Thank You dear friends,
Thank you for the support shown through your mails.
I am just leaving for Nathdwara from Bombay, for darshan, today, and
will be back by the 31st. Then will speak to Shri Yograj ji, though he
has declined the financial support as per his mail few days ago, but
maybe he could use the same to equip himself with more tools for the
expositions of the Lalkitab teachings and learnngs we are a part of.
best wishes,
Bhaskar.
--- In astrostudents@
>
> Dear Umesh ji and Bhaskar ji,
> I also join both of you in this gesture. If acceptable to Prabhakar ji
I would contribute US$ 500.
> Best regards,
> Dharmender
>
>
> From: Umesh Sharma
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:41 PM
> To: astrostudents@
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: Lal Kitab Confusions
>
>
> Dear Bhaskar ji,
> I also join u in your gesture;whether it is acceptable to
> prabhakarji. If yes, My contribution is Rs.3100/-
> Thanks
> Umesh Sharma
> --- In astrostudents@
> wrote:
> >
> > dear Bhaskar ji,
> > I join u in your gesture;whether it is acceptable to
> > prabhakarji,
> > sincerely,
> > kiranjit
> >
> > tudents@yahoogroups
> > >
> > >
> > > No takers ?
> > >
> > > Hume chahiye sab kuch, parantu dene ke samay ........?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Bhaskar.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In astrostudents@
> <rajiventerprises@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > Yes this is a good request which will be helpful to all of us.
> > > >
> > > > But we too should be understanding in todays times when
> everyone
> > is
> > > > occupied and busy in accumlating " artha " for his day to day
> and
> > > > monthly expenditures , and Prabhakarji too is a human being
> with
> > his
> > > own
> > > > family, home and expenditures to take care of, then why should
> > he be
> > > > expected to give his time in such activities which would take
> up
> > the
> > > > major part of the day ? Should we not compensate him and help
> > him in
> > > his
> > > > endevaours and encourage him in this, while requesting him for
> > the
> > > > suggestion just made ?
> > > >
> > > > This my seem to be a cheap suggestion from my side, and I ask
> > > > Prabhakarji to forgive me if he finds it so, but I believe a
> > practical
> > > > one, in todays times. We must form a pool of money for such
> > activities
> > > > with contributions from all interested members so that the
> time,
> > > energy,
> > > > technical infrastructure etc. is all compensated for.
> > > >
> > > > If you find this in order, the I can be the first one to
> > contribute
> > > with
> > > > Rs.2100- for this noble cause. I can also periodically
> contribute
> > > > whenever needed with more , if required, if not at a time.
> > Please let
> > > us
> > > > have your views dear members
> > > >
> > > > kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Bhaskar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In astrostudents@
> jitinsyal82@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear members and respected prabhakar ji,
> > > > > If Shri Prabhakar ji can transliterate all the 5 books that
> > would be
> > > > > a dream come true for the students. At least then i won't
> have
> > to
> > > > > worry about learning urdu. sir i know u have too much on
> your
> > plate
> > > > > BUT i would humbly request you to do this for the sake of
> LK's
> > > future
> > > > > (as our generation can't read urdu).please take up this
> > > > > responsibility, at least that way students like me can buy
> LK
> > hindi
> > > > > versions without a second thought.
> > > > >
> > > > > yours truly
> > > > > jitin syal
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In astrostudents@
> > > > > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Respectable Kubir jee, I am having all the books of Yograj
> > ji,
> > > > > Vaishishta ji and Dr .Arun ji. Yograj ji was very kind to
> gift
> > me
> > > the
> > > > > copy of his book through one of his Canadian friend. He
> > refused to
> > > > > accept any money and said that this book is Pundit ji's
> > Pashad. The
> > > > > book is a real GEM. It look like a pavittar rranth rather
> than
> > > > > ordinary astrology book. I think that Vashishta ji converted
> > gutka
> > > > > not from original urdu book rather from the gutka of Hare
> > Krishna
> > > > > trust, because there are lot of similarities in both the
> > books. Only
> > > > > the gutka of Yograj ji is the best, the other two are zero
> > before
> > > his
> > > > > book. I request ograj ji to translate all the editions of
> lal
> > kitab,
> > > > > becuse a honest and devoted person like him can do full
> > justice with
> > > > > such great work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely
> > > > > > Baljeet Singh Pandher
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Mon, 12/22/08, kulbir bance kulbirbance@ wrote:
> > > > > > From: kulbir bance kulbirbance@
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: Lal Kitab Confusions
> > > > > > To: astrostudents@
> > > > > > Received: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:45 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sir,
> > > > > > The gutka by vashishta ji is no good than the one
> published
> > by
> > > > > hare krishna trust many years ago. had any of these 2 been
> even
> > > > > correct by 70 % only, there was no need to get the third one
> > to be
> > > > > published by prabhakar ji, there are only 1-2 mistakes in
> > prabhakar
> > > > > ji's gutka and he has accepted and rectified it in the true
> > spirit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he single handedly toiled for a considerable time first to
> > collect
> > > > > the original books, then translate and publish it. the
> quality
> > of
> > > > > printing, paper and binding of his book were such that any
> > publisher
> > > > > would know that there was no scope for much profit to be
> made.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the transliteration and the dictionary appended to it
> makes
> > it a
> > > > > master piece for non urdu knowing learners. knowledge of
> urdu
> > script
> > > > > alone is not sufficient. prabhakar ji has taken care to
> explain
> > > > > punjabi terms etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vashishta ji's gutka and also one by hare krishna trust
> are
> > just
> > > > > not worth to be compared with his book.
