Respected Nirmal ji and members,
LK-52, pg 51,
Akela takth per bahut ho 7 ve Raja Vasiri hota hai (very good position)
ulat magar jab tewe baithe jadd 7 ve ki katti hai
here example is given how jadd 7H is destroyed.
if jupiter, moon, mercury, rahu in 1H and only ketu in 7H.
than till age of mercury 34 (pakka ghar 7H) ketu is destroyed ie son will not take birth, and if till age 48 (ketu's age) second son takes birth than mercury is destroyed ie daughter will face lots of difficulties.
Look 7H is destroyed where wife and daughter both luck is present.
"7ve iski aurat, beti, budh, sukkar do baithee hai"
[ketu is friend to venus also].
I think concept is very clear in the book.
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar" <nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Vijay Ji,
> Regarding Your query:
> There are simple rules of lal kitab which apply here. Rule says if the
> planet(b) being aspected is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, then
> b will not allow a to transfer the effect of a to the house in which b
> is posited. 'b' will prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even
> in this process 'b' may get destroyed.// Please again elaborate it how
> 'b' will take its effect on its own ? kindly use some example to explain
> better.
> I would have to skip this book. Your answer lies in 1952 book Page
> 57(Lagan ka ghar....) where the statement is given more clearly with
> example.
> Regards
> Nirmal
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "vijay.goel" goyalvj@ wrote:
> >
> > Respected Nirmal ji, I assume that all have this book, so mistakes
> here
> > does not matter much, but it would have been helpful if you wrote the
> > english meaning in the brackets.
> > ///====================================================== My
> > understanding about these lines are: There are simple rules of lal
> > kitab which apply here. Rule says if the planet(b) being aspected is
> > the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, then b will not allow a to
> > transfer the effect of a to the house in which b is posited. 'b' will
> > prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in this process 'b'
> may
> > get destroyed.// Please again elaborate it how 'b' will take its
> > effect on its own ? kindly use some example to explain better.
> > ///Regarding "Umar se bhi marte hain"/// how age has been used here ?
> > ///Let me illustrate the lines word by word oonch (exalted-Sooraj(1),
> > Saturn(7)) neech(Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),Ghar ke(Mangal(1),
> > Shukkar(7), Budh(7) jo giney hain, .......... Baaqi grah ( Remaining
> > Planets are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon) sab jhagda karte..... When
> ever
> > there are more than two planets having the remaining planets amongst
> > them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then this
> > condition will prevail./// Nicely explained, thankyou :) //When we
> > study the remaining chapters the concept will become more clear.//
> > Right, still we came have a frog jump over chapters just for memory
> and
> > initial understanding and detailing can be done when we will approach
> to
> > that chapter sequentially. Thankyou for such a nice explanation.
> > Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com,
> > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj wrote: > > Dear Vijay Ji, > I have seen that
> > there are many mistakes in the lines.this may be due to the > english
> > transcription. The words in square brackets are correct. So you >
> > correct the words the meaning will become more clear. Further the
> prose
> > > portion in page 12 after these Chhandas make it easier to
> understand.
> > > " > > Laganagar khud khali hove, kismat saat [sath] naaayi ho. >
> >
> > Kismat uski saatve bethe [baithee], ya ghar chaute [chauthe] 10ve ho.
> >
> > > Mutti ke ghar charo khali, 9-3-11-5ve ho. > > Yeh ghar bhi gar
> khali
> > hove, 2-6-12-8ve ho. > > Ghar 12 hi ghum ke dekhe, uccha, qayam, ya
> > ghar ka jo. > > Kismatka vah malik hoga, baita takth per uskeho. >
> >
> > Gharpehla jab raj hukumat, saat(7H) vasir hi hota hai. > > Har dose
> koi
> > dusman hove, saat [saath] fakirihota hai. > > Uuch neech ghar ke jo
> > dusman[giney] hai vah nahi en [in] gharo ladte hai. > > Baaki grah
> sab
> > jhagra karte, umar se bhi vah marte hai. > > You asked ablot point
> D.
> > I reproduce your lines as: > >
> > =========================================================== > > "1st
> H
> > is ruler and 7th H is Minister, if there is enemy in between than >
> saat
> > fakiri hota hai. Planets does not fight which are exalted and >
> > debilitated in these both house, rest planets fight each other and
> dies
> > as > per age of planets." > > D) Inference: Planet which is in 1H
> the
> > ruler and7H the minister. > > Not Clear : enimitybetween both planets
> > in 1H 7H? > > Or These planets conjuct enemy planets ? > > Than
> who
> > will lose to fakiri ? > > Here sun andSaturn will not fight in 1
> 7H,
> > rest enemy planets will fight. > > "umar se bhi marte hai" ? >
> > ====================================================== > My
> > understanding about these lines are: > > There are simple rules of
> lal
> > kitab which apply here. > Rule says > *if the planet(b) being
> aspected
> > is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, > then b will not allow a to
> > transfer the effect of a to the house in which b > is posited. 'b'
> will
> > prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in > this process 'b'
> > may get destroyed. So if planets in 1st and 7th are enemy > then the
> war
> > between the two will damage the effect of both the planet. * >
> Regarding
> > "Umar se bhi marte hain" > Let me illustrate the lines word by word >
> > *oonch* (exalted-Sooraj(1), Saturn(7)) *neech* >
> > (Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),*Ghar ke*(Mangal(1), Shukkar(7),
> > Budh(7) *jo > giney hain*, .......... > Baaqi grah ( *Remaining
> Planets
> > are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon*) sab jhagda > karte..... > When ever
> > there are more than two planets having the remaining planets > amongst
> > them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then >
> this
> > condition will prevail. > When we study the remaining chapters the
> > concept will become more clear. > Regards > Nirmal > > > > > On
> Thu,
> > Oct 28, 2010 at 9:45 AM, vijay.goel wrote: > > > > > > > Respected
> > Nirmalji, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > Thanks for the correction.
> >
> > > > > It will be very helpful, if you explain the point no. 'D'. > > >
> >
> > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > >
> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Ji, > > > Accept my compliments for this
> > comprehensive teeka on Pakka Ghar 1. > > Please > > > make a
> correction
> > in your book in following line > > > > > aage na do chalta ho, > > >
> The
> > word is actually 'vo' not 'do'. Now meanings of line will look clear.
> >
> > > > > > > Regards > > > Nirmal > > > > > > > >
> >
>
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