
>> While I once spoke to Shri Prabahakar ji over phone, and somehow topic
> arose of Mangal #8th house... and as I mentioned to him.."Yeah mine is
> Mangal #8 too!" He categorically mentioned ... "it can't be" Reasons he
> gave were amazing - "Your voice is not of a Mangal#8 person... It is
> more likely Mangal#9; Second he predicted my younger brother won't be
> 8yrs younger to me.. which I confirmed in positive... he is 4 yrs
> younger to me"
>>
>> Though it is bit disturbing idea to make a new kundli altogether for
> diving further into predictions and upayas. But... THAT IS IT. And, I
> think...that's the only way forward....
>>
>> * Prabhakar ji, hope it is OK to share my telephonic experience here.
>>
>> thanks & best regards,
>> Bunty Arora
>>
>>
>> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance kulbirbance@ wrote:
>> >
>> > Arora ji, lalkitab system has some unique features. Lets take ur
>> > querries point wise. Regarding point one ; rahu and ketu may not be
> in
>> > 1-7 position. Sun venus mercury are not confined to a particular
>> > degree/house difference. It is a general assumption that condition
>> > arises only in varshphal BUT no palmistry portion and vaastu clears
> it
>> > all. So even if horoscope is made by computer and time is correct to
>> > second then also tewa darusti has to be done. There is another angle
>> > also. For reference u can read sh. Rabinder Bhandari's mail
> regarding
>> > using different ayanamshas. Regards. Kulbir.
>> >
>> > On 7/10/09, buntyarora2626 AroraBN@ wrote:
>> > > Dear Sirs,
>> > >
>> > > I have been trying to spend sometime on the sacred LalKitabs...
>> > > I know it is not easy... I have gone through many messages in this
> group
>> > > advising numerous readings, lot of commitment and sipirtual
> maturity to
>> > > understand the book and the wealth of knowledge therein.
>> > > ("Got to Die ... if one desires Heaven....")
>> > >
>> > > May I still have Guru-jan's patience to confirm something very
> basic and
>> > > fundamental... Just to check if I am groping in dark or Am I in
> right
>> > > direction...
>> > >
>> > > Assumptions at back of my mind while relating a horoscope with
> lalkitab...
>> > >
>> > > 1. Tewa Drusti is step #1. However, if someone is very sure of
> DATE, EXACT
>> > > TIME AND PLACE and has a proper computerized horoscope... This
> step may be
>> > > avoided for sake of planetry positions. Right?
>> > > However, to check if a planet is benefic or malefic in a given
> house, that
>> > > can be checked w.r.t predictions for given planetary postion.
> Right?
>> > >
>> > > 2. The planets in different houses in Janam Kundali are refered
> with respect
>> > > to Lal Kitab predictions and they form the basis of... 'what life
> unfolds
>> > > for us.' i.e Janam Kundli planets have maximum significance for...
> 'what
>> > > becomes of us in future.' (off-course after understanding the
> complexity of
>> > > combinations, aspects etc)
>> > >
>> > > 3. Varshphal Kundli planets have only temporary affect... only to
> the extent
>> > > of what is indicated by janam kundli planet positions. The
> predictions of
>> > > 'permanent nature' in varshaphal positions may not apply.
>> > >
>> > > Example - Shani in house #6 of janam kundli ... states "after 42
> years it
>> > > brings real prosperity"...(off-course assuming it satisfies all
> the Sat #6
>> > > conditions). In that case, although Shani will move to different
> houses
>> > > during 1 to 41 years... and may have much better positions and
> predictions.
>> > > But, Janam Kundli prediction will rule over it. Correct?
>> > >
>> > > I know above is too much of a short cut and there might be many
> jewels
>> > > hiding in so many other pages of Lalkitabs.... which may nullify
> above
>> > > analysis. Something like 'Dharmai Tewa' which might be covered
> separately
>> > > and not in planetry positions / predictions...
>> > >
>> > > My idea here is just to understand... if there is any light at the
> end of
>> > > the tunnel... I am in?
>> > >
>> > > Hope seniors / masters will understand my viewpoint...
>> > >
>> > > Please ignore if someone doesn't like my idea of using words like
>> > > 'sacred'... 'predictions' etc.
>> > >
>> > > Please enlighten.
>> > >
>> > > best regards,
>> > >
>> > > Bunty Arora
>> > > +91 99670 50849
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sent from my mobile device
>> >
>>
>
>

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