Re: [astrostudents] Agenda for Lal Kitab

Respected Kulbir Ji,
Initially  when this group was established, there was a set agenda. Group used to prepare the questionnaire and aspirant can test their knowledge by answering these questions and the experts correct it where ever they feel answers are wrong. The response was lukewarm hence that practice was  abandoned. If this is started then it is indeed a welcome step.
Let us to be first start with preparation of question bank from each page of lalkitab per edition wise. every one try to raise queries as much as he can. These questions shall be put in to the group. I can compile and prepare a combine database.
Next agenda will be to discuss these questions one by one.
I wish other Group members also suggest more in this regard
Best Regards
Nirmal

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Nirmal ji; after going through the replies recieved on the message by mahajan ji, i think your goodself should chart out a course for discussions. i remember in the beginning u started by preparing a questioner and requested the members to test their knowledge but it was not taken seriously by members (including myself) perhaps some took it as it would expose their inadequacy of knowledge; some took it as an ego problem, i know that their was questions like that who is bhardwaj to test our knowledge.

But now i feel that had it continued many of us would have attained somewhat mastery of the subject. we kept on participating in the group without any guidelines totally on our will and fancies but with our half baked knowledge, we ended up making individualo groups of 2 -3 persons and tried to settle personal scores.

i know your nature quite well and the result was that you and pradeep sharmaji preferred to remain mum and gave an open field to all to do whatever they wanted.i remember sharma ji told me that it will not go on forever u will see your folly soon and regret as to what you have done.

prabhakar ji was almost on his way out but i kept him in sometimes by request, sometimes by fighting.

pradeep ji and kondal sahib threw in their towel right in the beginning and the result is that we lost our share of knowledge from one of the greatest in the field of lalkitab vaastu.he was ready to share but got shooed away by our attitude. they didn't lost anything but we did.

mahajan sahib is one of the greatest in terms of practical upayas but he also avoided lest he might also be dragged in some controveries.

it is my sincerest and last request to you, please set forward an agenda, draft a course for discussions,make a list of topics. please bring in your old enthusiasm. we have learnt our lessons. the people i mentioned above and others will agree with me.i will personally ensure it and i am sure of it that none of them will refuse me. it is very good that you have distributed the moderatorship among good people so there is no scope that anybody will fear that his message would be barred or his id banned without any reason.

u may be very busy with your office schedule but this is ur duty also. Sir, please don't let your genuine and honest efforts die a slow death in front of your eyes helplessly. you have a greater responsibility than others.

it is never too late to make amends.

kulbir

 

On 11/7/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@hathway.com> wrote:

Dear Shri Bharadwaj ji and Shri Prabhakarji,

Let me clear my stand on this. I have not named any personality as being
owner of these multiple ids. Neither I know who is the owner and neither
did I make efforts for finding the same. Pt.Bhooshan Priyaji, I do not
know him and have never interacted with him. I just know that he owns a
Lal kitab forum, of whch probably i too may be a member, but have never
visited more than once.

I just know this much as having experienced and being a aggrieved hurt
party, that these multiples ids, did create a lot of trouble in all
jyotish forums with their evil intentions portrayed in every mail,
projected trough the contents of their postings.

( 1) Dharamveer dahiya
(2) Pardeep Kapoor
(3) AmIt sood
(4) Ranbir Tokas
(5) Narendra Juneja
(6) Roopak Rastogi