> > > > > > it is a matter of luck that a beginner lays his hands on
> > which
> > > > > publication.
> > > > > > the degrees diplomas in arabic etc. by vashishta ji are
> > enough for
> > > > > any layman to fall in the trap. i feel he has committed
> > sacrilage by
> > > > > giving such a shabby treatment to lalkitab gutka and further
> > to add
> > > > > insult to injury he doesn't even owns his mistakes what to
> ask
> > of
> > > > > repentance. it is no surprise that a beginner who picks up
> his
> > book
> > > > > in good faith ends up loosing interest in lalkitab.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > kulbir
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:52 AM, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82@
> > > > > yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dear vinay ji,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i don't think a person like prabhakar ji transliterate
> books
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > > monetary aim, infact he does it to help us learners
> (without
> > urdu
> > > > > > knowledge) to learn lal kitab.hence my friend questioning
> his
> > > > > morality
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is not appropriate at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as far as the correct version goes then i would refer to
> > prabhakar
> > > > > ji's
> > > > > > version with my eyes closed and that's because his simple
> yet
> > > > > excellent
> > > > > > understanding of the originals, sans any personal "view".
> as
> > you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > mentioned that in vashishta ji's version it says " rahu
> ketu
> > budh
> > > > > > teesra, teenon hee *shakti* hain". does that makes sense
> to
> > you??
> > > > > should
> > > > > > it not be shakki(as written in prabhakar ji's version)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > anyhow the senior members of the group have already given
> > their
> > > > > advice
> > > > > > on which book to follow, but i just felt like giving my 2
> > cents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > urs sincerely
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jitin syal
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "Vinay kumar"
> > <v4vedic@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Experts,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have two roopantars of 1941 books one by Pt Vashishtha
> > and
> > > > > another
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > from Yograj Prabhakar. Both are called themselves Expert
> > in Urdu
> > > > > > language.
> > > > > > > But the books tells different stories. I sent the mail to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lalkitabastrology
> > > > > > > group regarding this but they have not approved my
> > message. Some
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > conflicting lines are:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > page 5 second line of pakka ghar no. 3 of Pt.Vashishta(
> > LKV)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "*Khush data rabb *bhai apne"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The same line at p13 of Pt yograj prabhakar(YRP) book is
> > > > > > > "*Khavesh o- aqarab bhai apney*"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Page 5 line 14 from top (LKV )
> > > > > > > "duniya kee *keemat* hai aakaash budh mein"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > same at page 12 first line(YRP)
> > > > > > > 'Duniya kee *kismat* hai aakaash budh mein"
> > > > > > > LKV Page 7 last line
> > > > > > > ' hamdardi *foofi* budh kee hai"
> > > > > > > YRP page 18 line 11
> > > > > > > "hamdardi *foqi* budh kee hai"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > LKV page 8 line 2
> > > > > > > 'peshaan*i(Maaya) * chehra hoti hai"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > YRP page 18 line 13
> > > > > > > " peshani chehra hoti hai"
> > > > > > > LKV page 11 line 14
> > > > > > > " rahu ketu budh teesra, teenon hee *shakti* hain"
> > > > > > > YRP page 27 line 3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "rahu ketu aur budh teesra, teenon hee *shakki* hain"
> > > > > > > LKV page 11 5th line from bottom
> > > > > > > "Khud rooh *bura bul *bhee hai"
> > > > > > > YRP page 28 line 8
> > > > > > > "khud rau *boota bel* bhee hai"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > LKV Page 19 last line Brihaspati No 7
> > > > > > > "*Log gaye jo mela bela kabhi lala ji jhagde mein ghar ke
> > > > > raakh*a"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > YRP page 45 line 13
> > > > > > > "*Log gaye jo mela baisakhi lala ji jakde hai ghar kee
> > raakhi*"
> > > > > > > LKV page 25 line 4 from bottom sooraj no 2
> > > > > > > "*bachhiya* se vo galta ho"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > YRP page 56 line 5
> > > > > > > " *Bhichhiya* se vo galta ho"
> > > > > > > LKV page 35 line 3 chander 4
> > > > > > > *Mama* se taarey daya se taarey"
> > > > > > > YRP page 80 line 7
> > > > > > > " *Maya* se taarey daya se taarey"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > LKV Page 56 line 5 from bottom mangal 6
> > > > > > > "*Dhandey mein dam na ho chaahey khair hogi jaan ki*"
> > > > > > > YRP page 127 line 5
> > > > > > > ' *damdamey mein dam na hon khvah khar hogi jaan ki*"
> > > > > > > LKV page 111 Para 3 line 13
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > " dono* registaan* aur samundar hongey"
> > > > > > > YRP page 223 line 14
> > > > > > > " Dono *kohsar* aur samunder hongey"
> > > > > > > It is the same book these two writers published and
> > referred but
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > different meanings. there are several instance in both
> the
> > books
> > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > listed
> > > > > > > only few.
> > > > > > > Readers purchased these books from their hard earned
> > money. It
> > > is
> > > > > > writer's
> > > > > > > moral duty to give correct version to their clients,
> > whether in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > shape of
> > > > > > > translation or transliteration. or at least they can do
> is
> > to
> > > > > publish
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > errata separately for there readers to correct their
> books.
> > > > > > > Can any one guide which book from above is to be read or
> > > referred
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > correct.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dr.Vinay
> > > > > > >
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