Astrostudents-Group Discussions: Re: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Vivian Jee

&n bsp; DATED 13-8-2008

dear members,
pranaam to all of my seniors and hello to colleagues,hope all r fine and enjoing .i read yograjjis reply to vivian regarding the piercing of nosefor 96 hours and i fully agree with yograjji on this topic that in the book it is mentioned only the same thing which yograjji has written .till date i have never read any where and in any of version that one should not go out or u have to hide it from others or one have to be away from sun light suraj to budh ko theek rakhnae mein madad deta hai or chandarma ka bhi dost hai so dont be mistaken on this part that u have to stuck into house only after naak chaddan .u r free to move about humne aaj tak kaafi logon ka naak chaddan karvaya hai and got good results 100% u can say but never restricted anybody like this.
thats the only and only reason why we all are insisting everybody to try to read the original version of lal kitab so please for god sake try to read the original versions only .and your first step to have success in the field of lal kitab is to procure a original copy of it and get it translated or do what ever u can do to reach for it understand it and translate it.dont try to get pakki pakayi things .this thing will harm you in the field of learning lal kitab.try to find new things out of it yourself it has got thousands of such formulaes and permutations and combinations that the need is only to unveil them.but most of the people dont use their own brains and try to grab things either by hook or crook.try to go more deep and deep into the book and u ur self will find the difference.ORIGINAL LAL KITAB IN ITSELF IS A LAMPHOUSE AND POWER GENERATOR THAT MERELY BY KEEPING IT WITH YOURSELF YOU FEEL YOURSELF FULLY ENERGISED.

SO I HOPE NOW EVERYBODY WOULD TRY TO GO FOR A GENUINE BOOK AND FELL THE ENERGY ITS A FACT YOU TRY IT AND TELL IN THE FORM THE DIFFERENCE.

THANKS

REGARDS

M S KONDAL

<span style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(128, 0, 0);">M S KONDAL</span>

----- Original Message ----
From: Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@yahoo.com>
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:19:46 AM
Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Vivian Jee

Dear Vivian ji,

I am partially agree with you on the question of period and method of Naak-Chhedan. You are absolutely right that Pundit ji has advised to do it for atleast 96 hours. and It is very much mentioned in Lal Kitab-1952, page 545, line 11 to 13, (Budh Khana no. 2 Mandee Haalat):

"Naak-Chhedan (4-5 din tak kam az kam 96 ghantey Surakh qayam rakhna) magadgaar hoga. 12 se 16 saala se pehle pehle zyadah faydemand magar baad mein bhi naak-chhedan madadgar hoga).".

But your statement that one should remain indoor, nobody should see the Naak-Chhedan and it should not be exposed to the direct Sunlight is just beyond my understanding. What are the basis of this notion? Have you read it somewhere or was it recommended/ told by someone to you? Kindly clarify.

Sincerely
Yograj Prabhakar

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:

From: mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 10:22 AM

Vivian Ji,
Namaskar,
sorry, mein kuchh kadwa bol gaya tha.

Hua kuchh iss tarah ki jo mein kehna chahta thaa woh prabhakar sahib
ne keh diya hai, sirf kehne/samjhane ka tarika alag ho gaya. mein
kuchh kadwe tarike se keh gaya woh pyar se samjha gaye.aap kyonki
bahut aage ki soch rahe theiy, wahan tak ki mein to soch hi nahi
sakta.agar mein prabhakar ji ne jo kuchh likha thaa woh padh leta to
shayad mein apko itna kadwa nahi likhta. again & again SORRY.
abb itna dhayan rakhiye ki Budh khana no 2 wale ko budh ki ashiyan
sthapit nahi karni chahiye.

because naak chhedan
> karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person shud
> stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
minimum
> 96 hrs.....
Kripya yeh bataye ki 96 hours ka upay jaisa ki aapne likha hai yeh
kahan likha hai.kyonki zyadatar jab bhee Budh manda asar de raha ho
Nak Chhedan karwaya hi jata hai(96 days) lekin agar kahin yeh likha
hai ki 96 hours ghar mein hi rahe ya kisi ko nak chhedan dikhai na
de, sun light na lage aadi aadi.
Dhanyawad.
Mahajan