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj"
<nirbhar@...> wrote:
>
> Respected Prabhakar Ji & Bhaskar Ji,
>
> I missed lot of group activities because of my job requirements.
>
> I had few telephonic chats with Pt.Upadhyaye. He is very learned man.I
know
> he do the practice in the name of Pt. Bhooshan Priya. I doubt that
such a
> learned man can do such types of activities like duplicate identities.
>
> Regarding Bhuvan Vashishta & duplicates Party, they are the mischief
> mongers. Create Hinderance in normal discussions. These are the
'Barsati
> Mendaks" comes out of hibernation occasionally. Let us pray to GOD
that they
> come to right track.
>
> We have already taken steps to curb such activities. Taking part in
> Discussion is allowed only to the members whoc had given their
telephone
> numbers or otherwise known to any one of the moderator.
>
> regards
>
> Nirmal
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Yograj Prabhakar
yr_prabhakar@...wrote:
>
> > Respected Bhaskar ji,
> >
> > I am more hurt than surprised to hear all this, that too from a
> > prominent personality like you. Right from the day one, We were
aware
> > that he is using multiple Ids, but the quantum of these fake Id's
> > really shocked me. In spite of his anti old school (or perhaps anti
> > Punjabi?) stance, I along with many other Astrostudents members
> > continued to regard him as a learned old man serving the great Lal
> > kitab selflessly. I still believe that his contribution over the
> > internet is second to none. But the way he used multiple screen ID's
> > to prove his point is really painful especially for a student like
me.
> >
> > With heavy heart
> > Yograj Prabhakar
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Bhaskar" rajiventerprises@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > For those who are not aware -
> > >
> > > All These ids have wrecked havoc on at least 7-8 Jyotish forums
since
> > > last one year, and have spat venom thrugh these ids, created
> > > differences, abused many, been instrumental in making many good
members
> > > leave the forums, banning many other good astrologers, and
destroying
> > > the peace and divine aura of many a good forums.
> > >
> > > The owner of these ids will certainly be punished by Nature in
time to
> > > come.
> > >
> > > Bhaskar.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "sdrkirti" <sdrkirti@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Respectable kalsi ji
> > > >
> > > > I bet, he will never come forward to attend any such confidence.
Very
> > > > recently, he as Satpaul khurana when challenged, ran away from
ancient
> > > > astrology group and never came back. This guy is burning his
night
> > > > oil to project himself as the only intelligent Lal kitabist in
the
> > > > world nd prove others as big fools by using fake IDs of Trivedi,
> > > > vashishta, Tyagi, Khurana, Raheja, juneja, miglani, Gill and
dozens
> > > > more on the internet. His anti Punjabi feeling is also an open
secret,
> > > > he with his various avtatars wont miss any chance to let the
punjabi
> > > > LK scholars down. for your eyes only I am presenting some of
other
> > > > avatars of "Guru" Bhooahan Priya:
> > > >
> > > > (1)Dharamveer dahiya
> > > > (2)Pardeep Kapoor
> > > > (3)AmIt sood
> > > > (4)Ranbir Tokas
> > > > (5)Narendra Juneja
> > > > (6)Roopak Rastogi
> > > >
> > > > In spite of everything he is still not stopping as it is right
said
> > > > that old habits die hard. His avatars are doing their work of
fooling
> > > > innocent public in full swing. Even today (05/11/2008) he raised
a
> > > > question as respected Gill saheb and answered as guru Vatun ji
(khud
> > > > hi guru khud hi chela) Now expect some mails of Wah-Wahi from
his
> > > > other Avatars in the evening, the same old
routine-bravo!!!!!!!!. What
> > > > a way to prove your point. He declared Kheti-baadi ka sazo saman
> > > > (equipments) as venus- waah ji waah. Agriculrual equipments
mostly
> > > > made of iron belongs to Venus? God bless this "SUPER LITERATE"
scholar
> > > > who always label others as semi-literates.
> > > >
> > > > Have a nice day
> > > > Dr. Kirti Sharma
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com

