Respected Nirmalji,
Thankyou,
At the age of sun, 24yrs, pakka ghar 1 automatically will wake up from dormant state, but why it is called 'ulta' reverse.
Pl read next line how dusman
> > > Saal 24se jitne aage, dusman grah us aatha ho.
> > >
> > > Takkar aisi us grah hogi, aage na vo chalta ho,
> > >
Does it says : from 24 yrs onwards if enemy planets of sun and mars or enemy of planet situated in 1H, come in 1H in varshphal, it himself gets destroyed. ?
Kya aage nahi chalta hai ?
Kindly elaborate.
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Jaipur
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar" <nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Vijay Ji,
> Regarding
> "Jupiter in alone in 1H and 7H is empty, than point number 'B' is applicable, ie
> 'ulta takth va 24 ho' ?.
> This will become clear when we study the remaining chapters regarding "how to make the sleeping planet awake".
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Jesal Sagar ji,
> >
> > actually one of the vital concept of 1 & 7H of Jaimini astrology is incorporated as King and Vasir concept in LK, this is my initial belief, but i need more understanding over it.
> > Lets learned members clarify some doubts of mine to understand the pose first.
> >
> > Jupiter in alone in 1H and 7H is empty, than point number 'B' is applicable, ie 'ulta takth va 24 ho' ?.
> >
> > Lets wait for other members to say over it.
> >
> > Thankyou
> > Regards,
> > Vijay Goel
> > Jaipur.
> >
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Jesal" <jesalsagar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you vijay goel ji ..
> > > This is the best explanation than one can ever give for the 1st house of lalkitab ..
> > >
> > > But sir if in any kundali 1st house has guru and seventh house is vacant than wat should the person do ..
> > >
> > > Is there any upay for that ..
> > > how can 7th house be fulfilled ..
> > > How can the person be saved from this ?
> > > Sir it would be great help if u throw some light on this .!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jesal sagar
> > >
> > > Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@>
> > > Sender: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:36:27
> > > To: <astrostudents@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Reply-To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] Pakka Ghar no.1, LK-42 page 11-12, part 1
> > >
> > > Dear Members and Nirmalji,
> > >
> > > Namaskar,
> > >
> > > As suggested by you, i am doing the Sri Ganesha of Pakka Ghar series
> > > from LK-42.
> > > It is requested to all to contribute, discuss and share to come for the
> > > clear meanings and understanding of the book.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pakka GharNumber 1 : Fix house number one.[ lk-42 pg 11-12]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gharpehla hai takht hajari, grah phal rajakundli ka .
> > >
> > > Jyotishmein ise lagan bhi kehate, jhagramanushya hai maya ka.
> > >
> > > Purabtaraf pakka ghar suraj, per upkar chavanni ka.
> > >
> > > Vajud,makan, ruh, namak bhi, ginte, jamanahaal kamai ka.
> > >
> > > Chardiwari te ke ghose, singh mavesi khadeho jo ki.
> > >
> > > Rajtalluk, Rang gur ka, Rasm purani, saajsafar ho.
> > >
> > > Jilli-jherjo paida hoge, naam hasiyat duniyalege.
> > >
> > > Pehlaghar sara takth gina to, 7va rakne kidharti ho.
> > >
> > > Meaning :
> > >
> > >
> > > * House no. 1 is throne of king and 7th house is platform of
> > > throne.
> > > * Here sun is of grah phal, east side and Pakka ghar of sun.
> > > * It is called as lagan in traditional jyotish, indicating
> > > struggle between man and nature or a spectators of conflict between
> > > soul and illusion.
> > > * Philanthropic but of ¼ strength.
> > > * Significance of Individuality, own made house, soul, salt and
> > > status of income.
> > > * Surrounded by four wall [As seen in diamond shape chart ie 12th
> > > ,2nd ,3rd ,& 4th house].
> > > * Signifies animals who has straight horns.
> > > * Signifies links with government, color is like Gur (country
> > > sugar, brownish yellow),
> > > * Old tradition, things needed in traveling.
> > > * Animals which takes direct birth from womb, (like mammals
> > > category not from egg),
> > > * Signifies name, dignity, status of the native.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A) Inference :Above is clear, the importance of 7th house is said here,
> > > that with the help of 7th house, 1st house will be at stability.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 7va highar khali hove, ulta takth vah 24 ho.
> > >
> > > Saal 24se jitne aage, dusman grah us aatha ho.
> > >
> > > Takkar aisius grah hogi, aage na do chalta ho,
> > >
> > > Meaning :
> > >
> > >
> > > * If 7th house is empty, than from 24yrs throne will be reverse.
