Thursday, October 28, 2010

[astrostudents] Re: Pakka Ghar no.1, LK-42 page 11-12, part 1

 

Respected Nirmal ji, I assume that all have this book, so mistakes here does not matter much, but it would have been helpful if you wrote the english meaning in the brackets. ///====================================================== My understanding about these lines are: There are simple rules of lal kitab which apply here. Rule says if the planet(b) being aspected is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, then b will not allow a to transfer the effect of a to the house in which b is posited. 'b' will prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in this process 'b' may get destroyed.// Please again elaborate it how 'b' will take its effect on its own ? kindly use some example to explain better. ///Regarding "Umar se bhi marte hain"/// how age has been used here ? ///Let me illustrate the lines word by word oonch (exalted-Sooraj(1), Saturn(7)) neech(Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),Ghar ke(Mangal(1), Shukkar(7), Budh(7) jo giney hain, .......... Baaqi grah ( Remaining Planets are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon) sab jhagda karte..... When ever there are more than two planets having the remaining planets amongst them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then this condition will prevail./// Nicely explained, thankyou :) //When we study the remaining chapters the concept will become more clear.// Right, still we came have a frog jump over chapters just for memory and initial understanding and detailing can be done when we will approach to that chapter sequentially. Thankyou for such a nice explanation. Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj wrote: > > Dear Vijay Ji, > I have seen that there are many mistakes in the lines.this may be due to the > english transcription. The words in square brackets are correct. So you > correct the words the meaning will become more clear. Further the prose > portion in page 12 after these Chhandas make it easier to understand. > " > > Laganagar khud khali hove, kismat saat [sath] naaayi ho. > > Kismat uski saatve bethe [baithee], ya ghar chaute [chauthe] 10ve ho. > > Mutti ke ghar charo khali, 9-3-11-5ve ho. > > Yeh ghar bhi gar khali hove, 2-6-12-8ve ho. > > Ghar 12 hi ghum ke dekhe, uccha, qayam, ya ghar ka jo. > > Kismatka vah malik hoga, baita takth per uskeho. > > Gharpehla jab raj hukumat, saat(7H) vasir hi hota hai. > > Har dose koi dusman hove, saat [saath] fakirihota hai. > > Uuch neech ghar ke jo dusman[giney] hai vah nahi en [in] gharo ladte hai. > > Baaki grah sab jhagra karte, umar se bhi vah marte hai. > > You asked ablot point D. I reproduce your lines as: > > =========================================================== > > "1st H is ruler and 7th H is Minister, if there is enemy in between than > saat fakiri hota hai. Planets does not fight which are exalted and > debilitated in these both house, rest planets fight each other and dies as > per age of planets." > > D) Inference: Planet which is in 1H the ruler and7H the minister. > > Not Clear : enimitybetween both planets in 1H 7H? > > Or These planets conjuct enemy planets ? > > Than who will lose to fakiri ? > > Here sun andSaturn will not fight in 1 7H, rest enemy planets will fight. > > "umar se bhi marte hai" ? > ====================================================== > My understanding about these lines are: > > There are simple rules of lal kitab which apply here. > Rule says > *if the planet(b) being aspected is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, > then b will not allow a to transfer the effect of a to the house in which b > is posited. 'b' will prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in > this process 'b' may get destroyed. So if planets in 1st and 7th are enemy > then the war between the two will damage the effect of both the planet. * > Regarding "Umar se bhi marte hain" > Let me illustrate the lines word by word > *oonch* (exalted-Sooraj(1), Saturn(7)) *neech* > (Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),*Ghar ke*(Mangal(1), Shukkar(7), Budh(7) *jo > giney hain*, .......... > Baaqi grah ( *Remaining Planets are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon*) sab jhagda > karte..... > When ever there are more than two planets having the remaining planets > amongst them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then > this condition will prevail. > When we study the remaining chapters the concept will become more clear. > Regards > Nirmal > > > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:45 AM, vijay.goel wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Nirmalji, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > Thanks for the correction. > > > > It will be very helpful, if you explain the point no. 'D'. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Ji, > > > Accept my compliments for this comprehensive teeka on Pakka Ghar 1. > > Please > > > make a correction in your book in following line > > > > > aage na do chalta ho, > > > The word is actually 'vo' not 'do'. Now meanings of line will look clear. > > > > > > Regards > > > Nirmal > > > > > > > >

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