Saturday, October 30, 2010

[astrostudents] Re: Pakka Ghar no.1, LK-42 page 11-12, part 1

 

Small correction

"LK-52, pg 51," it is LK-52, pg 57.

Thankyou

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Nirmal ji and members,
>
> LK-52, pg 51,
>
> Akela takth per bahut ho 7 ve Raja Vasiri hota hai (very good
> position)
>
> ulat magar jab tewe baithe jadd 7 ve ki katti hai
>
> here example is given how jadd 7H is destroyed.
> if jupiter, moon, mercury, rahu in 1H and only ketu in 7H.
> than till age of mercury 34 (pakka ghar 7H) ketu is destroyed ie son
> will not take birth, and if till age 48 (ketu's age) second son takes
> birth than mercury is destroyed ie daughter will face lots of
> difficulties.
>
> Look 7H is destroyed where wife and daughter both luck is present.
> "7ve iski aurat, beti, budh, sukkar do baithee hai"
> [ketu is friend to venus also].
> I think concept is very clear in the book.
>
> Regards,
> Vijay Goel
> Jaipur.
>
> --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar" <nirbhar@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Vijay Ji,
> > Regarding Your query:
> > There are simple rules of lal kitab which apply here. Rule says if the
> > planet(b) being aspected is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it,
> then
> > b will not allow a to transfer the effect of a to the house in which
> b
> > is posited. 'b' will prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even
> > in this process 'b' may get destroyed.// Please again elaborate it how
> > 'b' will take its effect on its own ? kindly use some example to
> explain
> > better.
> > I would have to skip this book. Your answer lies in 1952 book Page
> > 57(Lagan ka ghar....) where the statement is given more clearly with
> > example.
> > Regards
> > Nirmal
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "vijay.goel" goyalvj@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Respected Nirmal ji, I assume that all have this book, so mistakes
> > here
> > > does not matter much, but it would have been helpful if you wrote
> the
> > > english meaning in the brackets.
> > > ///====================================================== My
> > > understanding about these lines are: There are simple rules of lal
> > > kitab which apply here. Rule says if the planet(b) being aspected
> is
> > > the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, then b will not allow a to
> > > transfer the effect of a to the house in which b is posited. 'b'
> will
> > > prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in this process 'b'
> > may
> > > get destroyed.// Please again elaborate it how 'b' will take its
> > > effect on its own ? kindly use some example to explain better.
> > > ///Regarding "Umar se bhi marte hain"/// how age has been used here
> ?
> > > ///Let me illustrate the lines word by word oonch
> (exalted-Sooraj(1),
> > > Saturn(7)) neech(Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),Ghar ke(Mangal(1),
> > > Shukkar(7), Budh(7) jo giney hain, .......... Baaqi grah ( Remaining
> > > Planets are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon) sab jhagda karte..... When
> > ever
> > > there are more than two planets having the remaining planets amongst
> > > them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then
> this
> > > condition will prevail./// Nicely explained, thankyou :) //When we
> > > study the remaining chapters the concept will become more clear.//
> > > Right, still we came have a frog jump over chapters just for memory
> > and
> > > initial understanding and detailing can be done when we will
> approach
> > to
> > > that chapter sequentially. Thankyou for such a nice explanation.
> > > Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj wrote: > > Dear Vijay Ji, > I have seen that
> > > there are many mistakes in the lines.this may be due to the >
> english
> > > transcription. The words in square brackets are correct. So you >
> > > correct the words the meaning will become more clear. Further the
> > prose
> > > > portion in page 12 after these Chhandas make it easier to
> > understand.
> > > > " > > Laganagar khud khali hove, kismat saat [sath] naaayi ho. >
> > >
> > > Kismat uski saatve bethe [baithee], ya ghar chaute [chauthe] 10ve
> ho.
> > >
> > > > Mutti ke ghar charo khali, 9-3-11-5ve ho. > > Yeh ghar bhi gar
> > khali
> > > hove, 2-6-12-8ve ho. > > Ghar 12 hi ghum ke dekhe, uccha, qayam, ya
> > > ghar ka jo. > > Kismatka vah malik hoga, baita takth per uskeho. >
> > >
> > > Gharpehla jab raj hukumat, saat(7H) vasir hi hota hai. > > Har dose
> > koi
> > > dusman hove, saat [saath] fakirihota hai. > > Uuch neech ghar ke
> jo
> > > dusman[giney] hai vah nahi en [in] gharo ladte hai. > > Baaki grah
> > sab
> > > jhagra karte, umar se bhi vah marte hai. > > You asked ablot point
> > D.
> > > I reproduce your lines as: > >
> > > =========================================================== > >
> "1st
> > H
> > > is ruler and 7th H is Minister, if there is enemy in between than >
> > saat
> > > fakiri hota hai. Planets does not fight which are exalted and >
> > > debilitated in these both house, rest planets fight each other and
> > dies
> > > as > per age of planets." > > D) Inference: Planet which is in 1H
> > the
> > > ruler and7H the minister. > > Not Clear : enimitybetween both
> planets
> > > in 1H 7H? > > Or These planets conjuct enemy planets ? > > Than
> > who
> > > will lose to fakiri ? > > Here sun andSaturn will not fight in 1
> > 7H,
> > > rest enemy planets will fight. > > "umar se bhi marte hai" ? >
> > > ====================================================== > My
> > > understanding about these lines are: > > There are simple rules of
> > lal
> > > kitab which apply here. > Rule says > *if the planet(b) being
> > aspected
> > > is the enemy of planet(a) that aspect it, > then b will not allow a
> to
> > > transfer the effect of a to the house in which b > is posited. 'b'
> > will
> > > prefer to take the effect of 'a' on its own even in > this process
> 'b'
> > > may get destroyed. So if planets in 1st and 7th are enemy > then the
> > war
> > > between the two will damage the effect of both the planet. * >
> > Regarding
> > > "Umar se bhi marte hain" > Let me illustrate the lines word by word
> >
> > > *oonch* (exalted-Sooraj(1), Saturn(7)) *neech* >
> > > (Debilitated-Shani(1),Sooraj(7)),*Ghar ke*(Mangal(1), Shukkar(7),
> > > Budh(7) *jo > giney hain*, .......... > Baaqi grah ( *Remaining
> > Planets
> > > are Brihaspat, Rahu, Ketu,Moon*) sab jhagda > karte..... > When ever
> > > there are more than two planets having the remaining planets >
> amongst
> > > them in house no 1 and one of the remaining planets in 7th then >
> > this
> > > condition will prevail. > When we study the remaining chapters the
> > > concept will become more clear. > Regards > Nirmal > > > > > On
> > Thu,
> > > Oct 28, 2010 at 9:45 AM, vijay.goel wrote: > > > > > > > Respected
> > > Nirmalji, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > Thanks for the
> correction.
> > >
> > > > > > It will be very helpful, if you explain the point no. 'D'. > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj >
> >
> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Ji, > > > Accept my compliments for
> this
> > > comprehensive teeka on Pakka Ghar 1. > > Please > > > make a
> > correction
> > > in your book in following line > > > > > aage na do chalta ho, > > >
> > The
> > > word is actually 'vo' not 'do'. Now meanings of line will look
> clear.
> > >
> > > > > > > > Regards > > > Nirmal > > > > > > > >
> > >
> >
>

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