Astrostudents-Group Discussions: Re: [astrostudents] Why study Astrology?

Mr. Finn, i beg pardon for disturbing/irritating u and other members
by diverting good astrological discussion. Kindly carry on with ur
good job. Wish u all the best. Regards. Kulbir.

On 7/5/09, Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Kulbir,
>
>>>...the study of this book or astrology is confined to 3 principle
> concerns. 1. Comfortable mundane existence. 2. Harmonious interpersonal
> relations 3. Direction for self perfection...<<
>
> Sure, this is no doubt one way to see it. However, there are also some
> important astrological and predictive aspects of Lal Kitab astrology,
> highly useful for verification of the horoscopes of the clients and for
> giving them good, sound predictions and advices as well.
>
>
>>>...U don't approve of this topic then please attend to pending
> discussions like the faisla kundali of 1942 page 381 so many topics are
> pending in the groups. U can contribute there...<<
>
> Please, my good Sir, you can rest ussured that I am sufficiently
> competent to decide myself where to contribute and where not to
> contribute. But thank you anyway ;-)
>
>
>>>...Why did this topic disturb rather irritate you...?<<
>
> I generally find it disturbing when good astrological discussion is
> being turned into religious/spiritual discussion. It is like deviating
> from the original topic of the discussion and therefore it becomes - as
> you say - kind of irritating.
>
> Basically I think Yograj is right when saying that people can read Lal
> Kitab anyway they like as their democratic right. This is no doubt very
> true.
>
> However, when it is being suggested publicly that Lal Kitab should be
> read spiritually, then I think it is only fair to object. After all, the
> Lal Kitab is not a religious or spiritual text, but an astrological
> text, and it should be read as such.
>
> The statement that Lal Kitab should be read spiritually might, when said
> in public, mislead some of the new or less advanced students of Lal
> Kitab. I can say for sure that a statement like this would have have
> been a problem for my own good self at an earlier stage.
>
>
>>>...Such sweeping statements behove of a person who has mastered all
> aspects of the book. Ur mail suggests that u think u have done so...<<
>
> Actually, I feel somewhat misunderstood by this statement. The truth
> is that I consider my knowledge of Lal Kitab to be rather limited for
> obvious reasons. However, I am in a learning process and hopefully I
> will be able to continue to develop my skills and further compensate my
> deficiencies also in the future.
>
> I was however able to observe the discussion going astray and to see the
> need for some kind of sweeping statements, as you so kindly call it.
>
> Best wishes,
> Finn Wandahl
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Respected Mr. Finn; the study of this book or astrology is confined
>> to 3 principle concerns. 1. Comfortable mundane existence. 2.
>> Harmonious interpersonal relations 3. Direction for self perfection.
>> Pt no 3 can have different meanings for different persons. Sir, this
>> was a tradition with zen masters. After teaching his student the
>> master send his pupil to other master who didn't approve of his
>> methods so that the pupil could decide the best for himself. Sir, this
>> somebody has ample time for study and is no hurry to become a
>> professional astrologer. U don't approve of this topic then please
>> attend to pending discussions like the faisla kundali of 1942 page 381
>> so many topics are pending in the groups. U can contribute there. Why
>> did this topic disturb rather irritate you. Such sweeping statements
>> behove of a person who has mastered all aspects of the book. Ur mail
>> suggests that u think u have done so. But Sir, leave aside this (as ur
>> words) Mr. P but when a person like Sh. Upadhaya quotes kabir in
>> lalkitab discussions and kondal sir endorses it what is the harm in
>> trying. Anyway i am highly obliged by ur concern. Kindly show same
>> intensified concern to other aspects of pending topics also. Thanx and
>> Regards. Kulbir.
>>
>> On 7/4/09, Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl@... wrote:
>> > Dear members,
>> >
>> > I like to say that I find this present discussion a little
> disturbing
>> > and also somewhat out of context.
>> >
>> > In one of the messages somebody said: "P.......... told me that read
>> > lalkitab as a spiritual book".
>> >
>> > About LK-Astrology it is clearly stated in the introduction-part of
>> > LK-1952, I quote: "It comprises of all worldly considerations
> without
>> > any claim to divinity".
>> >
>> > This means Lal Kitab is not about spiritual or religious matters,
> and
>> > therefore it should not be read as such.
>> >
>> > Lal Kitab also appears to be a secular text, capable of being
> studied by
>> > people belonging to any religion, muslims, budhists, sikhs, hindus,
>> > christians, jains, jews or those who belong to no religion at all
>> > (ateists). This means even a sinner like my own good self, belonging
> to
>> > the christian faith, protestant church, can study it with good
> results
>> > like everybody else.
>> >
>> > Lal Kitab is a Jyotish Granth, meaning it is about the Shastra of
>> > astrology, and it is designed to teach astrology to its readers.
> Each
>> > and every page is pregnant with astrological information, but not
>> > spiritual or religious information.
>> >
>> > Dear Sirs, we are supposed to read out of the text, not into the
> text.
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> > Finn Wandahl
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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