<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "Shivdev Kalsi"
> > > > shivdev.kalsi@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Respected Members,
> > > > >
> > > > > It is "Aape Guru Chela". mean Me is Guru and Me is Follower.
It is
> > > > amazing,
> > > > > a person who donot know the basic script of the Lalkitab, is
writing
> > > > > treatise on it and telling others about the history of this
book.It
> > > > is like
> > > > > a person like me who donot know Sanskrit and try to bring my
> > > > theories about
> > > > > the Hora shastra and declaring that shastra wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > I Invite Mr. Bhoosan Priya and his Avtars to come in a joint
> > > conference
> > > > > about Lalkitab. and discuss it there in person. He can fixup
the
> > > > venue and I
> > > > > request Prabhakar ji,Nirmal ji, Kondal Ji and others to attend
that
> > > > > conference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:26 PM, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pt.Luxmi Rattan Shukla jee kitna sahi likha ki:-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai,
aur ye
> > > > logon
> > > > > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in
logon
> > > > ka 5
> > > > > > point agenda hai:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > > > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko
bhramit
> > > karna,
> > > > > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > > > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre ki
bat ko
> > > > galat
> > > > > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > > > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur
par
> > > project
> > > > > > karna.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jab yeh log apni koshish mein kamyaab nahi ho rahe theiy tab
in
> > > > logo ne
> > > > > > apna ek group banaya aur usko chalane ke liye naqli naam se
> > > > (ids)khud hee
> > > > > > member ban gaye aur khud hee swal jawab dene lag gaye aur
woh bhee
> > > > > > manghadant jiska ki , group jo LAL KITAB ke naam par thaa
aur
> > > > jawab/swal
> > > > > > ka LAL KITAB ke sathh tallouq kum hee hua karta thaa,
genuine
> > > > members bhee
> > > > > > usko sahi maan baithey aur unko kitna fayda panhuncha ya
nuksan
> > > > iska koi
> > > > > > vivran nahi hai.agar yeh log LAL KITAB ke naam par group na
> > > banatey to
> > > > > > shayaad LAL KITAB ke premi inke member nahi bante aur yeh
unko
> > > > gumrah nahi
> > > > > > kar patey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BURAI JAB BHEE BURAI KE ROOP MEIN SAHMNE AYEGI USKO
PEHCHANANA
> > > > ASAAN HOTA
> > > > > > HAI,ISS LIYE BURAI HAMESHA HEE ACHHAI KA MUKHOUTA AURH KAR
SAHMNE
> > > > AATEE
> > > > > > HAI, JIS SE USKO PEHCHANANA KATHIN HOTA HAI.ISS LIYE *RAVAN
*KO
> > > > BHEE SADHU
> > > > > > KA VESH DHARAN KARNA PADA JIS SE *SITA* JEE BHEE DHOKHA KHA
GAYEE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Issi asool par woh log bhee chal rahe hain, lekin woh log
(ek ya
> > > ek se
> > > > > > zyada)yeh bhul gaye ki akhir mein VIJAY sirf sachai ki hoti
hai.
> > > iski
> > > > > > udharan ek nahi hazaron mil jayengi. iss liye mera unn logo
se
> > > > nimrata sahit
> > > > > > nivedan hai ki woh sachai ka sath dein na ki galat hathon
mein
> > > > apne aap ko
> > > > > > sounpe. apne gyan ka (LAL KITAB ka jitna gyan hai ) sahi
istemal
> > > > kar ke
> > > > > > logo ka aur khud ka bhala karrein.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mahajan
> > > > > > --- In

astrostudents@yahoogroups.com<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>,

