There is a nice and fruitful discussion on this forum about:
1. Aakhiri Kundli
2. Dhoke ka graha
It may useful if you post a complete write up on these issues,
This will be a great help even to exerts.
Kindly give a thought to my suggestion.
Regards to all savants who are participating in this discussions,
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From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@gmail.
To: astrostudents@
Sent: Thursday, 30 July, 2009 5:25:48 PM
Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Aakhiri kundli - Another angle
Respected Sunil Ji,
Accept my Salutations for interpreting and interlinking the Last page and First page.. This type of study is expected from every lalkitab student like me.I have few apprehensions which i would like to mention below:
//
Kismat ne bahut kuch bura bhala dikhaya
the answer for this line is in farmaan no.1 in 1942 transliteration page no.1 by my Respected Guruji Pt. Veni Madhav Goswamiji . Here it is a reference to the janam kundli of the person
//
Frankly speaking I could not made it out from Farman. No 1. Your further elaboration in these lines will oblige me.
//
Vidhaata ne bhi na kuch reham khaya
the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration very first line of the page
Khud insaan ki paesh na jaave, hukum vidhaata hota hai
Here it is referred to the greh which are of greh phal in janam kundli
//
May you link up the Grah phal issue with Planetary position in Aakhiri Kundli.
I feel that that there is some linking problem between the meaning of
a) Vidhaata ne bhi na kuch reham khaya
and
b) Khud insaan ki paesh na jaave, hukum vidhaata hota hai
in my opinion while a) gives the feeling of a complaint against God, the b) in general is a advisory nature sentence.
//
c) Magar ab uska aakhiri farmaan kya hai
the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration second line of the page
d) sukh,daulat aur saans aakhiri, umar ka faisala hota hai
//
In my opinion the line c) gives impression that "let me see what He has kept for me as His Last Order. and again d) is a advisory nature line which tells us what This Lal Kitab is meant for the native.
What is the astrology for. It is being used for seeking the position of Sukh, Daulat & Umar. Whole science of Lalkitab is teaching us to How to read these. In my view Aakhiri Kundli is the Akhri Farmaan of the Book.
//
Here it is referred to check the three basics things from the varshaphal in concern by making faisala kundli
//
in fact, I find myself unable to decode this from First Armaan rather in whole 1942 book that Aakhiri Kundli be referred to use at every varshphal interpretation. I wish some more in this regard from you as this will help all of us to study the subject further.
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Maslan jo greh do dafa aa jaave veh apna faisla is nai kundli ke mutabik accha ya bura kismat ka faisla denge.
//
From your mail i can judge that you have done very comprehensive study of the book. if you remember please tell us whether these lines occurs elsewhere. in Lalkitab at place other than page 384.
//
Agar is tarteeb se na aave veh varshaphal ke mutaabik phal denge.
I feel that if in any particular year we didn't find any greh which comes twice as per faisala kundli, only then we should follow the normal varshaphal kundli.
//
I have different opinion. I feel that this is against the rules. Even Pandit Ji did not follow this method in the example Kundlis. Has this a general rule then Pundit Ji must have mentioned in every book where topic of Varshphal is discussed.
//
Here I would like to draw kind attn. of Respected prabhakar ji , kulbir ji, umesh ji, punit ji and your goodself that this faisala kundli is incomplete as i feel in 7th house the sun and budh are missing . which are playing key part in this Faisala kundli.
//
You are right .As per the rules illustrated in the kundli, Su & Me should be there. Is this required or left intentionaly or by Publlisher, I cannot comment because in such type of situation the clarification can only be given by the Author or the person equivalent to His rank. I am a kid as far as Lalkitab is concerned.
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I have seen rarely such type of innovative mails in group discussions. Please Keep it up. Your contributions are urgently required in the group.
Regards
Nirmal
Sunil ji, sun and mercury are not key planets as they don't repeat
themselves. There is ample material on record where all possible
angles have been explained. Now it is for the individual to choose
what he thinks best. Regards. Kulbir.--
On 7/29/09, sunil.ailawadi15067 4 <sunil.ailawadi15067 4@yahoo.co. in> wrote:
> Respected Nirmalji,
>
> I am a scholar of revered lal kitab who is trying to learn A.B.C. of lal
> kitab from everything and everyone in the best possible way. I don't know
> how much my attempt is in right direction but as per my little knowledge
> which i gathered from the mails published of respected prabhakar ji, kulbir
> ji, bhatia ji, kondal ji, lalkitabee ji, umeshji, punitji and many other
> respected and responsible personalities like u to this group.
> I would like to give my point of view for aakhiri kundli
>
> If u look for the very first line which is
>
> Yaar ki yari se talluk hai
> uske aib se nahi
>
> here it is referred to masnoi greh as we are more concerned about the good
> part of any greh rather then its bad part.after reading my opinion kindly go
> through these two lines once again.
>
> Kismat ne bahut kuch bura bhala dikhaya
> the answer for this line is in farmaan no.1 in 1942 transliteration page
> no.1 by my Respected Guruji Pt. Veni Madhav Goswamiji . Here it is a
> reference to the janam kundli of the person
>
> Vidhaata ne bhi na kuch reham khaya
> the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration very first
> line of the page
> Khud insaan ki paesh na jaave, hukum vidhaata hota hai
> Here it is referred to the greh which are of greh phal in janam kundli
>
> Magar ab uska aakhiri farmaan kya hai
> the answer for this line is on page no.1 1942 transliteration second line of
> the page
> sukh,daulat aur saans aakhiri, umar ka faisala hota hai
> Here it is referred to check the three basics things from the varshaphal in
> concern by making faisala kundli
>
> Aakhiri kundli
> Pehle gharon mein varsh phal ke greh baad ke gharon mein janam kundli ke
> greh aur uss kundli ke number 10 mein dhokhe ke greh likhenge natija neez
> faisla hoga.Maslan jo greh do dafa aa jaave veh apna faisla is nai kundli ke
> mutabik accha ya bura kismat ka faisla denge.
> i feel this is the way of making final kundli for every year's varshaphal
> other than what we study as normal varshaphal. it is very important to read
> about Dhoke ka Grah in addition to varsh phal kundli.A table is given in the
> book on page no.72 of 1942 transliteration to find out dhoke ka grah in
> every year of life based on janam kundli. From this final kundli we can
> check out for the greh(which comes twice) who are going to play a lead role
> in the person's kundli and are definately going to give there results
> whether good or bad as far as the kismat for that person is concerned for
> that certain year's varshaphal
>
> Agar is tarteeb se na aave veh varshaphal ke mutaabik phal denge.
> I feel that if in any particular year we didn't find any greh which comes
> twice as per faisala kundli, only then we should follow the normal
> varshaphal kundli.
>
> Here I would like to draw kind attn. of Respected prabhakar ji , kulbir ji,
> umesh ji, punit ji and your goodself that this faisala kundli is incomplete
> as i feel in 7th house the sun and budh are missing . which are playing key
> part in this Faisala kundli.
>
> Being a student with very little knowledge . I request all the senior
> respected members to forgive me for my mistakes as I am still in the
> learning process of revered lal kitab and I humbly request all the respected
> members mentioned above to correct me for the 7th house sun and budh in
> faisala kundli.
>
>
> Regards
> Sunil Ailawadi
>
>
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