Saturday, July 11, 2009

Re: [astrostudents] Knock Knock - Some Fundamentals!



Bunty ji, i am strictly confining to what is documented in lalkitab
1st - What was the need to devise this system.- pt ji has mentioned
the prime concern. Why don't persons with same birth data, not even
twins, have identical destinies. 2ndly there is a horoscope in 1952
book with rahu in 8th. Pt ji studied that the person is regular in his
religious schedule so he categorically mentioned that now rahu should
be considered in 9th instead of 8th. Personality, vocal style,
handwriting, style of walking, style of seeing and many more criteria
are mentioned. Remember it is samudrik knowledge. But this darusti
method is tricky and slippery. If planatary position shifts then the
reason for that should be thoroughly crosschecked. Regards. Kulbir.

On 7/11/09, buntyarora2626 <AroraBN@larsentoubro.com> wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Can I make a judgment here that... the basic janam kundali may not have any
> relevance in Lalkitab unless checked / re-checked & verified with other
> methods. The planetary positions may just change completely.
>
> While I once spoke to Shri Prabahakar ji over phone, and somehow topic arose
> of Mangal #8th house... and as I mentioned to him.."Yeah mine is Mangal #8
> too!" He categorically mentioned ... "it can't be" Reasons he gave were
> amazing - "Your voice is not of a Mangal#8 person... It is more likely
> Mangal#9; Second he predicted my younger brother won't be 8yrs younger to
> me.. which I confirmed in positive... he is 4 yrs younger to me"
>
> Though it is bit disturbing idea to make a new kundli altogether for diving
> further into predictions and upayas. But... THAT IS IT. And, I
> think...that's the only way forward....
>
> * Prabhakar ji, hope it is OK to share my telephonic experience here.
>
> thanks & best regards,
> Bunty Arora
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...> wrote:
>>
>> Arora ji, lalkitab system has some unique features. Lets take ur
>> querries point wise. Regarding point one ; rahu and ketu may not be in
>> 1-7 position. Sun venus mercury are not confined to a particular
>> degree/house difference. It is a general assumption that condition
>> arises only in varshphal BUT no palmistry portion and vaastu clears it
>> all. So even if horoscope is made by computer and time is correct to
>> second then also tewa darusti has to be done. There is another angle
>> also. For reference u can read sh. Rabinder Bhandari's mail regarding
>> using different ayanamshas. Regards. Kulbir.
>>
>> On 7/10/09, buntyarora2626 <AroraBN@...> wrote:
>> > Dear Sirs,
>> >
>> > I have been trying to spend sometime on the sacred LalKitabs...
>> > I know it is not easy... I have gone through many messages in this group
>> > advising numerous readings, lot of commitment and sipirtual maturity to
>> > understand the book and the wealth of knowledge therein.
>> > ("Got to Die ... if one desires Heaven....")
>> >
>> > May I still have Guru-jan's patience to confirm something very basic and
>> > fundamental... Just to check if I am groping in dark or Am I in right
>> > direction...
>> >
>> > Assumptions at back of my mind while relating a horoscope with
>> > lalkitab...
>> >
>> > 1. Tewa Drusti is step #1. However, if someone is very sure of DATE,
>> > EXACT
>> > TIME AND PLACE and has a proper computerized horoscope... This step may
>> > be
>> > avoided for sake of planetry positions. Right?
>> > However, to check if a planet is benefic or malefic in a given house,
>> > that
>> > can be checked w.r.t predictions for given planetary postion. Right?
>> >
>> > 2. The planets in different houses in Janam Kundali are refered with
>> > respect
>> > to Lal Kitab predictions and they form the basis of... 'what life
>> > unfolds
>> > for us.' i.e Janam Kundli planets have maximum significance for... 'what
>> > becomes of us in future.' (off-course after understanding the complexity
>> > of
>> > combinations, aspects etc)
>> >
>> > 3. Varshphal Kundli planets have only temporary affect... only to the
>> > extent
>> > of what is indicated by janam kundli planet positions. The predictions
>> > of
>> > 'permanent nature' in varshaphal positions may not apply.
>> >
>> > Example - Shani in house #6 of janam kundli ... states "after 42 years
>> > it
>> > brings real prosperity"...(off-course assuming it satisfies all the Sat
>> > #6
>> > conditions). In that case, although Shani will move to different houses
>> > during 1 to 41 years... and may have much better positions and
>> > predictions.
>> > But, Janam Kundli prediction will rule over it. Correct?
>> >
>> > I know above is too much of a short cut and there might be many jewels
>> > hiding in so many other pages of Lalkitabs.... which may nullify above
>> > analysis. Something like 'Dharmai Tewa' which might be covered
>> > separately
>> > and not in planetry positions / predictions...
>> >
>> > My idea here is just to understand... if there is any light at the end
>> > of
>> > the tunnel... I am in?
>> >
>> > Hope seniors / masters will understand my viewpoint...
>> >
>> > Please ignore if someone doesn't like my idea of using words like
>> > 'sacred'... 'predictions' etc.
>> >
>> > Please enlighten.
>> >
>> > best regards,
>> >
>> > Bunty Arora
>> > +91 99670 50849
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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