> > Luxmi Rattan Shukla
> > > > > > <luxmirattanshukla@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Respected Mudit ji, apne bilkul sahi kaha hai aur main
apse
> > > > poori tarah
> > > > > > se sehmat hoon, ek badi prasiddh kahawat hai ki jab baaj
khamosh
> > > > ho jatey
> > > > > > hain tab totey shor machaney lag jatey hai. Ap sab purane
log pata
> > > > nahi kyon
> > > > > > gehri nidraa min leen ho gaye hain. 2003 se lekar 2005 tak
kya
> > > badhiya
> > > > > > discussion huya karti thi old group mein. Ap, Bhatia jee,
lalkitbi
> > > > jee,
> > > > > > prabhakar jee, kulbeer ji, Iqbal jee, Anshev jee etc. kitni
uttam
> > > > batein
> > > > > > bataya kartey the. Kitni khul kar debate huya karti thi
ek-ek
> > > > point par.
> > > > > > Pata nahi kyon ap sab log chup ho gaye aur doosrey logon ne
darzan
> > > > darzan
> > > > > > nakli naam rakh kar budhu banane ka silsila shuru kar diya.
tabhi
> > > se
> > > > > > standard ki discussion honi band ho gayi hai. Ab to sab log
apni
> > > > apni dafli
> > > > > > aur apna apna raag alap rahe hain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ap sab ke nishkriya hone ke baad inko maiuka mil gaya hai,
aur
> > > > ye logon
> > > > > > mein bhram ki sthiti paida karney mein safal ho rahe hai. in
logon
> > > > ka 5
> > > > > > point agenda hai:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a).Mahan Lal kitab ko ek sadharan pustak sabit karna,
> > > > > > > b) Iski authorship par prashan-cinnh lagakar logon ko
bhramit
> > > karna,
> > > > > > > c).Lal kitab ko vedic jyotish ka hissa sabit karna.
> > > > > > > d).Apne adh-kachey tarkon se apni bat ko sahi aur doosre
ki bat
> > > > ko galat
> > > > > > sabit karna (bhale hi uske liye jo bhi rasta apnana padey).
> > > > > > > e).Apne ap ko param gyani ya sper Roop chand joshi ke taur
par
> > > > project
> > > > > > karna.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apke sahit sabhi purane khiladiyon se anurodh hai ki neend
se
> > > > jagiye aur
> > > > > > jo log is vidya ko prapat karna chahte hain unki sahayta ke
liye
> > > > aage ayiye.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With respect
> > > > > > > Pt. Lumxi Rattan Shukla
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Umesh Sharma mudit982001@ wrote:
> > > > > > > From: Umesh Sharma mudit982001@
> > > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON
> > > SE
> > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > To:

