I was not careful in my wording.
What LK says that if two planets are placed in
6/8 placement , they will be in Takrab. This principle is
accepted as basic principle of astrology.
What I quoted that if lords of 2H is placed in 9H , or they are
in exchange , it will give benefic results (let us add 'also')
5H , or 8HL in 3H.
The effects of 'Takrav' will also be their.
I have found that different systems in Astrology may look
different but are in basic harmony.
It is my earnest belief that Lk-principles were developed when
Zodiac signs have not taken firm routes. That is why that LK depends
only on 12 houses.This system says that Mars owns 1st house and this is the 'Pakka'Ghar of Sun.Do you need to say that this house belongs to sign Aries. That ancient system came through some source to
respected Pt. Rup Chand ji who had developed it in five volumes in
over 13 years to meet modern needs. Some upays are to be again
developed as it is not possible to perform them in present day urban
society. So called Parasari, Jemini , Bhirgu or KP SYSTEM'S of astrology are letter developments.
BPHS is an outstanding treatise of great merit.
You may use any of my mail or article wherever you like. I do not hold
any copyright as all knowledge belongs to God .
Regards,
From: Nirmal Kumar <nirbhar@gmail.com>
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 22 October, 2010 11:01:45 PM
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: "Dristi concept" farmaan 8- Lk52 'exception rule in Takrao'
Respected Goel Sahib,
At present the discussions are being done on Lalkitab. Many students of the group are still at the preliminary level of studies. In my opinion they may not be able to co-relate these details with their studies of Lalkitab rather this may create confusion.
The group will take every book individually once the study of lalkitab completed.
I am very keen to discuss BPHS shaloka wise. But presently we to go with other members.
If you permit I forward your this contribution to our other group 'astrostudents_vedic' where this can be discussed in detail
Regards
Nirmal
Moderator
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@...> wrote:
>
> DEAR VIJAY Goeji and other learned members,
>
> SOME HOUSES ARE CONSIDERED AUSPICIOUS.
> Based ON THIS PRINCIPLE LORDS OF 2h , 9h , 10 h,if
> placed in 9h , 4h , and 5h respectively and they help each other.
> Similarly 3,6, 8 , 12 houes are leen (from where hidden or
> unanticipated problem arise) .As such if lord of 8H is placed
> in 3H , it does not create Takrab situation.
> You may refer verse 7 ch 11 of Jatakparisat and verses 39,42 and 49
> of chapter 14 0f Prasanmarg.
> SORRY TO BRING OTHER CLASSICS IN lALLKITAB DISCUSSIONS BUT
> ALL ARE NOT AT CROSS PURPOSES.
> rEGARDS,
>
> G.K.GOEL
> Ph: 09350311433
> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR
> NEW DELHI-110 076
> INDIA
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: vijay.goel <goyalvj@...>
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 19 October, 2010 11:19:20 PM
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: "Dristi concept" farmaan 8- Lk52 'exception rule in
> Takrao'
>
>
> Dear Kulbhir ji,
>
> Page 111 lk-52 is very important to understand.
>
> It will be very helpful if you explain this page.
> In this page text says that 2H & 9H will not have takrao as clouds will strike
> with mountain and rain will result and many other concepts are touched here.
>
> This page is indeed very important.
>
> Thankyou,
> Regards,
> Vijay Goel
> jaipur
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, kulbir Singh <kulbir.srana@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Vijay Jee,
> >
> > This is true that
> >
> > (Takrao : 1-->8, 6-->1 : Here irrespective of friendship-enmity planet in
> > Khanna no. 1 will conflict with the planets in Khana no. 8 even to such
> > a extent that Jadd could also be destroyed and vice versa for 6H to 1H.
> > for eg moon in 1H and jupiter in 6H, than does it means that jupiter
> > will conflict will moon and will destroy mangal nek (jadd of 1H) also.)
> >
> > My question is :-
> > If moon is in the 1st house and ketu is in the 8th house, then will mangal
> > nek be
> > destroyed (jadd of 1H) ????
> >
> > Please explain.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kulbir S Rana
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:08 PM, vijay.goel <goyalvj@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Respected members,
> > >
> > > Hare Rama Krsna,
> > >
> > > Please see the following relations for 1-9 dristi relationship: Buniyad
> > > and yog dristi :
> > > Kush LK se 1-9 mein graho ka kya lekh hai wo prastut hai.:
> > >
> > > for eg combination for malefic results :
> > > 1) Sun in 6H and Mars in 10H : Ladke bhasm banata ho (pg 62 Lk42) :son
> > > dies one after another.
> > > 2) Sun in 10H and Saturn in 6H : maschar se bharpur ho kismat (pg 68 LK42).