> > > * After 24th yrs every time if enemy come in throne than they
> > > will be destroyed by strike that they will not move forward.
> > >
> > > B) Inference : If7H is empty which enemy planets and what will they do
> > > after 24 yrs? Last lineis not clear `aage na do chalta ho' ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Laganagar khud khali hove, kismat saat naaayi ho.
> > >
> > > Kismatuski saatve bethe, ya ghar chaute 10ve ho.
> > >
> > > Mutti keghar charo khali, 9-3-11-5ve ho.
> > >
> > > Yeh gharbhi gar khali hove, 2-6-12-8ve ho.
> > >
> > > Ghar 12hi ghum ke dekhe, uccha, qayam, ya ghar ka jo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * If 1st H is empty than native is deprived of luck from birth,
> > > than
> > > * Look planets of luck in the sequence which is also know as
> > > mutti ke khana , 7th house, or 4th H , 10th house, if all empty,
> > > than
> > > * Look the sequence 9-3-11-5, if these are also empty than
> > > * Look the sequence 2-6-12-8th H, the planet of luck will be that
> > > planet which is exalted, rasi lord, or Qayam.
> > >
> > > C) Inference :Here method is given to find kismat ka grah, the planet
> > > which is most qayam will wake up the fortune of the native as per given
> > > sequence.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kismatka vah malik hoga, baita takth per uskeho.
> > >
> > > Gharpehla jab raj hukumat, saat(7H) vasir hi hota hai.
> > >
> > > Har dose koi dusman hove, saat (nearby) fakirihota hai.
> > >
> > > Uuchneech ghar ke jo dusman hove, vah nahien gharo ladte hai.
> > >
> > > Baakigrah sab jhagra karte, umar se bhi vah marte hai.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * Planet will be lord of fortune who sits in the 1 H,
> > > * 1st H is ruler and 7th H is Minister, if there is enemy in
> > > between than saat fakiri hota hai. Planets does not fight which are
> > > exalted and debilitated in these both house, rest planets fight each
> > > other and dies as per age of planets.
> > >
> > > D) Inference: Planet which is in 1H the ruler and7H the minister.
> > >
> > > Not Clear : enimitybetween both planets in 1H & 7H?
> > >
> > > Or These planets conjuct enemy planets ?
> > >
> > > Than who will lose to fakiri ?
> > >
> > > Here sun andSaturn will not fight in 1 & 7H, rest enemy planets will
> > > fight.
> > >
> > > "umar se bhi marte hai" ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Takthper baita nar grah raja, dusro se vahstree hai.
> > >
> > > 7ve iskiaurat, beti, budh, sukkar do behthihai.
> > >
> > > Jyada ekse ghar pehle mein, nar grah streehoti.
> > >
> > > Do sejyada ghar 7ve mein, stree grah narhoti hai.
> > >
> > > Gintimagar ho raja alhaida, rai cameti hotihai.
> > >
> > > Jahirabesak teen ho baite, ginti char ki hotihai.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * Male planet sit in 1H is king, it is female for second (I think
> > > for 7H).
> > > * 7th H is female for wife it is venus and for daughter it is
> > > mercury.
> > > * If 1H has more than one planets than male planets will have
> > > famine instinct, if 7th house has more two planets, females planets
> > > will have masculer instinct.
> > > * Decision or suggestions will be of majority except king, if
> > > total 3 sits but total count will be four.
> > > *
> > >
> > > E) Inference :needs more clarification.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Akelapehle bahut ho 7ve, grah phal rasi hoti hai.
> > >
> > > Ulatagar ho tewe baite, jaad 7ve ki katti hai.
> > >
> > > Ravi,sani, budh, mangal tewe, kahi bhi iskebaite ho.
> > >
> > > Phalwese hi ghar pehle ki, us tewe meinhote ho.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * If single planet in 1st and many in 7th , it is of grah phal,
> > > but if vice versa than it will cut the roots of 7th H.
> > > * Sun, sani, budh, mangal sits anywhere in horoscope, Results of
> > > first house will be accordingly to these planets.
> > >
> > > F) Inference : more planets in 1H,
> > >
> > > ---------
> > > I have divided the poetry as per mine thinking to understand it better,
> > > many pose are very difficult to understand.
> > >
> > > I hope all will contribute.
> > >
> > > Thankyou
> > > Regards,
> > > Vijay Goel
> > > jaipur
> > > Mob :09214502239.
> > >
> >
>
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