Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Prabhakar Ji, Kondal Ji,

Members,
Namaskar,
shukar hai bhagwan ka ki kuchh members ki neend to khuli, kisi
vishay par hulchal to huee.mein apna experince share karna chahta
hoon ki jab bhee varshphal mein budh khana no 2 mein aye, to usse
kya nahi karna chahiye. jis saal budh khana no 2 mein aaye uss saal
jatak ko musical instruments nahi lene chahiye. mere paas agar koi
aisa shaksh jiska budh khana no 2 mein aya hoo(varshphal ke anusar)
to uss saal mein usko saali se bhee dur rehne ko kehta hoon,
T.V.,C.D. player,Stereo,Baja vagairah ka kum se kum prayog kare aur
naya/purana na le. jab ki yeh zyadatar electronics goods hee hain.
fir bhee inka parhez rakhna hee achha rahega.aisa mera manana hai.

MAhajan
--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, maneshwar singh kondal
<mskondal@...> wrote:
>
>

DATED 13-8-2008
>
> dear members,
> pranaam to all of my seniors
and hello to colleagues,hope all r fine and enjoing .i read
yograjjis reply to vivian regarding the piercing of nosefor 96 hours
and i fully agree with yograjji on this topic that in the book it is
mentioned only the same thing which yograjji has written .till date
i have never read any where and in any of version that one should
not go out or u have to hide it from others or one have to be away
from sun light suraj to budh ko theek rakhnae mein madad deta hai or
chandarma ka bhi dost hai so dont be mistaken on this part that u
have to stuck into house only after naak chaddan .u r free to move
about humne aaj tak kaafi logon ka naak chaddan karvaya hai and got
good results 100% u can say but never restricted anybody like this.
> thats the only and only reason why we all are insisting everybody
to try to read the original version of lal kitab so please for god
sake try to read the original versions only .and your first step to
have success in the field of lal kitab is to procure a original copy
of it and get it translated or do what ever u can do to reach for it
understand it and translate it.dont try to get pakki pakayi
things .this thing will harm you in the field of learning lal
kitab.try to find new things out of it yourself it has got
thousands of such formulaes and permutations and combinations that
the need is only to unveil them.but most of the people dont use
their own brains and try to grab things either by hook or crook.try
to go more deep and deep into the book and u ur self will find the
difference.ORIGINAL LAL KITAB IN ITSELF IS A LAMPHOUSE AND POWER
GENERATOR THAT MERELY BY KEEPING IT WITH YOURSELF YOU FEEL YOURSELF
FULLY ENERGISED.
>
> SO I HOPE NOW EVERYBODY WOULD TRY TO GO FOR A GENUINE BOOK AND
FELL THE ENERGY ITS A FACT YOU TRY IT AND TELL IN THE FORM THE
DIFFERENCE.
>
>
> THANKS
>
> REGARDS
>
> M S KONDAL
>
> <span style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(128, 0, 0);">M S
KONDAL</span>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@...>
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:19:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Vivian Jee
>
>
> Dear Vivian ji,
>
> I am partially agree with you on the question of period and method
of Naak-Chhedan. You are absolutely right that Pundit ji has advised
to do it for atleast 96 hours. and It is very much mentioned in Lal
Kitab-1952, page 545, line 11 to 13, (Budh Khana no. 2 Mandee
Haalat):
>
> "Naak-Chhedan (4-5 din tak kam az kam 96 ghantey Surakh qayam
rakhna) magadgaar hoga. 12 se 16 saala se pehle pehle zyadah
faydemand magar baad mein bhi naak-chhedan madadgar hoga).".
>
> But your statement that one should remain indoor, nobody should
see the Naak-Chhedan and it should not be exposed to the direct
Sunlight is just beyond my understanding. What are the basis of this
notion? Have you read it somewhere or was it recommended/ told by
someone to you? Kindly clarify.
>
> Sincerely
> Yograj Prabhakar
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/13/08, mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
>
> From: mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 10:22 AM
>
>
> Vivian Ji,
> Namaskar,
> sorry, mein kuchh kadwa bol gaya tha.
>
> Hua kuchh iss tarah ki jo mein kehna chahta thaa woh prabhakar
sahib
> ne keh diya hai, sirf kehne/samjhane ka tarika alag ho gaya. mein
> kuchh kadwe tarike se keh gaya woh pyar se samjha gaye.aap kyonki
> bahut aage ki soch rahe theiy, wahan tak ki mein to soch hi nahi
> sakta.agar mein prabhakar ji ne jo kuchh likha thaa woh padh leta
to
> shayad mein apko itna kadwa nahi likhta. again & again SORRY.
> abb itna dhayan rakhiye ki Budh khana no 2 wale ko budh ki ashiyan
> sthapit nahi karni chahiye.
>
> because naak chhedan
> > karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> > main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person
shud
> > stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
> minimum
> > 96 hrs.....
> Kripya yeh bataye ki 96 hours ka upay jaisa ki aapne likha hai yeh
> kahan likha hai.kyonki zyadatar jab bhee Budh manda asar de raha
ho
> Nak Chhedan karwaya hi jata hai(96 days) lekin agar kahin yeh
likha