astrostudents@yahoogroups.com<astrostudents%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 4:56 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Members,
> > > > > > > No doubt, you all are right, but think why it was done?
> > > > > > > Answer is very simple, Because of us. We do not
participate in
> > > > group, we
> > > > > > are not much discuss, than what can happened, you all are
seeing.
> > > My
> > > > > > suggation is, if we truely lover of LalKitab and we give
answer to
> > > > those
> > > > > > peoples who misuse of the name of LALKITAB , we all go for
make
> > > > much more
> > > > > > to more participation on various Topics of LALKITAB and
share the
> > > > knowledge.
> > > > > > An arrange of Camp is a very good step in this matter.
> > > > > > > I am sorry if i hurt anybody. Because of little knowledge
of
> > > > English plz
> > > > > > do not go for my errors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Umesh Sharma
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, "jitinsyal82"
> > > > <jitinsyal82@ ...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > well i too have heard similar stories from knowns of pt.
> > > > ashant, that
> > > > > > > > lal kitab was not written by Pt. roop chand ji but was
"given"
> > > by
> > > > > > > > someone during their service years in army.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > even heard that when pt. ashant met Pt. roop chand ji
himself,
> > > > Pt. ji
> > > > > > > > told ashant that "i did not write LK"(it's pretty
obvious who
> > > said
> > > > > > > > what!!)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > even though i knew all the way in my heart that noone
BUT Pt.
> > > ji
> > > > > > > > could write such a scripture, it wasn't until i met
prabhakar
> > > > ji who
> > > > > > > > assured me that i was right.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i think its ridiculous and shameful on part of such
people to
> > > > mislead
> > > > > > > > students like me, and i think you all would agree that
one
> > > > needs to
> > > > > > > > know the true source of something before following it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it would be great if this group could organise camps
where
> > > > > > > > a.) everyone can communicate and know each other better
> > > > > > > > b.) share knowledge.
> > > > > > > > c.) last but not the least, spread the truth about the
origin
> > > and
> > > > > > > > writer of LK.As a wise man said "always give credit
where
> > > > credit is
> > > > > > > > due" and it's high time that we(world) gave some credit
to Pt.
> > > ji.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AFA misleading/cheating ppl in name of LK goes then i am
> > > > pretty sure
> > > > > > > > that 'what goes around comes around'.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > yours respectfuly
> > > > > > > > jitin syal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, Baljeet Pandher
> > > > > > > > bs_pandher54@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Respected guru Mahajan ji
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am very shocked to read all the messages about fake
> > > > identities by
> > > > > > > > a single person. ITNA BADA DHOKHA ? ITNI BE-IMANI? WO
BHI LAL
> > > > KITAB
> > > > > > > > KE SATH? SHAYAD IN LOGON KO EK BAT MALUM NAHI KI JAB
MAUKA
> > > MILA TO
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB INKA KYA HASHAR KAREGI.this is shameful for
these
> > > > who use
> > > > > > > > fake mail names. people like us who think that these
people
> > > > are very
> > > > > > > > great people and we believe what they said is correct.
This is
> > > > > > > > cheating with people like us and also with astrology. I
cant
> > > > believe
> > > > > > > > that they are cheating people for their own purpuses.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > II was member of their group and found that these
poeple are
> > > > > > > > running a astrology shop for promoting their wrong
ideology
> > > > always.
> > > > > > > > Mujhe tab hi shak pad gaya tha jab ye bar bar "OUR GURU
JI
> > > > SAID THIS,
> > > > > > > > OUR GURU JI SAID THAT" ki ratt lagaya karte the. mujhe
pata
> > > > chal gaya
> > > > > > > > tha ki ye ek hi admi hai jo ki darjan se ziada nam rakh
kar
> > > apni
> > > > > > > > dondi khud hi peet raha tha. AP HI GURU AP HI CHELA -
WAAH KYA
> > > > BAAT
> > > > > > > > HAI. Ye asal mein Ashant ki party ke hain jo sari umar
