Wednesday, October 20, 2010

[astrostudents] Re: "Dristi concept" farmaan 8- Lk52 "Dhoka Dristi", "Ande Grah"

 

Dear Members,

Hare Rama Krsna,

Now we look the concept DHOKA pg 117 LK-52.

Dhoka Dristi :1-->10, 4-->1: This is one of the most important concept in Lal-kitab, referred many time at different places.

The Text says : "Aab yeh greh doguni takat ke hoge, ache ya bure baat ka faisla pakka ghar number 10 mein ghoka ke greh ke mutaallika dia hua vasool per hoga"
 
Planets will be of twice the strength. Good or Bad results will depend on the judgement of Pakka Ghar no. 10 related principles.

Since to understand this concept we must first understand Pakka ghar 10 and its related principles.

Lk-52 pg 43 : Ande greh
: Blind planets : If Khana no 10 is destroyed due to
a) Enemy planet(s).
b) Planets in debilitation (neech hesiyat) ie. Jupiter in 10H.
c) Raddi planets : For raddi graha concept read and look table pg 66 Lk 40.
Than horoscope will be said blind, and all the planets including saturn even in exalted position (uchh) will act as blind.
Pg 631-632 Lk52 for sani in 10H says : sani will like a bloody snake for blind charts (Cobra of double strength).

Inference :
1)10 house is karma bhave, kismat ki buniyaas ka maidan, ie if planets are their in 10H person will be surely laborious (karma yogi) therefore if overall analysis of chart force him to take positive action than the results will be doubled and if actions are directionless (blind) he will be at double loss.
2)This Dhoka dristi only focuses on the Work, job, "Jivika, rizak" related issue not on other issues like health, makan, marriage, children.

To check how planet in 10H will behave we see :

Lk-52 page 79 : kundli ka pakka ghar khana no.10 :
"Grah 10 ve ka ghar 10 sakki, dugini takat ka hota hai,
aakh gaya hai 2 jiski, kwab 12 mein leta hai
.

If planets comes in 10H in varshphal than planet will become dhoka ka grah, His good or evil properties will depends on :
A)1) If house 8 is Manda than it doubly manda,
  2) If house 2 is Good than it is doubly good (2H is eyes of 10H).
  3) If both 8 & 2 are equal than 10H will be first good and than bad.
  4) If both 8,2 are empty than, planets in 3-5-11 will be helpful
  5) If above is also empty than status of saturn will have the final say over it.
B) If enemy planets are in 10H than it will be blind chart, all planets will behave and move like a blind person, In this stage the judgement of 10H will be according to the status of Moon, if moon is good than results is good else bad.
C) Rahu, Ketu & Budh will always be sakki(in doubts) here and which will act accordingly as per the status of sani with double strength.

Their is one more point related to this topic which is left by me, intentionally.

Thankyou,
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
Mob : 09214502239.

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Nirmal ji, Yograj ji, Umesh ji, and all learned member,
>
> Hare Rama Krsna,
>
> "Regarding Jad- You are right Book at many places refer Jad as Rashi of
> the Planet. But experience of an astrologer add new dimension or confirm
> about the Jad."
>
> It means that in Takrao position for eg as taken earlier that jupiter in
> 6H and moon in 1H, jupiter will conflict with moon and jupiter will
> destroy 4H (jadd rasi of moon rather than mangal nek as taken by me in
> earlier example).
>
> A) What is the meaning of Takrao - accident, conflict ?
>
> B) Secondly your citation it does not clear my query what will happen if
> enemy planet are in buniyad (1-->9)position or friends are in buniyaad
> position, ?for eg
> 1) jupiter in 1H and moon in 9H.
> 2) jupiter in 1H & mercury in 9H.?
>
> "Without footing/buniyad building never stands. Khana no 1 denotes-
> Present or self. Khana No 9 - past or Bazurgi, Khana No. 5- Future, Ones
> Kids. Self(1) buniyad is (9) i.e. bazurgi means his father With
> father(buniyad) self cannot exist. Without Buniyad(Self-(1)) Kids(5)
> never come in to existence. "
>
> 3) Please also define how 9th house (father\buzurgi\past) buniyaad is
> 5H (grandchildren\future).
>
> C) Yog dristi (1-->5) : The above citation similarly can be used in yog
> dristi concept, what is the difference with buniyaad. ? What is the
> meaning of yog dristi as per LK. ?
>
> We must note that buniyaad is NOT Mustarka but Yog dristi is Mustarka,
> their must be difference in interpretation in the same 1-5-9 trilogy.
>
> If all will contribute their experiences than only we can explore
> grammatical part in the right way and come up with right remedies.
>
> Thankyou,
> Regards,
> Vijay Goel
> Jaipur.
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> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar" nirbhar@
> wrote:
> >
> > Nicely explained Vijay Ji.
> > I have few lines to add
> > Without footing/buniyad building never stands. Khana no 1 denotes-
> Present or self. Khana No 9 - past or Bazurgi, Khana No. 5- Future, Ones
> Kids. Self(1) buniyad is (9) i.e. bazurgi means his father With
> father(buniyad) self cannot exist. Without Buniyad(Self-(1)) Kids(5)
> never come in to existence.
> > Regarding Jad- You are right Book at many places refer Jad as Rashi of
> the Planet. But experience of an astrologer add new dimension or confirm
> about the Jad.
> > Takrav- while reading the book one may encounter opposites of takrav
> theory. e.g 2-9,5-10.
> >
> > More research needs to done in the yog drishti's application. This is
> my opinion.
> > Regards
> > Nirmal
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "vijay.goel" goyalvj@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Members,
> > >
> > > The word 'Jadd' is used under the heading 'Takrao' topic.
> > >
> > > Buniyaad means foundation.
> > > Kya Khanna no.1 ki bunyaad khanna no. 9 hai ? Agar khanna no. 9 mein
> > > kharab grah hai to khanna no 1 ko bhi kharab karege and vice versa?
> > >
> > >
> > > Jadd means Roots. In Lk-52 page 122 : Rin Pitra ke grah : Janm
> kundli
> > > mein jis grah ki jadd ( uski apni rasi) mein dusman grah bhet kar
> ......
> > >
> > > It clearly means that Jadd is Malik (lorsdhip of house) as given in
> > > table Lk-40 pg 63, is for khana no.1 Mangal nek, khana no. 2 sukra
> > > ....etc.
> > >
> > > Now coming back to our Dristi concept,
> > >
> > > Takrao : 1-->8, 6-->1 pg lk52 pg 115: Here irrespective of
> > > friendship-enmity planet in Khanna no. 1 will conflict with the
> planets
> > > in Khana no. 8 even to such a extent that Jadd could also be
> destroyed
> > > and vice versa for 6H to 1H.
> > > for eg moon in 1H and jupiter in 6H, than does it means that jupiter
> > > will conflict will moon and will destroy mangal nek (jadd of 1H)
> also.?
> > > Kindly elaborate it.
> > >
> > > Thankyou,
> > > Regards
> > > Vijay Goel
> > > Jaipur.
> > >
> >
>

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