Kondal Sahib, i can understand " kuch to mazbooriyan rahin hongi, yon
hi koi bewafa nahin hota " kai gal tuhade kis ne par katte ne. Tussin
kyon nahin bolde. Chalo jo tuhada zameer kahe. Regards. Kulbir.
On 7/30/09, maneshwar singh kondal <mskondal@yahoo.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: maneshwar singh kondal <mskondal@yahoo.
> To: astrostudents@
> Cc: maneshwar singh kondal <mskondal@yahoo.
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:14:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Aakhiri kundli - Another angle
>
>
>
> dated 30-7-2009
> parindon ko manzil milengi yakeenan
> yeh faile hue unke par bolte hai
>
> wohi log rehte hai khaamosh aksar
> zamaane mein jinke hunar bolte hai......
>
> charan pranaam to all respected senior members ,and hello to all my
> colleagues,
>
> first of all i will pay my respect and regards to sunil ji for such a
> deep and nice explanation on the subject.i feel really happy to see how
> the thinking is changing day by day to a positive side with respect to
> the teachings of lal kitab amongst the astrologers as well as amateurs.
>
> This was the prime goal of this astrostudents group to make people
> aware of the original books on lal kitab and to ensure that readers
> apply its actual teachings and guidelines in their routine life and get
> themselves benefitted in all respects .
>
> this is a big achievement towards the realization of the goal for spreading
> the knowledge of lal kitab and its teachings.
> may god blesss all the humanity and of course the followers and preachers of
> lal kitab.
> once again i thanks sunil ji for his innovativeness and the sincerety for
> the lal kitab.
>
> tufaan ki kami nahi jeevan mein
> ladte hue safar karna hoga
> jo milenge zakhm safar-e-rahon mein
> unhe hi zindagi ka tajurba kehna hoga
> laakh zakhm khaane par bhi
> har zakhm naya hoga
> tajurba kitna hi kyu na ho
> har safar naya hoga
>
> keep it up.
>
> Regards,
> MS KONDAL
>
>
>
> ____________
> From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@gmail.
> To: astrostudents@
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Aakhiri kundli - Another angle
>
>
> Respected Sunil Ji,
> Accept my Salutations for interpreting and interlinking the Last page and
> First page. This type of study is expected from every lalkitab student like
> me.I have few apprehensions which i would like to mention below:
>
> //
> Kismat ne bahut kuch bura bhala dikhaya
> the answer for this line is in farmaan no.1 in 1942 transliteration page
> no.1 by my Respected Guruji Pt. Veni Madhav Goswamiji . Here it is a
> reference to the janam kundli of the person
> //
>
> Frankly speaking I could not made it out from Farman. No 1. Your further
> elaboration in these lines will oblige me.
>
> //
> Vidhaata ne bhi na kuch reham khaya
> the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration very first
> line of the page
> Khud insaan ki paesh na jaave, hukum vidhaata hota hai
> Here it is referred to the greh which are of greh phal in janam kundli
> //
> May you link up the Grah phal issue with Planetary position in Aakhiri
> Kundli.
>
> I feel that that there is some linking problem between the meaning of
> a) Vidhaata ne bhi na kuch reham khaya
> and
> b) Khud insaan ki paesh na jaave, hukum vidhaata hota hai
> in my opinion whilea) gives the feeling of a complaint against God,the b) in
> general is a advisory nature sentence.
>
> //
> c) Magar ab uska aakhiri farmaan kya hai
> the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration second line of
> the page
> d) sukh,daulat aur saans aakhiri, umar ka faisala hota hai
> //
> In my opinion the line c) gives impression that "let me see what He has kept
> for me as His Last Order. and again d) is a advisory nature line which
> tells us what This Lal Kitab is meant for the native.
> What is the astrology for. It is being used for seeking the position of
> Sukh, Daulat & Umar. Whole science of Lalkitab is teaching us to How to
> read these. In my view Aakhiri Kundli is the Akhri Farmaan of the Book.
>
> //
> Here it is referred to check the three basics things from the varshaphal in
> concern by making faisala kundli
> //
>
> in fact, I find myself unable to decode this from First Armaan rather in
> whole 1942 book that Aakhiri Kundli be referred to use at every varshphal
> interpretation. I wish some more in this regard from you as this will help
> all of us to study the subject further.
>
> //
> Maslan jo greh do dafa aa jaave veh apna faisla is nai kundli ke mutabik
> accha ya bura kismat ka faisla denge.
> //
>
> From your mail i can judge that you have done very comprehensive study of
> the book. if you remember please tell us whether these lines occurs
> elsewhere. in Lalkitab at place other than page 384.
>
> //
> Agar is tarteeb se na aave veh varshaphal ke mutaabik phal denge.
> I feel that if in any particular year we didn't find any greh which comes
> twice as per faisala kundli, only then we should follow the normal
> varshaphal kundli.
> //
>
> I have different opinion. I feel that this is against the rules. Even Pandit
> Ji did not follow this method in the example Kundlis. Has this a general
> rule then Pundit Ji must have mentioned in every book where topic of
> Varshphal is discussed.