Pundit
> > > Roop
> > > > > > > > chand ji ke bare mein ulta seedha bolta raha, khud
khurana ban
> > > kar
> > > > > > > > Upadhaye sahib ne bhi ek doosre astrology group mein
bilkul ye
> > > hi
> > > > > > > > kiya hai aur ye sabit karne ki koshish ki hai ki lal
kitab ko
> > > > pundit
> > > > > > > > roop chand joshi ji ne nai likha hai. But he ran away
with his
> > > > tail
> > > > > > > > in his legs when he was challenged. No one came to
contradict
> > > that
> > > > > > > > means what ever is said about fake ids ir absolutely
corrct. I
> > > > also
> > > > > > > > note that what is discussed in this group they will copy
it
> > > and
> > > > > > > > always try to prove it wrong.
> > > > > > > > > Is se ye bat Sabit hoti hai ki ye admi dimagi
divaliyapan ka
> > > bhi
> > > > > > > > shikar hai.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Apka abhari
> > > > > > > > > BALJIT SINGH PANDHER
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Raj hdincp@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > From: Raj hdincp@
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN
CHALANE
> > > > WALON SE
> > > > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Cc: hdincp@
> > > > > > > > > Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:08 AM
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I agree with Mahajan Ji, When I saw the fake email
thread I
> > > was
> > > > > > > > just I am a novice and i live overseas and its very easy
to
> > > > people
> > > > > > > > like us to believe them and get carried away by the fake
group
> > > and
> > > > > > > > people. It was just unbelievable how much time the guy
has got
> > > to
> > > > > > > > mislead people. I think the moderators should call and
check
> > > the
> > > > > > > > people who join this group
> > > > > > > > > anyone who claims to be a learned person should be
bold
> > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > give there number like bhaskar Ji does and is always
helping
> > > > people.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will be happy of any help in further development of
the
> > > > lal Kitab
> > > > > > > > and Vedic astrology.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every
> > > > experience in
> > > > > > > > which you really stop to look fear in the face.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and
then
> > > you
> > > > > > > > destroy yourself.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, vivian tandon <viviantandon@
yahoo.co.
> > > in>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: vivian tandon <viviantandon@ yahoo.co. in>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON
> > > SE
> > > > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:32 PM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Namashkar,Everybody In The Group!!!
> > > > > > > > > I think Mahajanji has suggested the best way to set
things
> > > > on right
> > > > > > > > track.....i endorse to wotever u have said...these camps
will
> > > not
> > > > > > > > only help the human kind but will also help to demask
many
> > > fake
> > > > > > > > people with fake id's...I hope everybody in our group
shud
> > > > appreciate
> > > > > > > > ur suggestion and wud be ready to applicate it in
> > > > practicality. ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: mts3434 mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [astrostudents] MAZMA LAGA KAR DUKAN CHALANE
WALON
> > > SE
> > > > > > > > SAWDHAN
> > > > > > > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 11:04 AM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > RESPECTED MEMBERS,
> > > > > > > > > Jaisa ki sab jante hain iss group mein abhi ek mail
aayee
> > > > thee jo
> > > > > > > > ki RATAN JEE ne bheji thee. mein unki baat se sehmat
hoon ki
> > > > hum logo
> > > > > > > > ko aise logo se sawdhan rehne ki zarroot hai jo LAL
KITAB ke
> > > > naam par
> > > > > > > > logo ko bewquf bana rahe hai.
> > > > > > > > > RATAN JEE ne sahi likha hai ki (kisi vajah se mein uss
group
> > > ka
> > > > > > > > naam nahi likh raha) ek hi vayqkati ne kafi saari fake
ids
> > > bana
> > > > > > > > rakhi hain aur khud hee mail bhej kar swal karta hai aur
khud
> > > hee
> > > > > > > > uska jawab de deta hai aur dusri fake ids se uss jawab
ki
> > > > tarif kar
> > > > > > > > deta hai. (aisa mujhe RATTAN JEE ki mail se pata chala
hai )
> > > > > > > > > Mein khud bhee uss group ka member rahan hoon lekin
