Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: Knock Knock

Friday, July 10, 2009

[astrostudents] Re: Knock Knock - Some Fundamentals!

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your reply.

Can I make a judgment here that... the basic janam kundali may not have any relevance in Lalkitab unless checked / re-checked & verified with other methods. The planetary positions may just change completely.

While I once spoke to Shri Prabahakar ji over phone, and somehow topic arose of Mangal #8th house... and as I mentioned to him.."Yeah mine is Mangal #8 too!" He categorically mentioned ... "it can't be" Reasons he gave were amazing - "Your voice is not of a Mangal#8 person... It is more likely Mangal#9; Second he predicted my younger brother won't be 8yrs younger to me.. which I confirmed in positive... he is 4 yrs younger to me"

Though it is bit disturbing idea to make a new kundli altogether for diving further into predictions and upayas. But... THAT IS IT. And, I think...that's the only way forward....

* Prabhakar ji, hope it is OK to share my telephonic experience here.

thanks & best regards,
Bunty Arora

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>
> Arora ji, lalkitab system has some unique features. Lets take ur
> querries point wise. Regarding point one ; rahu and ketu may not be in
> 1-7 position. Sun venus mercury are not confined to a particular
> degree/house difference. It is a general assumption that condition
> arises only in varshphal BUT no palmistry portion and vaastu clears it
> all. So even if horoscope is made by computer and time is correct to
> second then also tewa darusti has to be done. There is another angle
> also. For reference u can read sh. Rabinder Bhandari's mail regarding
> using different ayanamshas. Regards. Kulbir.
>
> On 7/10/09, buntyarora2626 <AroraBN@...> wrote:
> > Dear Sirs,
> >
> > I have been trying to spend sometime on the sacred LalKitabs...
> > I know it is not easy... I have gone through many messages in this group
> > advising numerous readings, lot of commitment and sipirtual maturity to
> > understand the book and the wealth of knowledge therein.
> > ("Got to Die ... if one desires Heaven....")
> >
> > May I still have Guru-jan's patience to confirm something very basic and
> > fundamental... Just to check if I am groping in dark or Am I in right
> > direction...
> >
> > Assumptions at back of my mind while relating a horoscope with lalkitab...
> >
> > 1. Tewa Drusti is step #1. However, if someone is very sure of DATE, EXACT
> > TIME AND PLACE and has a proper computerized horoscope... This step may be
> > avoided for sake of planetry positions. Right?
> > However, to check if a planet is benefic or malefic in a given house, that
> > can be checked w.r.t predictions for given planetary postion. Right?
> >
> > 2. The planets in different houses in Janam Kundali are refered with respect
> > to Lal Kitab predictions and they form the basis of... 'what life unfolds
> > for us.' i.e Janam Kundli planets have maximum significance for... 'what
> > becomes of us in future.' (off-course after understanding the complexity of
> > combinations, aspects etc)
> >
> > 3. Varshphal Kundli planets have only temporary affect... only to the extent
> > of what is indicated by janam kundli planet positions. The predictions of
> > 'permanent nature' in varshaphal positions may not apply.
> >
> > Example - Shani in house #6 of janam kundli ... states "after 42 years it
> > brings real prosperity"...(off-course assuming it satisfies all the Sat #6
> > conditions). In that case, although Shani will move to different houses
> > during 1 to 41 years... and may have much better positions and predictions.
> > But, Janam Kundli prediction will rule over it. Correct?
> >
> > I know above is too much of a short cut and there might be many jewels
> > hiding in so many other pages of Lalkitabs.... which may nullify above
> > analysis. Something like 'Dharmai Tewa' which might be covered separately
> > and not in planetry positions / predictions...
> >
> > My idea here is just to understand... if there is any light at the end of
> > the tunnel... I am in?
> >
> > Hope seniors / masters will understand my viewpoint...
> >
> > Please ignore if someone doesn't like my idea of using words like
> > 'sacred'... 'predictions' etc.
> >
> > Please enlighten.
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Bunty Arora
> > +91 99670 50849
> >
> >
> >
>
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