>
> //
> Here I would like to draw kind attn. of Respected prabhakar ji , kulbir ji,
> umesh ji, punit ji and your goodself that this faisala kundli is incomplete
> as i feel in 7th house the sun and budh are missing . which are playing key
> part in this Faisala kundli.
> //
>
> You are right .As per the rules illustrated in the kundli, Su & Me should be
> there. Is this required or left intentionaly or by Publlisher, I cannot
> comment because in such type of situationthe clarification can only be given
> by the Author or the person equivalent to His rank. I am a kid as far as
> Lalkitab is concerned.
> .
> I have seen rarely such type of innovative mails in group discussions.
> Please Keep it up. Your contributions are urgently required in the group.
>
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:29 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
>>Sunil ji, sun and mercury are not key planets as they don't repeat
>>>themselves. There is ample material on record where all possible
>>>angles have been explained. Now it is for the individual to choose
>>>what he thinks best. Regards. Kulbir.
>>
>>
>>>On 7/29/09, sunil.ailawadi15067 4 <sunil.ailawadi1506
>>> wrote:
>>>> Respected Nirmalji,
>>>>
>>>> I am a scholar of revered lal kitab who is trying to learn A.B.C. of lal
>>>> kitab from everything and everyone in the best possible way. I don't
>>>> know
>>>> how much my attempt is in right direction but as per my little knowledge
>>>> which i gathered from the mails published of respected prabhakar ji,
>>>> kulbir
>>>> ji, bhatia ji, kondal ji, lalkitabee ji, umeshji, punitji and many other
>>>> respected and responsible personalities like u to this group.
>>>> I would like to give my point of view for aakhiri kundli
>>>>
>>>> If u look for the very first line which is
>>>>
>>>> Yaar ki yari se talluk hai
>>>> uske aib se nahi
>>>>
>>>> here it is referred to masnoi greh as we are more concerned about the
>>>> good
>>>> part of any greh rather then its bad part.after reading my opinion
>>>> kindly go
>>>> through these two lines once again.
>>>>
>>>> Kismat ne bahut kuch bura bhala dikhaya
>>>> the answer for this line is in farmaan no.1 in 1942 transliteration page
>>>> no.1 by my Respected Guruji Pt. Veni Madhav Goswamiji . Here it is a
>>>> reference to the janam kundli of the person
>>>>
>>>> Vidhaata ne bhi na kuch reham khaya
>>>> the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration very first
>>>> line of the page
>>>> Khud insaan ki paesh na jaave, hukum vidhaata hota hai
>>>> Here it is referred to the greh which are of greh phal in janam kundli
>>>>
>>>> Magar ab uska aakhiri farmaan kya hai
>>>> the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration second
>>>> line of
>>>> the page
>>>> sukh,daulat aur saans aakhiri, umar ka faisala hota hai
>>>> Here it is referred to check the three basics things from the varshaphal
>>>> in
>>>> concern by making faisala kundli
>>>>
>>>> Aakhiri kundli
>>>> Pehle gharon mein varsh phal ke greh baad ke gharon mein janam kundli ke
>>>> greh aur uss kundli ke number 10 mein dhokhe ke greh likhenge natija
>>>> neez
>>>> faisla hoga.Maslan jo greh do dafa aa jaave veh apna faisla is nai
>>>> kundli ke
>>>> mutabik accha ya bura kismat ka faisla denge.
>>>> i feel this is the way of making final kundli for every year's
>>>> varshaphal
>>>> other than what we study as normal varshaphal. it is very important to
>>>> read
>>>> about Dhoke ka Grah in addition to varsh phal kundli.A table is given in
>>>> the
>>>> book on page no.72 of 1942 transliteration to find out dhoke ka grah in
>>>> every year of life based on janam kundli. From this final kundli we can
>>>> check out for the greh(which comes twice) who are going to play a lead
>>>> role
>>>> in the person's kundli and are definately going to give there results
>>>> whether good or bad as far as the kismat for that person is concerned
>>>> for
>>>> that certain year's varshaphal
>>>>
>>>> Agar is tarteeb se na aave veh varshaphal ke mutaabik phal denge.
>>>> I feel that if in any particular year we didn't find any greh which
>>>> comes
>>>> twice as per faisala kundli, only then we should follow the normal
>>>> varshaphal kundli.
>>>>
>>>> Here I would like to draw kind attn. of Respected prabhakar ji , kulbir
>>>> ji,
>>>> umesh ji, punit ji and your goodself that this faisala kundli is
>>>> incomplete
>>>> as i feel in 7th house the sun and budh are missing . which are playing
>>>> key
>>>> part in this Faisala kundli.
>>>>
>>>> Being a student with very little knowledge . I request all the senior
>>>> respected members to forgive me for my mistakes as I am still in the
>>>> learning process of revered lal kitab and I humbly request all the
>>>> respected
>>>> members mentioned above to correct me for the 7th house sun and budh in
>>>> faisala kundli.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Sunil Ailawadi
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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