meri
> > > > kafi saari
> > > > > > > > mail kabhee bhee group mein nahi aayee kyonki unko mera
iss
> > > > tarah se
> > > > > > > > likhna ya unko challange karna ki woh LAL KITAB ke
anusaar
> > > > nahi likh
> > > > > > > > rahe, ya jo upay woh bata rahe hain woh galat hain , woh
galat
> > > kar
> > > > > > > > rahe hai, apne vichar na bataye sirf LAL KITAB ke anusar
chale
> > > to
> > > > > > > > achha hoga , kyonki unka group hi LAL KITAB ke naam par
chal
> > > > raha hai.
> > > > > > > > > Mein yeh bhee janta hoon ki (abb) kafi sari ids se
> > > > (shayad)woh iss
> > > > > > > > group ke bhee member ban gaye honge, kyonki jo bhee
vishay iss
> > > > group
> > > > > > > > mein udhta hai woh yahan se hijack ho kar unke group
mein bhee
> > > > chala
> > > > > > > > jata hai, kya unke pass koi dusre vishay nahi hain ya
fir unki
> > > > > > > > dukandari ya mazmebazi mein dum nahi raha . Lekin fir
bhee ek
> > > baat
> > > > > > > > hoti hai ki mazmebaz zyada der tak (ya door tak)nahi
chal
> > > sakte
> > > > > > > > kyonki sachai akhir mein logo ke sahmne aa hee jati hai
aur
> > > > hamesha
> > > > > > > > se hee sachai jeet hoti aayee hai.
> > > > > > > > > Uss group walo ne meri mail rok kar kya prapat kiya
yeh tp
> > > wohi
> > > > > > > > jane, ho sakta thaa ki mein hee galat raha hoonga, fir
bhee
> > > > unko yeh
> > > > > > > > chahiye thaa ki meri mail group mein dikhate aur uss par
> > > > debate karte
> > > > > > > > ki mein galat hoon. Mein sorry kehta aur sharminda bhee
hota.
> > > Mere
> > > > > > > > baar baar yeh likhne par ki woh apne vichar na pragat
karein
> > > balki
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB ke anusar chale to shayad unka aur dusre kafi
logo
> > > > ka bhala
> > > > > > > > hoga.MAZME KA EK ASOOL HOTA HAI KI MAZME MEIN SE (JO
MAZMEWALE
> > > KA
> > > > > > > > APNA HEE PARTNER/S )KOI EK SWAL KARTA HAI MAZME WALA
JAWAB
> > > > DETA HAI
> > > > > > > > USKE APNE BANDE/PARTNERS JO MAZME KA HEE HISSA BAN KHADE
HOTE
> > > HAIN
> > > > > > > > TAALI BAJATE HAIN.Dekha dekhi genral public bhee taali
bajati
> > > > > > > > hai.Aisa hee kuchh uss group mein chal raha hai.jo unki
haan
> > > mein
> > > > > > > > haan nahi milata uska kya karna hai , mazma
> > > > > > > > > chalane wale khoob jante hain usko uss mazme ki bheed
se
> > > > kisi bhee
> > > > > > > > tarike se nikal diya jata hai.
> > > > > > > > > RESULT:- USS GROUP NE MUJHE BAN KAR DIYA
> > > > > > > > > Abb agar uss group ka koi bhee member ya woh khud yeh
mail
> > > > dekhe to
> > > > > > > > mein apni taraf se hee yeh sujhao (suggestion) deta hoon
ki
> > > > kyon na
> > > > > > > > hum log ek manch par ikathe hokar LAL KITAB ke anusar
logo ka
> > > > bhala
> > > > > > > > karein. Har ek do (1-2) mahine baad jyotish ka free camp
> > > > lagaya kare
> > > > > > > > aur logo ki samasayon ka hal karein jis se logo ka bhee
bhala
> > > hoga
> > > > > > > > aur kaun kitne pani mein yeh bhee pata chal jayega.pehla
camp
> > > unke
> > > > > > > > hee shehar laga diya jaye. fir dusre kisi shehar mein
lagaya
> > > > > > > > jaye.kharcha sab mil-baant kar kar lein.
> > > > > > > > > Videsh mein rehne wale jo iss group ke members hain
kripya
> > > > woh bhee
> > > > > > > > jab India aye to unko bhee iss camp mein invite kiya
jaye
> > > > (unke India
> > > > > > > > aane ke samay par aisa camp avash lagaya jaye)agar ho
sake to
> > > apna
> > > > > > > > progrram pehle bata dein.
> > > > > > > > > YEH TO AISE HO GAYA JAISE JYOTISH KA CAMP LAG HEE
GAYA. SAB
> > > > MEMBERS
> > > > > > > > ISS PAR KRIPYA APNE VICHAR ZAROOR LIKHE.TAKI YEH PATA
CHALE KI
> > > YEH
> > > > > > > > GROUP ZINDA HAI..AUR ISS GROUP MEIN MAZMEBAZI NAHI
CHALTI. YEH
> > > > GROUP
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB AUR SACHAI KA DAAMAN NAHI CHHODEGA.
> > > > > > > > > Bhagwan sabka bhala karein aur hum sab ko sadhbudhi de
ki
> > > > hum sahi
> > > > > > > > raste par chale.logo ka jahan tak ho sake bhala karein
kyonki
> > > yehi
> > > > > > > > LAL KITAB ka asool hai.
> > > > > > > > > Likhne ya kehne mein koi galti ho ya kisi ko meri
baton se
> > > thes
> > > > > > > > pahunchi ho to kshuma chahta hoon.kyonki jo mere ko sahi
laga
> > > woh
> > > > > > > > zazbato mein beh kar likh diya abb kya pachhtana.AAP SAB
SE
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> > > > > > > > CHAHTA HOON KUCHH KADWA BHEE LIKHA HOGA.
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