Respected Nirmal ji,
I assume that all have this book, so mistakes here does not matter much, but it would have been helpful if you wrote the english meaning in the brackets.
///My understanding about these lines are:There are simple rules of lal kitab which apply here.Rule saysif the planet(b) being aspected is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, then b will not allow a to transfer the effect of a to the house in which b is posited. 'b' will prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in this process 'b' may get destroyed.///
Please again elaborate it how 'b' will take its effect on its own ?kindly use some example to explain better.
///Regarding "Umar se bhi marte hain" ///
how age has been used here ?
///Let me illustrate the lines word by wordoonch (exalted-Sooraj(1), Saturn(7)) neech(Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),Ghar ke(Mangal(1), Shukkar(7), Budh(7) jo giney hain, ..........Baaqi grah ( Remaining Planets are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon) sab jhagda karte.....When ever there are more than two planets having the remaining planets amongst them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then this condition will prevail.///
Nicely explained, thankyou :)
//When we study the remaining chapters the concept will become more clear.//
Right, still we came have a frog jump over chapters just for memory and initial understanding and detailing can be done when we will approach to that chapter sequentially.
Thankyou for such a nice explanation.
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
NOTE : I have Re-posted this post as earleir one is no readable. It will be very convenience to me if you free my post from moderation.
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--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Vijay Ji,
> I have seen that there are many mistakes in the lines.this may be due to the
> english transcription. The words in square brackets are correct. So you
> correct the words the meaning will become more clear. Further the prose
> portion in page 12 after these Chhandas make it easier to understand.
> "
>
> Laganagar khud khali hove, kismat saat [sath] naaayi ho.
>
> Kismat uski saatve bethe [baithee], ya ghar chaute [chauthe] 10ve ho.
>
> Mutti ke ghar charo khali, 9-3-11-5ve ho.
>
> Yeh ghar bhi gar khali hove, 2-6-12-8ve ho.
>
> Ghar 12 hi ghum ke dekhe, uccha, qayam, ya ghar ka jo.
>
> Kismatka vah malik hoga, baita takth per uskeho.
>
> Gharpehla jab raj hukumat, saat(7H) vasir hi hota hai.
>
> Har dose koi dusman hove, saat [saath] fakirihota hai.
>
> Uuch neech ghar ke jo dusman[giney] hai vah nahi en [in] gharo ladte hai.
>
> Baaki grah sab jhagra karte, umar se bhi vah marte hai.
>
> You asked ablot point D. I reproduce your lines as:
>
> ===========================================================
>
> "1st H is ruler and 7th H is Minister, if there is enemy in between than
> saat fakiri hota hai. Planets does not fight which are exalted and
> debilitated in these both house, rest planets fight each other and dies as
> per age of planets."
>
> D) Inference: Planet which is in 1H the ruler and7H the minister.
>
> Not Clear : enimitybetween both planets in 1H & 7H?
>
> Or These planets conjuct enemy planets ?
>
> Than who will lose to fakiri ?
>
> Here sun andSaturn will not fight in 1 & 7H, rest enemy planets will fight.
>
> "umar se bhi marte hai" ?
> ======================================================
> My understanding about these lines are:
>
> There are simple rules of lal kitab which apply here.
> Rule says
> *if the planet(b) being aspected is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it,
> then b will not allow a to transfer the effect of a to the house in which b
> is posited. 'b' will prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in
> this process 'b' may get destroyed. So if planets in 1st and 7th are enemy
> then the war between the two will damage the effect of both the planet. *
> Regarding "Umar se bhi marte hain"
> Let me illustrate the lines word by word
> *oonch* (exalted-Sooraj(1), Saturn(7)) *neech*
> (Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),*Ghar ke*(Mangal(1), Shukkar(7), Budh(7) *jo
> giney hain*, ..........
> Baaqi grah ( *Remaining Planets are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon*) sab jhagda
> karte.....
> When ever there are more than two planets having the remaining planets
> amongst them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then
> this condition will prevail.
> When we study the remaining chapters the concept will become more clear.
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:45 AM, vijay.goel goyalvj@... wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Respected Nirmalji,
> >
> > Hare Rama Krsna,
> >
> > Thanks for the correction.
> >
> > It will be very helpful, if you explain the point no. 'D'.
> >
> >
> > Thankyou,
> > Regards,
> > Vijay Goel
> > Jaipur.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Vijay Ji,
> > > Accept my compliments for this comprehensive teeka on Pakka Ghar 1.
> > Please
> > > make a correction in your book in following line
> >
> > > aage na do chalta ho,
> > > The word is actually 'vo' not 'do'. Now meanings of line will look clear.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Nirmal
> > >
> >
> >
>
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