> > > lots of mosquitos in fortune, some idiom !! ?
> > > 3) Rahu in 9H and Saturn in 5H : nar aulad na paida ho na hi mare. Aulad
> > > ka yog har traha se manda hoga. sanisar no.5 ka dia hua asar manda hoga (pg
> > > 677 Lk52) : Son will not take birth.
> > > 4) Jupiter in 1H and enemy planets in 5H or 9H is not good especially for
> > > children and own health (pg 250-252, Lk52)
> > >
> > > We can see that in all above positions, *helping each other irrespective
> > > of enmity & friendship* won't work. Hence Buniyaad and Yog Dristi has some
> > > larger meaning to it.
> > >
> > > In traditional astrology 9-1-5 indicate one's Dharma (righteousness) which
> > > one gets from father (9-->1) and passes on to his son (1-->5), in this way
> > > generation to generation Dharma is maintained and goods results are seen.
> > > This is termed as Yog- Dristi in LK.
> > >
> > > If 5-->1 or 1-->9 are enemies to each other or malefic to each other than
> > > the son and father or native and father will not listen to each other and
> > > one will be adharmic or cruel to other in nature, thus will bring gap or
> > > break in lineage / generation.
> > > In general father (or God father) is Buniyaad to son (or student) as per
> > > LK, also is the main cause of Debts (Rin), The relationship of Buniyaad and
> > > debts cannot be seperate, as in Hindu philosophy so 'Shraad' (obligations)
> > > ritual is compulsory. If planets are friends, their is no debts and native
> > > rises exponentially due to blessing of elders (strong Buniyaad).
> > >
> > > I hope am able to convey my point and different in them.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thankyou,
> > > Regards,
> > > Vijay Goel
> > > Jaipur.
> > >
> > > Mob : 9214502239.
> > >
> > > --- In lalkitabgoshthi@, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Kulbhirji, Chetanji, Mahajan ji,
> > > >
> > > > The word Jadd is not used under the heading Buniyaad topic in the book.
> > > > It is used under the heading 'Takrao' topic.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Buniyaad means foundation.
> > > > Kya Khanna no.1 ki bunyaad khanna no. 9 hai ? Agar khanna no. 9 mein
> > > > kharab grah hai to khanna no 1 ko bhi kharab karege and vice versa?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jadd means Roots. In Lk-52 page 122 : Rin Pitra ke grah : Janm kundli
> > > > mein jis grah ki jadd ( uski apni rasi) mein dusman grah bhet kar ......
> > > >
> > > > It clearly means that Jadd is Malik (lorsdhip of house) as given in
> > > > table Lk-40 pg 63, is for khana no.1 Mangal nek, khana no. 2 sukra
> > > > ....etc.
> > > >
> > > > Now coming back to our Dristi concept,
> > > >
> > > > Takrao : 1-->8, 6-->1 : Here irrespective of friendship-enmity planet in
> > >
> > > > Khanna no. 1 will conflict with the planets in Khana no. 8 even to such
> > > > a extent that Jadd could also be destroyed and vice versa for 6H to 1H.
> > > > for eg moon in 1H and jupiter in 6H, than does it means that jupiter
> > > > will conflict will moon and will destroy mangal nek (jadd of 1H) also.
> > > > Kindly elaborate it.
> > > >
> > > > Many queries are in pending, i am eagerly waiting for answers.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thankyou,
> > > > Regards
> > > > Vijay Goel
> > > > Jaipur.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In lalkitabgoshthi@, Kulbir Bains lalkitabkb@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Vijay ji, I shall join in after 2 days (out of station). Kindly
> > > > > include Jadd (root) also in this thread. Some get confused regarding
> > > > > Buniyaad and Jadd. Regards Kulbir Bains.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/12/10, vijay.goel goyalvj@ wrote:
> > > > > > Respected members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yog Dristi : 1-->5, 5-->9, 9-->1. This is yoga dristi. (pg114,lk52)
> > > > > > Here planets in house number 1 is helping planets in house number 5
> > > > and
> > > > > > getting help from planets in house no. 9 irrespective of
> > > > > > enmity-friendship .
> > > > > > These yog dristi planets are also mustarka to each other. (pg118)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Buniyaad (pg 116): 1-->9, 9-->5, 5-->1. Here planets in house no. 1
> > > > and
> > > > > > 5 and 1 and 9, both with help each other irrespective of
> > > > > > enmity-friendship.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please elaborate the meanings of yog dristi and buniyaad and what is
> > > > the
> > > > > > basic difference in them ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thankyou,
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Vijay Goel
> > > > > > Jaipur.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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