Respected Nirmalji,
Excellent explanation :)
From traditional astrology point of view, among the five tattwas, jupiter signifies Akaash tattwa (space element) and Mercury signifies Pritvi tattwa (earth element).
So traditional astrologers must note this difference with LK.
Thankyou
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar" <nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Kulbir Ji,
> My perception is that there are two different words in this context. One is sky(Blue Sky called aasmaan in hindi) and other is space(Akaash).The space is denoted by Budh and Blue sky is denoted by Rahu. Rahu is a Farzi Grah (Not a physical planet) so is its denoted item sky(blue sky) which is actually not there in existence. while any type of empty space is denoted by Budh.
> There fore in my opinion the blue sky item should be of Khana No 12 (Rahu) and Space (Akaash) should be of Khana No.3 (budh).
>
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Kulbir Bains lalkitabkb@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear Nirmal ji, //*[In my opinion `akaash'is not open sky it is referring to
> > element `akaash' which signifies blank space (khlaav) //
> > *Page 19, 1952, "..........aavaz fir Aasmani khanna no. 12
> > mein........isliye Budh ka Aakash ya Nagare e Khalaq......."*
> > Regards
> > Kulbir.
> > *
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Nirmal Kumar nirbhar@ wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Vijay Ji,
> > >
> > > My opinion on few of the points are given in [square brackets] in blue
> > > color.
> > >
> > > Pakka Ghar number 3
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ghar teeje hai pakka mangal dhan daulat ke jane ka
> > >
> > > Khawesh-au-akarib bhai apne ya chori, ayaari ka.
> > >
> > > It is the house of Pakka Mars, exit of wealth and money.
> > >
> > > Signifies : Brother from same father or cousin in one's joint family,
> > > friends who are close like brothers, stealing, cleverness.
> > >
> > > Asar najar aur jang-va-jadal sab, mahal bhi unke lete hai
> > >
> > > Badna badana, farz mansabi, insaaf meetha unka lete hai.
> > >
> > > Signifies : Results of evil sight or sight with bad intentions, combat,
> > > war, place or forts where fight takes place.
> > >
> > > *[ **I feel it refers about the houses of `khawesh-o-aqarib bhai apne '] *
> > > **
> > >
> > > To help to move forward, duties of responsible person (an officer), justice
> > > of brotherhood (sweet).
> > >
> > > Utthi jawani ya khun jigar ka, tana darakh, aakash bhi hai.
> > >
> > > Khusi gami aur saale bhanoi, samaan aaraayash makan bhi hai.
> > >
> > > Early stage of youth, liver's blood, trunk of tree, open sky.
> > >
> > > Happiness sadness, brother-in-law, husband of sister, things to decorate
> > > the home.
> > >
> > > *[In my opinion `akaash'is not open sky it is referring to element
> > > `akaash' which signifies blank space (khlaav) ( I don't know how to express
> > > it) .*
> > >
> > > Sher darinde is ghar rehte, triloki bhi hota hai.
> > >
> > > Takat bachha paida karne, sasural aahwal akela hai.
> > >
> > > Ruthless lions is seen from here, triloki (numinous) is also seen from
> > > here.
> > >
> > > Sexual power to produce children, all in-laws are lonely ?
> > >
> > > QUERY : sasural aahwal akela hai ?
> > >
> > > [asper dictionary -different meanings of ahvaal are haalat, khair-sukh,
> > > sarmaya, maal-daulat, dhan-maal ]
> > >
> > > Is ghar ka jo rang hai khooni asar hota bhi khooni hai.
> > >
> > > Grah jo is ghar badi pe howe kehlata va kasti hai.
> > >
> > > The color of this house is red and its results are also alarming.
> > >
> > > If any planets is malefic in this house it will result in turmoil.
> > >
> > > Stree grah jab teeje aawe, aurat bhi va mard kehlawe
> > >
> > > Sukkar baila aur chanda sadhu, mard badege badegi aayuu
> > >
> > > Mangal badh- manglik na hoga, shivji ho ke daya karega.
> > >
> > > Streeo ki bhi puja hogi, teen kaal va unnati hogi.
> > >
> > > Hogi to kul umda hogi, gar na hogi, chori na hogi.
> > >
> > > [in my opinion all the above lines should be combined for illustration as
> > > below lines]
> > >
> > > When female planets (venus , moon) comes in this house, it acts as male
> > > planet.
> > >
> > > Venus is bull and moon is saint (Shiva ji), males if rises than age will
> > > increase.
> > >
> > > Inference: Female planets in 3H make the native coward so females in family
> > > become courageous in facing danger or to dominate.
> > >
> > > [In my opinion 6ks should be considered here. Since mangal bud condition
> > > does not prevail in the presence of female planets, hence cowardness will
> > > cease to exist. Female planets here means Venus(Wife) , Moon(Mother) and
> > > those will play active role in the life of native-> means that his
> > > wife/mother will be capable of doing all the tasks which normally a male
> > > person can do in the family and her decision are considered as firm. females
> > > will not be like "Keeley Banni Gaan naan hoon na haan" (it is not like a cow
> > > tethered with khoonta ]
> > >
> > > Male planets or cruel planets in this house increase resistivity to
> > > withstand any diseases hence age increases.
> > >
> > > Here Mars will be not mangal badh due to blessing of moon.
> > >
> > > [in my opinion Mars if posited here can be mangal Bud. But if females
> > > planets are posited here, then mars bud will not be there in native's kundli
> > > even if at a particular position of Mars in a house which is considered for
> > > it as Mars Bud,likeHouse no 4]
> > >
> > > If females in home are respected than native will rise in all stage of
> > > life. (child, youth,old age)
> > >
> > > Whole family will rise, theft will also not take place.
> > >
> > > Inference : this house is the house of power, if power is used to protect
> > > females and children, good qualities are developed than naturally it will
> > > rise the whole family.
> > >
> > > Else if this power is misused for harassment the weaker ones than naturally
> > > struggle, theft will increase in the home.
> > >
> > > [in my opinion this house is also of chori(theft), aiyaari (trickery or
> > > disguise) & exit point of wealth presence of any planet in this house may
> > > cause these bad instances]
> > >
> > > Budh sani aur mangal tewe kahi bhi iske baithe ho.
> > >
> > > Phal wese hi ghar teeje ke, us tewe mein hote hai.
> > >
> > > The position of mercury, Saturn, mars in the horoscope will modify the
> > > results of 3H.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Nirmal
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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