Finn Sir, my apology is strictly restricted to the fact that it
disturbed ur peace. Apart from that, I stand by every word i wrote. To
part ways on a lighter note let me narrate a story. During British
rule a Gora Sahib like urself while riding his thirsty horse came a
jat (peasant) like myself, who was irrigating his fields by a
halat/rahat (a mechanism where bullocks rotate a device that fills
water in a well in buckets and empty outside) the gora sahib ordered
him to provide water to his horse. The peasent readily obliged but the
halat when moves it produces a sound of kat kat due to an instrument
that checks the buckets from falling back. The horse got
disturbed/irritated by this noise and refused to drink. The gora sahib
like urself ordered the peasant to bring out water without this
irritating sound of kat kat. The peasant like myself replied humbly.
Sahib no kat kat no paani (water). So i stop the rahat. Wish u all the
best. Regards Kulbir.
On 7/6/09, Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@
> Dear Mr. Kulbir,
>
> Your apology is accepted and thank you for the same. I know it takes a
> good man to freely admit his mistakes, and I very much respect that,
> dear friend.
>
> I very much agree with Mr. Kondal that all this should not be a reason
> for you to stop writing. It is true that you are sometimes a bit
> irritating, but I can live with that. Especially since you also at other
> times inspire good discussion.
>
> Best wishes,
> Finn Wandahl
>
>
>
> --- In astrostudents@
> wrote:
>>
>> Mr. Finn, i beg pardon for disturbing/irritati
>> by diverting good astrological discussion. Kindly carry on with ur
>> good job. Wish u all the best. Regards. Kulbir.
>>
>> On 7/5/09, Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl@
>> > Dear Mr. Kulbir,
>> >
>> >>>...the study of this book or astrology is confined to 3 principle
>> > concerns. 1. Comfortable mundane existence. 2. Harmonious
> interpersonal
>> > relations 3. Direction for self perfection..
>> >
>> > Sure, this is no doubt one way to see it. However, there are also
> some
>> > important astrological and predictive aspects of Lal Kitab
> astrology,
>> > highly useful for verification of the horoscopes of the clients and
> for
>> > giving them good, sound predictions and advices as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>...U don't approve of this topic then please attend to pending
>> > discussions like the faisla kundali of 1942 page 381 so many topics
> are
>> > pending in the groups. U can contribute there...<<
>> >
>> > Please, my good Sir, you can rest ussured that I am sufficiently
>> > competent to decide myself where to contribute and where not to
>> > contribute. But thank you anyway ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >>>...Why did this topic disturb rather irritate you...?<<
>> >
>> > I generally find it disturbing when good astrological discussion is
>> > being turned into religious/spiritual discussion. It is like
> deviating
>> > from the original topic of the discussion and therefore it becomes -
> as
>> > you say - kind of irritating.
>> >
>> > Basically I think Yograj is right when saying that people can read
> Lal
>> > Kitab anyway they like as their democratic right. This is no doubt
> very
>> > true.
>> >
>> > However, when it is being suggested publicly that Lal Kitab should
> be
>> > read spiritually, then I think it is only fair to object. After all,
> the
>> > Lal Kitab is not a religious or spiritual text, but an astrological
>> > text, and it should be read as such.
>> >
>> > The statement that Lal Kitab should be read spiritually might, when
> said
>> > in public, mislead some of the new or less advanced students of Lal
>> > Kitab. I can say for sure that a statement like this would have have
>> > been a problem for my own good self at an earlier stage.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>...Such sweeping statements behove of a person who has mastered all
>> > aspects of the book. Ur mail suggests that u think u have done
> so...<<
>> >
>> > Actually, I feel somewhat misunderstood by this statement. The
> truth
>> > is that I consider my knowledge of Lal Kitab to be rather limited
> for
>> > obvious reasons. However, I am in a learning process and hopefully I
>> > will be able to continue to develop my skills and further compensate
> my
>> > deficiencies also in the future.
>> >
>> > I was however able to observe the discussion going astray and to see
> the
>> > need for some kind of sweeping statements, as you so kindly call
> it.
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> > Finn Wandahl
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In astrostudents@
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Respected Mr. Finn; the study of this book or astrology is
> confined
>> >> to 3 principle concerns. 1. Comfortable mundane existence. 2.
>> >> Harmonious interpersonal relations 3. Direction for self
> perfection.
>> >> Pt no 3 can have different meanings for different persons. Sir,
> this
>> >> was a tradition with zen masters. After teaching his student the
>> >> master send his pupil to other master who didn't approve of his
>> >> methods so that the pupil could decide the best for himself. Sir,
> this
>> >> somebody has ample time for study and is no hurry to become a
>> >> professional astrologer. U don't approve of this topic then please
>> >> attend to pending discussions like the faisla kundali of 1942 page
> 381
>> >> so many topics are pending in the groups. U can contribute there.
> Why
>> >> did this topic disturb rather irritate you. Such sweeping
> statements
>> >> behove of a person who has mastered all aspects of the book. Ur
> mail
>> >> suggests that u think u have done so. But Sir, leave aside this (as
> ur
>> >> words) Mr. P but when a person like Sh. Upadhaya quotes kabir in
>> >> lalkitab discussions and kondal sir endorses it what is the harm in
>> >> trying. Anyway i am highly obliged by ur concern. Kindly show same
>> >> intensified concern to other aspects of pending topics also. Thanx
> and
>> >> Regards. Kulbir.
>> >>
>> >> On 7/4/09, Finn Wandahl finn.wandahl@ wrote:
>> >> > Dear members,
>> >> >
>> >> > I like to say that I find this present discussion a little
>> > disturbing
>> >> > and also somewhat out of context.
>> >> >
>> >> > In one of the messages somebody said: "P.......... told me that
> read
>> >> > lalkitab as a spiritual book".
>> >> >
>> >> > About LK-Astrology it is clearly stated in the introduction-
> of
>> >> > LK-1952, I quote: "It comprises of all worldly considerations
>> > without
>> >> > any claim to divinity".
>> >> >
>> >> > This means Lal Kitab is not about spiritual or religious
> matters,
>> > and
>> >> > therefore it should not be read as such.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lal Kitab also appears to be a secular text, capable of being
>> > studied by
>> >> > people belonging to any religion, muslims, budhists, sikhs,
> hindus,
>> >> > christians, jains, jews or those who belong to no religion at all
>> >> > (ateists). This means even a sinner like my own good self,
> belonging
>> > to
>> >> > the christian faith, protestant church, can study it with good
>> > results
>> >> > like everybody else.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lal Kitab is a Jyotish Granth, meaning it is about the Shastra
> of
>> >> > astrology, and it is designed to teach astrology to its readers.
>> > Each
>> >> > and every page is pregnant with astrological information, but not
>> >> > spiritual or religious information.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dear Sirs, we are supposed to read out of the text, not into the
>> > text.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best wishes,
>> >> > Finn Wandahl
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sent from my mobile device
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>
>
>
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