> hai ki 96 hours ghar mein hi rahe ya kisi ko nak chhedan dikhai na
> de, sun light na lage aadi aadi.
> Dhanyawad.
> Mahajan
>
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
> <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Mahajan ji, Namashkar !!!
> > I am just a beginner in lal Kitab and a nursery class student in
> front of u lekin fir bhi aap kripa karÂ Lal Kitab(1952) Ka Page
> Number 543(budh2 nek haalat) zaroor padiyega its clearly mentioned-
--
> ------''Lambi va poshda aur baahar ko ubhri hui peshaani ka maalik
> hogga.jismain jahanat tatha saath aayiÂ hui kismat ka nek asar
> hogga....... ......... ......... ......... '' Please sir do
correct me
> if i m wrong.....
> > Â
> > thanx------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --
----
> -------vivian
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 12/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:
> >
> > From: mts3434 <mts3434@ >
> > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 12:48 PM
> >
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> >
> > Vivian Ji,
> > mein abhi itna vidhwan nahi hua ki matha(forehead) dekh kar bata
> saku
> > ki budh khana no 2 mein hai.Aapke baare mein mein kuchh keh nahi
> > sakta.
> > Mahajan
> > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
> > <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mahajan ji first of all i m highly thankful to u to start the
> > topic again and kept this group alive......well about budh
number
> 2
> > wot i percieve is dat; aise insaan ka father ki age ki koi
> guarantee
> > ni hotti but tab tak jab tak chander se koi madad na mil rahi ho
> if
> > moon of such a person is in 8th or twelfth house father of such
a
> > person may survive.Moreover tewe ki darushti ke liye kuchh
> questions
> > we can ask like aise insaan ki mastishk(head) ubhraa hua
> (protruding)
> > hotta hai........and such a person is very intelligent but at
the
> > same timeÃ‚Â somewhat selfish also.
> > > Budh ki cheeze sister,bua,daughter etc.r notÃ‚Â gud for the
> person
> > and they give the result to that of a poison.....mande budh ki
> pehli
> > nishaaniÃ‚Â ghar main sheep, parrot kharidke ya vaise hi lekke
> rakha
> > jaye ya fir aise saksh ki saali ghar main aake rehne lag jaye
tto
> wo
> > uskki wife ko (shukar) ko barbaad kardeggi.... .ghar main shukar
> ki
> > cheeze barbaad honne lag jaengi... mande budh ke nivaaran ka
best
> > upay i think is naak chhedan( nose prick),this remedy looks to
be
> > very simple but its actually very tough. because naak chhedan
> > karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> > main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person
shud
> > stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
> minimum
> > 96 hrs.......This is some thing i know for budh number 2 kuchh
> > baatein tto mahajan ji ne pehle hi saaf kardi hain.....kuchh par
> > hamaare senior members ki roshni ki bi zarurat
> > hai......... ......... kiyunki we r just students in this field
> > > and many things i have written may be wrong....... ........so
> > corrections are solicited from our senior
members..... .parbhakar
> ji
> > please throw some more light on this
> > topic....... ......... ......... VIVIAN...
> > > Ã‚Â
> > > Ã‚Â
> > > Ã‚Â
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 11/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: mts3434 <mts3434@ >
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, 11 August, 2008, 11:24 AM
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> > > Members
> > > aap sab ko yeh jankar harani hog1 ki 1975-76 ke karib jab
> lalkitab
> > > market mein ayee(hindi photostat) tab jitne bhee log jo
jyotish
> ki
> > > jankari rakhte theiy, unn logo ne budh khana no 2 walo ke ghar
> se
> > > niwar ke goley niklwa diye. tab aam gharo mein niwar hoti
thee.
> > abb
> > > niwar nahi hai to yeh jyotish log kya karein.abb wool ke goley
> > > niklwa rahe hain.budh khana no 2 wale ke liye achha yehi hai
ki
> > ghar
> > > mein kisi bhee kisam ka suti (cotton) dhaga gole ki shakal
mein
> na
> > > pada ho.
> > > jaise khana no 1 ke liye daant 32 chahiye yahan bhee wohi
halat
> > hai
> > > (vaise har khana mein budh ka achha phal tabi milega jab daant
> 32
> > ho)
> > > Agar brahspati khana no 6ya7 mein ho to aisa jatak pita
(father)
> > ke
> > > liye bhari hoga, matlab ki uske pita ki maut ya mritu tulya
> kashat
> > > jab budh khana no 2 wale ki umar 16 se 22 ki hogi. zyadatar
aise
> > > jatak ke pita ki maut 16 se 19 saal ke beech hi ho jati hai
agar
> > > bach jaye to bhee bimar ya murda ke brabar hi hoga.
> > > Aise jatak ke ladkiya zyada hogi,lekin lawald nahi hoga matlab
> ki
> > > ladka avash hoga . ladke ke liye brahspati aur chander ki
> sahayta
> > > lee ja sakti hai.
> > > Budh asal mein kya hai? brahspati+rahu= BUDH
> > > abb aap rahu khana no 2 ka upay Chandi ki thos (solid)goli
jatak
> > > apne paas rakh sakte hain.
> > > aur bhee bahut kuchh kiya ja sakta filhal itna hi kafi hai,
agar
> > aap
> > > ke paas Budh khana no 2 ke baare mein kuchh alag hi jankari
hai
> ti
> > > likhe.
> > >
> > > MAHAJAN
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