--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
<viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
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> Mahajan ji, Namashkar !!!
> I am just a beginner in lal Kitab and a nursery class student in
front of u lekin fir bhi aap kripa karÂ Lal Kitab(1952) Ka Page
Number 543(budh2 nek haalat) zaroor padiyega its clearly mentioned---
------''Lambi va poshda aur baahar ko ubhri hui peshaani ka maalik
hogga.jismain jahanat tatha saath aayiÂ hui kismat ka nek asar
hogga....... ......... ......... ......... '' Please sir do correct me
if i m wrong.....
> Â
> thanx------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------
-------vivian
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> --- On Tue, 12/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@... > wrote:
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> From: mts3434 <mts3434@... >
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 12:48 PM
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> Vivian Ji,
> mein abhi itna vidhwan nahi hua ki matha(forehead) dekh kar bata
saku
> ki budh khana no 2 mein hai.Aapke baare mein mein kuchh keh nahi
> sakta.
> Mahajan
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
> <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Mahajan ji first of all i m highly thankful to u to start the
> topic again and kept this group alive......well about budh number
2
> wot i percieve is dat; aise insaan ka father ki age ki koi
guarantee
> ni hotti but tab tak jab tak chander se koi madad na mil rahi ho
if
> moon of such a person is in 8th or twelfth house father of such a
> person may survive.Moreover tewe ki darushti ke liye kuchh
questions
> we can ask like aise insaan ki mastishk(head) ubhraa hua
(protruding)
> hotta hai........and such a person is very intelligent but at the
> same timeÃ‚Â somewhat selfish also.
> > Budh ki cheeze sister,bua,daughter etc.r notÃ‚Â gud for the
person
> and they give the result to that of a poison.....mande budh ki
pehli
> nishaaniÃ‚Â ghar main sheep, parrot kharidke ya vaise hi lekke
rakha
> jaye ya fir aise saksh ki saali ghar main aake rehne lag jaye tto
wo
> uskki wife ko (shukar) ko barbaad kardeggi.... .ghar main shukar
ki
> cheeze barbaad honne lag jaengi... mande budh ke nivaaran ka best
> upay i think is naak chhedan( nose prick),this remedy looks to be
> very simple but its actually very tough. because naak chhedan
> karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person shud
> stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
minimum
> 96 hrs.......This is some thing i know for budh number 2 kuchh
> baatein tto mahajan ji ne pehle hi saaf kardi hain.....kuchh par
> hamaare senior members ki roshni ki bi zarurat
> hai......... ......... kiyunki we r just students in this field
> > and many things i have written may be wrong....... ........so
> corrections are solicited from our senior members..... .parbhakar
ji
> please throw some more light on this
> topic....... ......... ......... VIVIAN...
> > Ã‚Â
> > Ã‚Â
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> > --- On Mon, 11/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:
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> > From: mts3434 <mts3434@ >
> > Subject: [astrostudents] BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, 11 August, 2008, 11:24 AM
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> > Members
> > aap sab ko yeh jankar harani hog1 ki 1975-76 ke karib jab
lalkitab
> > market mein ayee(hindi photostat) tab jitne bhee log jo jyotish
ki
> > jankari rakhte theiy, unn logo ne budh khana no 2 walo ke ghar
se
> > niwar ke goley niklwa diye. tab aam gharo mein niwar hoti thee.
> abb
> > niwar nahi hai to yeh jyotish log kya karein.abb wool ke goley
> > niklwa rahe hain.budh khana no 2 wale ke liye achha yehi hai ki
> ghar
> > mein kisi bhee kisam ka suti (cotton) dhaga gole ki shakal mein
na
> > pada ho.
> > jaise khana no 1 ke liye daant 32 chahiye yahan bhee wohi halat
> hai
> > (vaise har khana mein budh ka achha phal tabi milega jab daant
32
> ho)
> > Agar brahspati khana no 6ya7 mein ho to aisa jatak pita (father)
> ke
> > liye bhari hoga, matlab ki uske pita ki maut ya mritu tulya
kashat
> > jab budh khana no 2 wale ki umar 16 se 22 ki hogi. zyadatar aise
> > jatak ke pita ki maut 16 se 19 saal ke beech hi ho jati hai agar
> > bach jaye to bhee bimar ya murda ke brabar hi hoga.
> > Aise jatak ke ladkiya zyada hogi,lekin lawald nahi hoga matlab
ki
> > ladka avash hoga . ladke ke liye brahspati aur chander ki
sahayta
> > lee ja sakti hai.
> > Budh asal mein kya hai? brahspati+rahu= BUDH
> > abb aap rahu khana no 2 ka upay Chandi ki thos (solid)goli jatak
> > apne paas rakh sakte hain.
> > aur bhee bahut kuchh kiya ja sakta filhal itna hi kafi hai, agar
> aap
> > ke paas Budh khana no 2 ke baare mein kuchh alag hi jankari hai
ti
> > likhe.
> >
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